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Champ Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-15-04 04:02 AM
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Arizona State University looking into possible fraternity hazing
Edited on Thu Apr-15-04 04:02 AM by Champ
April 14 - Photos of a whip-wielding woman and the marred bare buttocks of male students have prompted a hazing investigation into an Arizona State University fraternity, school officials and police said Tuesday.

Seven photographs showing male students who may have been whipped at the Pi Kappa Alpha fraternity house, at 615 Alpha Drive, were anonymously delivered March 15 to the ASU Office of Greek Life and the Office of Student Life along with a letter of complaint, according to a police report released by the ASU Department of Public Safety.

Some of the photos show at least eight men being made to lie on their stomachs with their arms and legs in awkward positions with pieces of lime in their mouths, according to a memo written by ASU police Cmdr. Allen Clark.

There are also photos of a woman, who is topless in one of the photos, wielding a whip or belt to the buttocks of at least one of the men, while the other students show "clearly visible red marks/ welts on their bare buttocks," the memo stated. Cups of what appear to be alcohol are shown on the floor next to the students.

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http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/4740367/
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Quetzal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-15-04 04:04 AM
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1. Yikes
They must have been drinking A LOT!
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JaySherman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-15-04 04:12 AM
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2. Two words:
Who CARES? :shrug:

Nothing against you, Champ. But the people who make a big deal out of things like this are just silly.
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Champ Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-15-04 04:18 AM
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5. I'm just posting articles that I see
I'm not overblowing anything in the article.
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JaySherman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-15-04 05:04 AM
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6. Nah. Not you.
I was commenting on the contents of the article itself.
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The Backlash Cometh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-15-04 07:20 AM
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8. I care.
This sounds pretty sadistic. And if they treat each other this way, God knows how they'll treat others.

But I don't think it belongs in Latest News. Maybe DU Lounge?
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JaySherman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-15-04 07:27 AM
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9. I think there are more important things to worry about
Edited on Thu Apr-15-04 07:29 AM by JaySherman
than a bunch of college kids engaging in S&M, silly as the whole thing may be. Alcohol, bondage; people combine the two all the time. The difference is these guys participated in it as an organized activity and they got caught. Still doesn't merit a news story imo. But that's American media for you. No wonder 40% of the country still supports Bush.

There, I turned it into a political item. Solves the problem of moving it. :D
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The Backlash Cometh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-15-04 07:55 AM
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10. With all due respect, I think you're wrong.
College fraternities are not all that innocuous. That's were good ole boy networks begin. At least, that's how they begin in the South and the North-East. I'm not familiar with other parts of the country.
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Robbien Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-15-04 04:15 AM
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3. Wondering why this is being posted in a political forum
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MrSlayer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-15-04 04:18 AM
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4. Yeah, and?
Isn't this normal college shit? These guys willingly go in for it. What's the big deal?
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salin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-15-04 06:16 AM
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7. I don't know... but living in a town that has had several deaths
related to college rush and hazing activities in recent years ... I say - that if there starts to be a large discussion (beyond "charges" and "denial and defense") where members of the Greek Community really start talking and processing between hazing that is demeaning vs. those activities which are physically dangerous and can lead to serious physical damage and/or accidental death. So if this incident - and the U.'s looking into it - forces those conversations within (student end of) the system - then thats not a bad result.
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