Texas Pol Still Isn't Satisfied on Obama Birthplace

[last_texas_dem]

Source: Texas Tribune

>>>State Rep. Leo Berman, R-Tyler, has checked out the birth certificate President Barack Obama released this morning — and he's not satisfied.

GOP leaders like U.S. House Speaker John Boehner may believe the matter "has long been a settled issue," as he said today in a statement. But Berman, who has raised persistent questions about Obama's birthplace, said he has many more questions and that it will take "someone like a Donald Trump" to really determine whether the president has "pulled the greatest swindle, the greatest hoax, in the history of the United States."

Berman, who has filed a "birther" bill this session that would force future presidential and vice presidential candidates to show their birth certificate in order to get on the Texas ballot, said he's got several key questions with Obama's birth certificate: Why did it take the president so long, amid a conservative firestorm, to release it? Why does it look "brand new," he said, when it's supposed to be five decades old? Why doesn't the hospital listed on the birth certificate have a "plaque on the door" commemorating Obama's birth there? And has anyone checked with the delivery room doctor listed on the birth certificate (whose name Berman says is curiously difficult to make out)?

"I'm hopeful that it's a good birth certificate," Berman said, "and that's all I can say.">>>

Read more: http://www.texastribune.org/immigration-in-texas/birthright-citizenship/texas-pol-still-isnt-satisfied-on-obama-birthplace/

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Just in case anyone was curious whether the craziest wingnut in the TX legislature (and there's a LOT of competition there!) deemed the newly-released birth certificate acceptable...

[warrior1]

1. he released it in 2008

you fucking racist (Berman).

[krispos42]

2. As predicted almost 3 years ago.

When this first reared its stupid head.


This idiot could be time-traveled to the delivery room of Obama and watch him come out of his mom's vagina, AND watch the nurse fill out the birth certificate, and he still wouldn't be satisfied.

"I hope that's a real vagina, that's all I can say".

:eyes:

[tclambert]

10. Time travel won't work either. "How do I know that's really Barack Obama? Lots of babies have

ears that stick out that much."

[Fool Count]

35. He can take the baby's DNA sample bring it back to

the present and compare it to one taken from Obama. That's the only way to be completely sure. Even then one would have
to believe those DNA-scientists who surely are all Obama supporters. Also it would be possible for Obama's agents to go
back in time with his DNA and replace the sample taken from that baby before it is delivered to the present. Damn, that
Obama is wily. We must adopt a law that all babies born in the US should have their DNA samples taken and stored so that
we could later check any future presidential candidate against that database. That's the only way to prevent a foreign-born
impostor from becoming US President in the future. As an added bonus we could also do random DNA checks in the street
and deport everyone who is not in this database or another similar database for legal immigrants.

[RUMMYisFROSTED]

64. Hmmm.

[Historic NY]

3. Boy, he must be unhappy with Jesus Christ's birth certificate.

[tclambert]

12. Well, they got His father's name wrong.

[Beartracks]

42. Ouch! LOLOL n/t

[FiveGoodMen]

4. They never will be.

(since it's not their real issue, anyway)

[polichick]

5. Must be awful to be so fearful and so ignorant.

[plumbob]

6. FFS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Get out of my beloved state of Texas, Leo!

WTF kind of name is Leo, anyway? Roman? Damm sure ain't Texan, is't?

And Berman? Why does it rhyme with Vermin? Huh? Mighty gawdamned suspicious!


HAH! What'd I tell ya?


http://www.texastribune.org/texas-legislature/texas-legislature/state-rep-leo-berman-leads-charge-from-right/

A first-generation American, Berman knows the significance of immigration in the country’s history. His parents came through Ellis Island in the 1920s — his father from Latvia and his mother from Poland.


I wanna see their gawdamn papers that prove they came here legally, and I want to see his papers to see how in the hell he made it from Yankeeland to down here.

I want his ass deported and pronto! Latvia or Poland, I don't give a rat's ass.










I really don't think I am kidding.....

[elleng]

13. He's an embarrasment to MY people, DAMN.

P.S., delivery room doc is dead, and his family is celebrating news that he was there!!! Thread somewhere around here.

Here it is:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=439x972416

[freshwest]

27. Ship Cheney and the Bushes out, and then find out what pit of hell Perry crawled out of. Deport!

[plumbob]

38. Yes, and quick!

Thanks!

[freshwest]

44. Could you get Haggee to emigrate to Israel while you're at it? Just saying...

I just think it would improve religion in general there. Maybe.

[plumbob]

45. Done!

Great ideas, all!

[Devil_Fish]

37. are you saying that Leo is an anchor baby? NT

[plumbob]

39. Why, I do believe I might be!

Thanks!

[Prana69]

48. I don't think it is too much to ask....

... that the immigration official who processed Berman's parents through Ellis Island in the 1920s be asked to testify that they did, in fact, proceed legally through that institution rather than jumping the turnstyles.

Maybe their documents issued in Latvia and Poland were fakes? Can someone out there prove that they were not fakes?

If these issues can't be resolved well, there'll always be questions won't there?

P69

[plumbob]

53. Yes, and another - even if his parents did proceed legally, and even

if their documents were valid, how do we know he's their son? Any DNA testing been done? What about HIS documents - birth certificate, just to start, and is the official that took that information on that purported document still alive, and can he or she testify that they had conclusive DNA evidence at that time to back up the anecdotal information being provided by folks of uncertain provenance?

So many questions, so little time!

And hey, what about Trump's mom from Scotland? Hey, it's a short step from haggis to the horrors of terrorism! I think it's entirely likely that Trump (Trump? You mean like trumped-up, false, phony, fake?) is at least HALF an anchor baby!

[Blue_Tires]

7. New headline:

"Free Publicity Available to Any Politician Who Still Questions President's Birthplace"

[Angry Dragon]

8. Has anyone seen this man's birth certificate??

How do we know he is not a product of a petri dish??
How do we know he is an American citizen??
He could be a communist ....... he never has said he is not.........

[RedCloud]

61. Yah! And we all know Barman and Beerman! But Berman?

Sounds like one of those forged document birth certificate typos.

[russspeakeasy]

9. Sorry for the rest of texans, but you have as many racists

as Florida. And no smarter.

[AllTooEasy]

11. Has anyone checked with the Delivery Room Doctor???!!!

"Oh yes, when that White woman shot that Black kid out her vagina over 4 decades ago. Yes, I'll never forget that day!"

[Frank Cannon]

56. He died in 2003.

But his family doesn't seem to recall any trips to Africa that he made back in the '50s.

[BulletproofLandshark]

14. "pulled the greatest swindle, the greatest hoax, in the history of the United States."

No, that would be the GOP platform 1980-present.

[sadbear]

15. He must be trying to out-crazy Louie Gohmert

Gohmert represents the district that contains Tyler, TX.

[provis99]

51. no kidding? Is Tyler the whackadoodle center of Texas?

sounds like there's enough republican moronish-ness to fill a whole 10 gallon cowboy hat.

[Frisbee]

16. 99% of the birthers know that Obama was born in the USA...

and is an American citizen. It is in their mind just one more way to keep chipping away and him. Their real issue is that he is not the same color as them, and surprisingly, they are smart enough to realize they can't come right out and say that.

[Frank Cannon]

58. As another DUer pointed out, they're looking for a euphemism for the n-word.

"Illegal African immigrant" is as close as a slur as they're able to come.

[SoapBox]

17. Wow...what a frack'n loon this guy is.

Nuts like this should be banned from politics...they're dangerous to America.

[Sonoman]

18. "Why does it look brand-new?" Gimme a fucking break.

My birth certificate is two years old and I am almost 60.

I got along all those years on a Certificate of Birth until my last Passport renewal when someone at the Post Office realized it wasn't an official Birth Certificate.

Jeebus...

Sonoman

[Frank Cannon]

59. How many times do you actually have to produce one?

It's not like a driver's license or a Social Security card.

My original birth certificate, the one with my footprints, has been resting undisturbed in the same location for decades.

[nbcouch]

19. greatest swindle and/or hoax??

No, that took place when George W Bush pretended to be president of the United States for eight years.

[bigworld]

20. It looks brand new because it's been in a binder

for 50 years, is on acid-free security paper, and has likely been kept in prime archival conditions. Don't ask what you don't know about.

[bigworld]

21. The copy is on security paper, my mistake

But the original, I'm sure, is on some kind of quality paper.

[ixion]

22. It has NOTHING to do with 'Birthplace' and EVERYTHING to do with the color of Obama's skin

because, Mr. Berman, you see, is a dyed-in-the-wool racist.

[pinniped]

23. If anyone knows how to swindle people, it's that idiot Chump.

Check out how many bankruptcies this clown has chalked up over the years. This loser also scams people at those real estate seminars, and that's just what's publicly known about this clown.

[ladywnch]

24. well, the wife of the widow of the delivery doctor recognized his name/signature

but, then again, she was probably part of the conspiracy from the beginning. Her husband, the delivery doctor passed away in 2003.

[beac]

63. A HA! And just WHY didn't that doctor leave a note saying

"Here are the people I delivered who MIGHT be famous one day after I am dead..." with Obama's name on it. Surely a REAL doctor would have done so, right?
:rofl:


The desperate-straw-clutching begins in earnest now.

[countmyvote4real]

25. No racist moron could ever be satisfied with Obama's legitimacy.

I'm not surprised.

[PeaceAndLove4Ever]

65. Agreed.

They will never be happy with the proof that is presented before them. We all need to look out tho and make sure we don't stoop to their level by grouping them all in one class by calling them all racist. They are morons tho lol!

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[ck4829]

31. Yes

You're a racist.

[armodem08]

29. SHOCKING!!! n/t

[Taft_Bathtub]

30. This is what happens when you placate morons like this

Any other nation would laugh at idiots like this, but in America we give them special attention and treat their opinions as valid/worthy of being printed in the press.

[AndyTiedye]

36. That is Because of Who Owns the Press

[freshwest]

47. You got it. I don't have the chart anymore, but there was one out there showing how the directors...

Of all the weapons, energy and other industries are the ones in charge of all MSM. And that the foundations covering up the money from those same groups are the major donors at universities, the think tanks, etc.

It's part of the reason you see the same faces from so many venues, banking, industry and government just changing titles. They're all related by education or family. That was some years ago. Now I believe the media outlets are down to less than five owners.

No wonder there is no real diversity of opinion, because that would lead to some uncomfortable questions being posed. So they keep the argument somewhere between right and far right, muddle the real questions with phony ideology, and don't inform us.

And here we are, with life and death questions, and this is what they serve up to us. But it has to be disproved, it has to be answered, or more regressives will use the media to influence voters. Sigh.

[BrightKnight]

32. Tyler is the wing-nut capital of Texas. - n/t

[Dyedinthewoolliberal]

33. Oh for cryin' out loud!

50 years ago, and I shudder to think I'm old enough to remember something from 50 years ago :) , these 'wingnuts' would have no air time, print space or credibility. The thing that I can't understand is we all know how badly Hilary wanted to be nominated. We all know how bright, capable and politcally sharp she is. If her team couldn't find any dirt on Mr. Obama, then THERE AIN'T ANY!!!!!!!!!!! :mad:
When Kennedy was running for president we had to put up with the Catholic issue. He addressed that and it was put to bed.
Unfortunately for Mr. Obama, he can't change the color of his skin. So the wignuts will persist and our media, in its never satisfied state of content consumption, will give this kind of thing time because it's easier than doing the real job of journalists. :puke:

[rpannier]

34. Thank you Rep Berman you have proven the late President Truman so very correct when he said

Suppose you are an idiot. Suppose you are a Republican.
Oh, but I repeat myself.

[high density]

40. I don't understand the point of the birther legislation...

Even now that Obama has presented his birth certificate (again), they still do not believe the documents. If they're not going to believe the facts that are presented, why ask for the facts in the first place?

[prole_for_peace]

41. I live in Texas and I HATE it when these jackasses pop up

It can be a great place but people like these make others think we are all like this. My area is actually more blue than red.

[Swagman]

43. the greatest hoax was Berman being elected

[struggle4progress]

46. Texas lawmaker still has his doubts about Obama's birth (Star-Telegram)

By Aman Batheja
[e-mail]

State Rep. Leo Berman, a Tyler Republican and professed "birther," said Wednesday that he remains uncertain that President Barack Obama is eligible to be president.

"I'm not doubting that it's a truthful birth certificate, but my questions still hold," Berman said.

The former Arlington mayor pro tem said the document doesn't look old enough to be Obama's birth certificate. He also said he has questions about the doctor and the hospital listed.

Along with a printout of the White House's release, Berman also had with him Wednesday a purported copy of Obama's Kenyan birth certificate ...

http://www.star-telegram.com/2011/04/27/3032392/texas-lawmaker-still-has-his-doubts.html

[No Elephants]

49. Who is Berman and who cares what he thinks about anything?

We need to ignore this issue anymore.

We have troops in harm's way in at least 4 ountries, yet the only things on the news are Harry and Kate's wedding and Obama's long form birth certificate.

JAYSUS!

[plumbob]

54. You forgot Lindsey Lohan! Won't SOMEBODY think of the CHILD??!!

ANYBODY??

[Keith Bee]

50. Leave the country, Berman

And take your state with you.

[Ilsa]

52. I just got a Certified copy if my 50+ year old birth certificate

and it doesn't look old either. Looks brand new. Geez, the stoopid iz reaching epidemic proportions.

[panzerfaust]

55. Makes me proud to be a Texan

Can't pull no durn sheep-farmer wool over the Eyes of Texas!

[jpak]

57. If I only had a brain.....

dumbass

yup

[Dappleganger]

60. The doctor who delivered him is dead, but his widow did verify the signature belonged to her husband

[hamsterjill]

62. Must it always be Texas???!!!

Good heavens, what an idiot!

[laureloak]

66. DON'T let these idiots define Obama like they did Kerry! n/t

[newspeak]

67. I actually think the birther thing is smoke and mirrors

a devious plan to further inhibit voting rights. Forcing voters to show their papers (identification), and only certain officials will determine if that satisfies requirements to register to vote or even vote. I think there are racists who buy into the "Obama is a Kenyan", but the goal all along was to further suppress voter registration.