Gun Belonging to Pastor Terry Jones Goes Off Outside Fox 2 Studios

[muriel_volestrangler]

Source: Fox 2

Controversial Pastor Terry Jones made a name for himself after burning a Koran to protest radical Islam. On Thursday, Jones fired bullet into the floorboard of his car.

It happened in the parking lot at Fox 2 just moments after he appeared on live TV with Huel Perkins on the "Let it Rip' show.

Southfield Police say the gun accidentally discharged. No one was hurt. No Charges were filed. Police gave the gun back to Jones and sent him on his way.



Read more: http://www.myfoxdetroit.com/dpp/news/local/gun-belonging-to-pastor-jones-goes-off-outside-fox-2-studios

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DU gun owners - have you accidentally fired bullets in public? Isn't part of being a responsible gun owner knowing how to avoid such a dangerous thing? Is this man just a complete idiot in every single aspect of this life?

[melm00se]

1. AD's

(accidental discharges) are almost always the gun owner/handler's fault.

[whitesoxfan88]

69. Correct

Unfortunately, they have yet to produce the "idiot proof" firearm.

[backscatter712]

82. The correct term is ND - Negligent Discharge.

Terry Jones made a stupid (I know, big shock). Fortunately, nobody was hurt.

[joentokyo]

146. I think that is what his father did.

[backscatter712]

147. That's what she said! n/t

[TheWraith]

134. There's a saying that there's no such thing as an accidental discharge...

...only a negligent discharge.

Granted, sometimes in life accidents do happen--negligence does not necessarily mean GROSS negligence. But in cases like this, where you have a handgun set up for carry going off, usually it involves the person behind it doing something stupid.

[asjr]

2. He thinks he is someone very important. In

reality he is a menace to society on more than one front.

[truthisfreedom]

3. I love it. He's broken the last of his spell. He's shown he's not in control of anything...

probably not even his bowels.

His following will waver. "Let it rip." He ripped one.

[JohnnyRingo]

4. Handling a gun carries with it a huge responsibility.

As it turns out this time, this idiot is responsible only for patching the floor of his car. I assume he didn't break any laws for discharging within a city limit, a local ordinance, but if he'd hit someone, "oops my bad" doesn't cut it in the eye of the law.

His incredible luck in not shooting himself in the leg can be a good argument for atheism, while his evident failure to evolve is a great talking point for the creationists. The man is a walking theological conundrum.

[tclambert]

9. I dunno. Dick Cheney shot a guy in the face and didn't get charged with anything.

Of course, Dick never said, "Oops, my bad." In fact, the victim ended up apologizing to him.

[CottonBear]

15. Wasn't that just incredible? The victim apologized to the Dick?!?! n/t

[Recursion]

28. There's an argument that the guy he shot "broke line"

But still, as the shooter it's your responsibility to make sure the field of fire is clear. (This, incidentally, is why I don't hunt pheasants or doves -- way too dangerous.)

[crim son]

63. Come hunt in Maine and you'll be fine.

We have the "Identify your target" law here but nobody is ever prosecuted for mistakenly killing anybody.

[Recursion]

65. It still just bugs me

Moving groups of people shooting at things that themselves move quickly in three dimensions, and appear unexpectedly, is past my personal safety threshold. I've done ducks from a stationary blind, but that's it for me as far as bird hunting goes.

[JohnnyRingo]

91. Good point

But I suppose a civil lawsuit would have been a slam-dunk if Whitington wanted to go that route. I wonder if there was some sort of quiet under the table settlement, and that represents a kind of responsibility.

[reggie the dog]

106. and Dick had been drinking too

imagine if i had been smoking reefer and accidently shot someone in the face, ole dick cheney is drunk and shoots a judge in the face and the judge apologized, shows you how much power the executive had over the judiciary.

[66 dmhlt]

122. Fred Phelps + Barney Fife = Terry Jones

[yardwork]

67. That cracked me up.

His incredible luck in not shooting himself in the leg can be a good argument for atheism, while his evident failure to evolve is a great talking point for the creationists. The man is a walking theological conundrum.

[wial]

85. handling a gun is inherently irresponsible

-- same order of things as building a nuclear power plant. Potential costs vastly outweigh the benefits and anyone but a fool can see that.

[reggie the dog]

107. no it is not

the vast majority of us who handle guns never have accidents because we are extremely careful.

[kestrel91316]

113. Nonsense. And I'm not even a gun owner.

[Paradoxical]

141. Absolutely false.

[fujiyama]

155. No, handling a gun recklessly and negligently

like this ass did is inherently irresponsible and it's a good excuse to throw the book at him for something that actually directly has the potential of harming people.

I've handled a gun before, and I managed not to shoot myself, my friends, others at the range, or anything else aside from the target (not that I was a perfect shot or anything).

[trud]

5. darn

and not because the gun shot the floorboard.

[Fuddnik]

6. Failed attempt to win a Darwin Award.

Dumbass.

[PuffedMica]

11. It is just a matter of time before Jones does something to remove himself from the gene pool

Overall, Jone's personal actions are not conducive to self-preservation.

[freshwest]

102. Please tell me that he never got close to the gene pool, anymore than his schoolmate Rush.

:rofl:

[era veteran]

7. Stupid #&%$#**$%@@@er

A sign from your God dumbass.

[Plucketeer]

74. There's that line that goes: "Guns don't kill people -

people kill people" But hey..... maybe GUNS are evolving! Maybe guns are flat tired of being made to do things they detest. Maybe when a gun finds itself in the keep of some evil, doltish sort, they're gonna dispatch that person in the interests of gundom's image. The pastor's gun laments: "Sure we're concieved to kill, but not just willy-nilly. We have an image to maintain!"

[Rozlee]

125. You're wrong!! It was the will of Allah!

He got mad 'cause his book got dissed. }(

[era veteran]

131. Point taken

[Thornleylv]

8. Wow

The safety has to be off for that to happen.

[AlbertCat]

54. The safety has to be off for that to happen.

That and totally STUPID laws that enable him and a slew of other dumbfucks to carry loaded concealed weapons around town like it was some episode of "The Big Valley" or something.

[freshwest]

105. Another John Wayne wannabe, living in a reality learned from old movies, devoid of original thought.

[Paradoxical]

143. CCW permit holders are actually statistically very safe individuals.

[Gold Metal Flake]

64. A typical revolver does not have a safety.

Wonder what type of handgun it was.

[gejohnston]

87. they have

internal safeties like transfer bars, a few have firing pin blocks. How ever most single action "cowboy guns" do not, so the practice was and is to have an empty chamber under hammer. To answer your question, an older gun and one he was not smart enough for.

[AsahinaKimi]

10. Are we sure he

Wasn't just trying to shoot a Koran this time? One laying on the floor of his car?

[JohnnyRingo]

94. Now that's funny

Maybe he caught one trying to sneak up on him.
Hahahaha

[freshwest]

103. He figured it because he thought it was something else in his pants.

:rofl:

[cui bono]

12. This headline made me lol. Really. n/t

[Love Bug]

66. Me, too. Makes it sound like the gun went off all by itself.

[polmaven]

13. Using the word "responsible"

in any post about this lunatic is really pushing the envelope, doncha think?

[muriel_volestrangler]

32. Yeah, but I did also say "complete idiot" to make amends

:)

[polmaven]

38. Yes, you certainly did.

:hi:

[Scuba]

14. I've never had an AD, but them I'm not a nutcase. n/t

[dimbear]

16. Up on his scripture, the investigating officer quoted:

"What do ye, loosing the colt?"

(Mark 11:5)

[PADemD]

26. LOL

I had to look up the verse.

[guitar man]

17. Guns don't just "go off"

Somebody squeezed the trigger or the trigger caught on something as it was being moved around, but they don't just fire on their own.

[KurtNYC]

23. In news headlines it happens all the time -- maybe the gun was angry

maybe the gun was feeling neglected and wanted a little attention.

Guns get very jealous, they shoot wives and girlfriends all the time.

[Bandit]

77. Sometimes they do just go off on their own

Have you ever heard of a cook off. Of course that is not something relevent to this case but it involves a gun that has been shot so much the barrel is almost red hot.. Machine guns in particular are most susceptible to this, but occasionally an assault rifle will do the same after much continuous firing.. I have had to twist a few belts to stop the firing myself so I have personal experience on this.

[guitar man]

115. Yes

A cook off is definetly the exception to the rule :D

but in a case like this it's generally careless handling or other idiotic behavior that leads to an "accidental" discharge. In the nearly 40 years that I've been shooting and hanging out with shooters at the range and in the woods etc. I've only seen one instance that I'd call an accidental discharge and it was a mechanical fault from a case of bad gunsmithing. A friend had his 1911 worked on and when he got it back, sometimes the hammer would fall without touching the trigger :o

he took it back to the smith and read him the riot act about it.

[mwb970]

18. Is there no bottom to this?

Any cesspool can be deep, but it has to have a bottom somewhere! The republican cesspool appears to be infinitely deep, in that each new event staking out a new low for right-wing assholes is followed shortly thereafter by another new low, then another and another. Can this downward spiral somehow continue forever?

The macro version of this process is "I thought Nixon was the worst, then I thought no, Reagan is the worst, but a few years later, no little bush is the worst, but then...."

[Stevenmarc]

19. I guess he "Let it Rip'

[craigmatic]

20. Looks like God just gave that idiot a warning shot

[GreenStormCloud]

21. Rev. Jones screwed up. Guns don't go off by themselves. N/T

[kag]

22. yes

[Ikonoklast]

24. An intelligent person would take that incident as a learning experience

and take the proper measures to prevent that from ever happening again.


Bet he doesn't. People that see firearms as some sort of prop are not safe to be around.

[harmonicon]

45. Wouldn't the proper measure be getting rid of the gun?

It amazes me that he's allowed to keep his gun after this, but one would hope he would now realize that he shouldn't have one. Since that's not going to happen, I'm back to being gob-smacked by the fact that this is apparently not against the law.

[Taverner]

25. Why the fuck did he not have the safety on?

[Recursion]

29. Why the hell was he not in Condition 4?

Maybe it's just the Marine in me, but when I move a weapon, it is in condition 4, period.

(Before people say "but what if I need to use it right now": risk assessment, people, risk assessment.)

[Taverner]

51. I had to go look up "Condition Four:

Condition Four: Chamber empty, no magazine, hammer down.
Condition Three: Chamber empty, full magazine in place, hammer down.
Condition Two: A round chambered, full magazine in place, hammer down.
Condition One: A round chambered, full magazine in place, hammer cocked, safety on.
Condition Zero: A round chambered, full magazine in place, hammer cocked, safety off.



Jeff Cooper, the inventor of said conditions, seemed like an interesting guy

[Recursion]

55. Cooper was interesting

Thanks; I keep forgetting that terminology is limited to the Corps.

[Taverner]

58. I think the Secret Service and Embassy Security use those as well

When I was in the Peace Corps, his color code system was taught to us.

"Yellow" state should really be the state of anyone outside the house.

[Recursion]

59. Probably FBI too

Given that they train at Quantico

[Old Codger]

40. Maybe

Might have been a Glock, no safety on them, with a round in the chamber all that is required is a trigger pull, no safety lever/button to move.

[AlbertCat]

60. Why the fuck did he not have the safety on?

Why the fuck is he even carrying it?

Afraid some Muslin's gonna jump outta the bushes, no doubt.

[Taverner]

62. Oh I'm pretty sure he got a lot of death threats

If I were stupid enough to pull of the stunt that he did, I would fear for my life too...

But that's no excuse for mishandling a firearm

I was in a car in Thailand with the cops (don't worry, we were out drinking with them) and one of them dropped their gun out the window. It was a fully auto rifle. Thing flew out, bounced a few times, and fell in a ditch. It was fully loaded, but because there was no round in the chamber, and the safety was on, no accidental misfire.

It did, however, ruin the gun. The muzzle was warped.

[AlbertCat]

76. Oh I'm pretty sure he got a lot of death threats

Just the kind of attention he seeks. What a Saint! Risking martyrdom!... while packin' heat. Religion in America!

[freshwest]

128. He was acting upon his 1st, 2nd and 4th Amendment rights. Next he'll plead the 5th.

[iverglas]

81. "Why the fuck did he not have the safety on?"

Who knows? Who cares?

Is there some magic eye-in-the-sky mechanism at work to ensure that every moron promenading around in public with a pistol in their pants has the safety on?

If not, then there will be morons doing it with the safety off. And doing far, far worse.

But hey, there is no good reason, no matter how many reasons there might be and how good they might look to normal, decent, rational people, to prohibit people from promenading around in public with pistols in their pants.

[Taverner]

124. An (intelligently) armed society is a polite society

[iverglas]

126. burble burble bullshit burble

edited because mistyping "bullshit" looks pretty lame. ;)

[Taverner]

127. Hey - I didn't buy it first time I read it either

But...statistics show, more CCW permits, less crime


Another interesting tidbit, all Death Penalty states have the highest murder rates

[iverglas]

130. I didn't buy Heinlein myself

I took them out of my high school library. I also read Ayn Rand. I'm a grown-up now.


But...statistics show, more CCW permits, less crime

I prefer Samuel Clemens in these circumstances.

A lie can travel halfway around the world while the truth is still tying its shoelaces.

Or perhaps you were actually just stating facts (I couldn't really care less whether that's a fact, personally, but hey, statistics show a murder rate half of the US rate in Canada, where there are no permits at all) and were not suggesting some causal effect ...


Of course, what I said in the first place was good enough, and applies to everything that comes out of the mouths of gun militants:

burble, burble, bullshit, burble.

And that's putting it mildly.

[Taverner]

133. Show me the flaws in the hypothesis and studies, and I'll reconsider

I do change my mind when evidence is presented to the contrary

[Paladin]

135. Try The Headlines In Your Morning Newspaper.

An armed society is not a polite society. An armed society is a paranoid, violent, scared-shitless society, a society which has ceded its powers to its darkest elements. Further proof of this is available in DU's Guns forum on a daily basis.....

[Taverner]

136. Then why do areas where there are a lot of CCW permits, have less crime?

[iverglas]

149. why do things fall up when you drop them?

What's that? I should have to prove the premise of my question before demanding that someone else answer it?

Duh.

How about you explain why areas that have NO permits to promenade around with pistols have HALF (or fewer) the murders that areas of the US with lots of such permits have?

Or you could just stop pretending that there is a causal relationship where there is none.

What a waste of time and space.

[SnowCritter]

27. WWJP?

What Would Jesus Pack?

[Zoeisright]

75. Plus one billion.

Funny how "Christians" forget that Jesus was a pacifist.

[Botany]

30. And this half baked jerkwater of a man wants to ...

.... go and protest outside of the Islamic Center of America in Dearborn, MI just to stir up
more trouble. The man is a walking nightmare.

[krispos42]

31. It is virtually impossible to get an accidental discharge due to mechanical failure anymore

With any gun made in the past couple of decades.

Glock designed his gun to go off every time the trigger was pulled, but ONLY when the trigger was pulled, and his success worldwide has inspired similar designs by every gun maker. Glocks are dropped from 30-foot heights onto steel plates repeatedly, and they never go off accidentally.


Nowadays, if the gun goes off accidentally, SOMETHING pulled the trigger. It may have been a misplaced finger but it's still operator error.

[Recursion]

33. If it's a cheap-ass revolver

And the hammer gets jarred right, say by a doofus trying to pull it out of his sock and catching it on his pants hem...

[krispos42]

41. Maybe, but I think most manufacturers have drop-resistant safeties nowadays

transfer-bar safeties or hammer-block safeties.


You'd have to work at it! :-)

[Recursion]

52. Yeah, I had to really stretch to come up with a scenario (nt)

[L0oniX]

70. +1 ...only a cheap chinese pos would go off from being dropped.

[geckosfeet]

34. He is a classic moran - of the highest order.

People who 'accidentally discharge' firearms are to be avoided and shunned.

[Thor_MN]

35. Are we certain that his accidental discharge to the floorboards was of the lead variety

This guy is a waste of oxygen. I've understood how anyone could rationalize their hate of others as love for gawd. How far does a society let people go before recognizing and acting on the negative aspects of destructive behavior hiding behind organized delusion?

[KansDem]

36. "Shootout at the FOX Autocorral"

I see a possible movie in the making.

Cue Frankie Lane!

[naaman fletcher]

37. i'm a gun owner

and have never accidentally discharged a weapon. It's pretty straight-forward: if you pull the trigger it will fire, so don't even put your finger on the trigger unless you intend for it to fire.

Of course, some guns have manual safeties so that if you pull the trigger it does not fire, but in the opinion of many, including myself, manual safeties are actually un-safe because the negate the basic rule "if you pull the trigger it will fire".

[Botany]

39. safety tip # 2

never keep a round in the chamber unless you mean you mean to fire that round or
shotgun shell ..... What the hell is this clown doing rolling around w/ a live round
in the chamber of his pistol?

[L0oniX]

68. You and my CWP instructor disagree.

[barbtries]

42. but you know everybody

should have a gun :sarcasm:

don't bother. i don't plan on reading the rest of the thread.

[petronius]

78. It's perfectly obvious that not everyone should have a gun

But it's equally obvious that dipshits like Jones don't mean that everyone should not have a gun...

[cbdo2007]

43. any accidental gun disharged should be a misdemeanor for Reckless Endangerment

And take away their gun for a year.

[izquierdista]

44. I'm not going to call him 'dumbass' or 'moron'.

I'll save that for the people that listen to his spiritual advice and believe in what he has to say. :evilgrin:

[Loge23]

46. This won't end well...

As noted already, this guy is a classic buffoon. However, let's say he's a malignant buffoon as opposed to the street variety benign type we usually see.
This guy already has blood on his hands - what's next??

[rbixby]

47. But if God was protecting him.....

why would he need a gun in the first place? His enemies would just be smited (smitten? smotten?) by righteous fire, right?

[AlbertCat]

61. smited (smitten? smotten?)

smitten....


like kitten!

[haydukelives]

48. answers to your questions

No, Yes, and Yes

[Turbineguy]

49. I would have him his gun back too

in the hope he'd accidentally shoot himself.

[Historic NY]

50. "Pastor goes off half-cocked".

[bowens43]

53. Yet another argument in the long line of arguments

that support very strict regulation of all fire arms and ammunition.

[slackmaster]

56. Pastor Terry Jones is a fucking idiot

But I think most of us already knew that.

[47of74]

86. I can't phrase it any better than you just did.

Thank you.

[lonestarnot]

57. Unfuckingbelievable idiot! Did they take his shit away from him?

Is he related to shooteminthefaceDick?

[muriel_volestrangler]

72. No, the police handed the gun back to him and let him and his driver go on their way

At 11:10 p.m. Wednesday, pastor Terry Jones of Gainesville, Fla., had just completed an interview at WJBK-TV (Channel 2) studio in Southfield, and as he was entering the passenger side of a vehicle, he retrieved his handgun from the door of the vehicle and discharged it into the floorboard.

In a press release today, police stressed no one was injured as a result. A Southfield officer, on scene at the request of WJBK, heard the shot. An investigation was initiated, and it was established that Jones has a valid Florida concealed weapon license and was lawfully carrying the weapon, a Taurus .40 caliber handgun.

A second handgun was located under the driver's seat of the vehicle. It was established that the handgun belonged to the driver of the vehicle, pastor Wayne Sapp, 42, of Gainesville, Fla., an associate of Jones. He also had a valid Florida concealed weapons license.

http://www.detnews.com/article/20110422/METRO02/104220403/1409/No-charges-expected-for-Terry-Jones-in-Southfield-gun-incident

So he could have hit his driver quite easily. Why he felt the need to pick up his gun, who knows?

[RamboLiberal]

98. They probably normally carry their guns on their person

The Fox station has no weapons policy. Guns left in car. In process probably of reholstering.

Still no excuse. Dumbass left in door pocket and ND'ed the gun when he picked it up.

[felix_numinous]

71. Only in America

A pistol packing pastor who burned a holy book to protest radicalism has a gun go off after being on a propaganda channel show called 'Let it Rip'. And that's just A-OK with the cops, and why is that?

Some perspective:
Could it be because he was a white guy who appeared on the mostly white radical christian loving corporate propaganda channel? Imagine if he was a lefty, black, Muslim, homeless, gay, had long hair or dreads, a peace demonstrator, or whistleblower--or any of the other groups outside of Fox and 'friends' circle of trust. He would have made the headlines in a completely different way.

Not to derail this really funny post, but it's pretty amazing, huh.

[mistertrickster]

109. I agree. If this had been a "New Black Panthers" thing, Fox News would be hitting

the panic button and calling for martial law.

[LiberalFighter]

73. How about these questions?

Why was it necessary for him to be handling a gun in his vehicle in the parking lot of a FOX station? Did he take the gun into the station and then when he got back into his vehicle and while removing the gun caused a discharge?

Did he feel threaten going into the FOX station? I would think he would feel safe.

[muriel_volestrangler]

83. According to the link in #72, it was in the door pocket of the car

and he picked it up when he got in. There was someone else in the car at the time. No reason at all to be handling a gun at the time as far as I can see. Maybe it's like a security blanket for him. :shrug:

[LiberalFighter]

90. Probably masturbates with it.

If he wants a bigger erection he should stick the muzzle in his rectum.

[iverglas]

150. now there's an excellently safe/secure place for a firearm

In the door pocket of a car in a parking lot.

Nobody would ever break into a car and steal stuff from it. Naaaah.

Gotta love them responsible gun owners!

[RamboLiberal]

139. Because the local Faux station is against the 2nd amendment

At least in their studios - no guns policy.

[GigiMommy]

79. OMG, my Brother works there.

I had no idea that this Creep, this Hateful Man, this supposed "Man of God" would be packing. He's horrific.

[Hassin Bin Sober]

80. The Baby Lord Jesus was trying to call one of his flock home - and fucking missed again.

[RamboLiberal]

93. ROFL - DU'zy!

Wish I could recommend comments!

[gejohnston]

104. More like he sold his soul and the devil missed trying to collect

[usaf-vet]

84. Does anyone know what the carry loaded weapon carry laws...

for a non-resident of Michigan are? There must be a law against discharging a weapon in Michigan for a non-resident.

[gejohnston]

88. to answer your question

No; absolutely; I don't know about every aspect, but certainly every aspect I know about.

[DWilliamsamh]

89. I have owned and handled various fire arms for over 25 years....

The guy is apparently made of stupid. No I have never "accidentally discharged" a weapon. Not in public, not in my home, not on a gun range - and no one I know or associate with has either.

Gee I "hope" he wasn't contemplating suicide.

[RamboLiberal]

92. The guy is a doofus - as a gunowner I have some comments on incident

My bet is he was reholstering the gun or in process of doing so when dumbass somehow pressed trigger.

To those of you asking about why he didn't have safety on. If it was a revolver it doesn't have a safety. My bet is it was semi-auto like a Glock which do not have a safety on side of frame but depend on internal safeties.

And an idiot who puts a hole in his car floorboard is not someone I'm comfortable carrying a gun.

And with how whacky Jones is even before he had the ND - well too bad he missed a vital body part!

[Hoyt]

99. Another supposed law-abiding gun owner gone bad. And folks want to allow more to carry in public.

[RamboLiberal]

95. No Charges Expected - Gun was Taurus 40 cal

At 11:10 p.m. Wednesday, pastor Terry Jones of Gainesville, Fla., had just completed an interview at WJBK-TV (Channel 2) studio in Southfield, and as he was entering the passenger side of a vehicle, he retrieved his handgun from the door of the vehicle and discharged it into the floorboard.

In a press release today, police stressed no one was injured as a result. A Southfield officer, on scene at the request of WJBK, heard the shot. An investigation was initiated, and it was established that Jones has a valid Florida concealed weapon license and was lawfully carrying the weapon, a Taurus .40 caliber handgun.

A second handgun was located under the driver's seat of the vehicle. It was established that the handgun belonged to the driver of the vehicle, pastor Wayne Sapp, 42, of Gainesville, Fla., an associate of Jones. He also had a valid Florida concealed weapons license.



From The Detroit News: http://detnews.com/article/20110422/METRO02/104220403/No-charges-expected-for-Terry-Jones-in-Southfield-gun-incident#ixzz1KGsjhCvr

I'm not totally familiar with Taurus - DU'ers who know - do they sell models without manual safety?

[bongbong]

117. Hilarious!

The unintentional irony meter always is close to pegging off the scale with pretty much every activity of pretty much every repig. But these dopes make the meter go round & round the meter at a very high velocity. I just love "religious" people who need to carry around a loaded gun. I guess their "trust in God" has been replaced by "trust in lead".

There really is no word or set of words that accurately describes just how idiotic these idiots are.

[Blacksheep214]

96. In God we trust?

Doesn't look like it!

[Travelman]

97. There is no such thing as an accidental discharge of a weapon.

There is, however, such a thing as an irresponsible fool who doesn't handle his weapon properly. Reverend Idiot-child here is clearly one of those people.

[jpak]

100. The Devil made him do it - either that or he's just another "responsible" moran

that can't handle his guns

yup

[madokie]

101. "Is this man just a complete idiot in every single aspect of this life?" covers it

[mistertrickster]

108. As a gun owner, I concur, the man is a complete idiot in every aspect of his life. nt

[RamboLiberal]

111. +1000

[JustABozoOnThisBus]

110. Was this a rental car?

Nobody treats rental cars with any degree of care. Hit potholes at high speed, shoot holes in it, no wonder they sell for cheap after a year of abuse.

:hi:

[yellowcanine]

112. Bad title. Guns don't "go off" People discharge them. "Jones accidentally shoots his car" would

be more accurate.

[plumbob]

114. Gun goes off and misses! Dammit! Better luck next time!

No, I'm not kidding.

[toddwv]

116. Maybe God was warning him to stop being such a douchebag?

[KamaAina]

118. Praise the Lord and pass the ammunition!

:eyes:

[Atypical Liberal]

119. Negligent discharge is negligent.

DU gun owners - have you accidentally fired bullets in public? Isn't part of being a responsible gun owner knowing how to avoid such a dangerous thing? Is this man just a complete idiot in every single aspect of this life?

In 30 years of shooting I have never once had a negligent discharge of a firearm, in spite of twice handling a firearm I thought was unloaded that turned out to be loaded.

Almost any time a firearm "accidentally" goes off it is due to negligence on the part of the person handling the firearm.

This is also why I prefer firearms with a manual safety. Many people do not like firearms with manual safeties, because it is something you have to remember to disengage before bringing the firearm into action. Many firearms have integral safeties. For example, the Springfield Armory XDM series of pistols have a safety built into the grip and a safety built into the trigger. The firearm must be gripped and the trigger pulled before it will go off. Unfortunately, this kind of safety doesn't protect against stupid handling. If you pick up the firearm and pull the trigger the firearm will go off just as if it had no safety at all.

A manual safety allows you to engage an interlock so that it won't fire until you disengage the interlock. Such manual safeties make routine handling of the firearm much safer, in my opinion. Yes, you have to remember to disengage the safety before actually using the weapon. But since you will be almost certainly handling the weapon far more than you will be actually using it, I think this is a prudent feature to have.

Of course, the other problem here is the reason why the fellow was farting around with the firearm in his car in the first place is because the studio he was going to does not allow firearms inside the premises. So he had no choice but to leave it in his vehicle.

[Zambero]

120. The 2nd Amendment does not prohibit such behavior

I suppose the newly-expanded universe of being pro-gun would also include the right to shoot up one's own car. So by all means, "Let It Rip", Pastor Jones.

[BobbyBoring]

121. It's a fucking shame

It didn't hit him in the head. We'd have 1 less dangerous idiots in America

[Permanut]

123. And in a stunning announcement from the NRA...

it was announced that guns don't just "go off", and that any reports of the incident to that effect by Fox are incorrect.

(The above statement is not intended to be factual)

[jmowreader]

129. Sometimes you have to wonder...

Why is it, when the gun of a prominent insane Christican (this new word is a compound of "Christian" and "Republican"--add it to your daily speech!) accidentally goes off, it's never pointed in the direction of its owner?

[daggahead]

132. The jury just denied Jones the protest! n/t

[Crunchy Frog]

137. Should people who do things like this retain their right to own firearms?

[Dappleganger]

138. Obviously he missed.

[RamboLiberal]

140. "I always, always have the safety on"

"I always, always have the safety on, and I guess if I can find an excuse, I'd been up since 4:30 a.m. and I forgot to put (the safety) back on," he said.

Read more: http://www.nydailynews.com/news/national/2011/04/22/2011-04-22_muslimhating_koranburning_pastor_terry_jones_accidentally_shoots_his_gun_in_mich.html#ixzz1KIvTZLzT

Detroit Free Press video of Jones owning up: http://www.freep.com/videonetwork/914377126001/Pastor-Terry-Jones-addresses-gun-discharge

And do you always, always pick up the gun with your finger on the trigger dumbass?

[Paradoxical]

142. Multiple firearm owner here. This guy is a fucking moron.

It's nearly impossible to accidentally discharge a modern firearm. I could throw my Smith and Wesson 5906 out a 2 story window onto pavement and it would be safe.

[RamboLiberal]

144. The moran admits he left the safety off - blames being up since 4:30am

But moron still had to have finger on trigger when he picked up the gun.

I agree with you. Never depend on manual safeties.

[ileus]

145. It's called a holster...greenhorn.

[left on green only]

148. I think the real implications of this event may have been overlooked

There are probably many of you who will agree with me that his piece probably hadn't been "sleeping" on the floor of his car for the whole day. Being that just "moments" before it went off, he had been inside the studios of Faux, I would say that he was probably packing while inside the studio. Stay with me now. What *if* it had gone off just as he was standing along side of Rush, or if it had gone off while he was shaking hands with Glen. What if his piece had gone off while he was rubbing up against Sarah, as he showed her how happy he was to finally meet her? The world might now be a better place, that's what. I always try to take a positive attitude towards these things.

[valerief]

151. Gun is three-letter word starting with G. Like God. To some people, guns are God. nt

[Gregorian]

152. 2nd Amendment versus 6th Commandment. So confusing....

[Enthusiast]

153. We already knew the guy was a stupid fuck.

This is just more evidence.

[fujiyama]

154. Personally I don't give a shit about burning a book

but this sounds like something that endangers public safety and I would throw the book at someone for this.

What a fucking idiot - and a dangerous one at that!