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GCP Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-15-04 06:22 AM
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AFP "Cheney fears NKorea will give terrorists nuclear knowhow"
Here we go, folks, the next war.

http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&cid=1520&e=2&u=/afp/20040415/pl_afp/china_us_cheney_nkorea_040415084101

SHANGHAI (AFP) - US Vice President Dick Cheney (news - web sites) voiced fears that North Korea (news - web sites) will provide nuclear technology to terrorist groups like Al-Qaeda, and warned of a nuclear arms race in Asia if it is not stopped.
"Time is not necessarily on our side," he told students at Fudan University in Shanghai, referring to the Stalinist state's nuclear weapons capabilities.

"We worry given what they've done in the past, and given current capabilities, that North Korea could very well provide this technology to someone else, or terror groups.

"We know that there are terror groups like Al-Qaeda that have tried to acquire nuclear weapons before."

Few analysts however seem to believe the idea of North Korea as a major potential proliferator of weapons of mass destruction.

Pyongyang's diplomats are more likely to use this option for blackmail, threatening to equip terrorists if the United States pushes them too hard, they say.
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Robbien Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-15-04 06:32 AM
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1. Cheney's nuts
First he tells China they need to keep North Korea in line and then he makes this public statement which of course will rile North Korea.

If Cheney is doing this to influence the South Korean elections, his timing is way off. But it sure will keep that country in turmoil for several months to come.

We should just stay out of foreign nations. Our foreign policy stinks.
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Muddleoftheroad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-15-04 06:35 AM
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2. How do we do that
Stay out of foreign nations? What would have us do? Pull out every soldier and sailor on foreign soil? How about business interests?
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Disturbed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-15-04 06:42 AM
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4. Foreign Policy
Cheney is a jerk with no freakin' sense. The USA has
a State Dept that gets paid to deal with countries.
He should keep his smirk ass mouth shut about a lot
of things and this was certainly one of them.
Didn't a company he was woring with try sell NK some
nuclear material or equip. in the 80s?
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Muddleoftheroad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-15-04 06:44 AM
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6. I would call that a non-answer
And the State Dept. comment cracks me up. The one thing both sides agree on in D.C. is that they can't stand the gray suits at State. The State Dept. has a nasty tendency to pursue its own agenda no matter who is in the White House. During Clinton, there were very similar complaints about State as there are during *.
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chenGOD Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-15-04 07:10 AM
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11. Cheney: running scared.
He came to South Korea today, the day they're having parliamentary elections. He'll be staying less than 24 hours. Anyone else find this scheduling just a little bit timid on Limp Dick's part?
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MSgt213 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-15-04 06:41 AM
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3. If North Korea wanted to do that what has stopped them Mr. Cheny?
North Korea enjoys at the moment China's protection if you think about it China would be not please at all if North Korea did something like this because it would be seen as a threat to China's security. North Korea would be shooting themselves in the foot selling nukes to terrorist.
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Muddleoftheroad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-15-04 06:42 AM
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5. OK, you are assuming NK acts rationally
That's your first mistake.
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MSgt213 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-15-04 06:59 AM
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9. Wrong I'm assuming that at all. What I would'nt assume though is that
they have a death wish. My argument has more to do with self preservation. People can seem not to be rational but that does'nt equate to them being stupid.
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Muddleoftheroad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-15-04 07:16 AM
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12. Again, even self preservation argues for logic
But I never said they were stupid.
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Mountainman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-15-04 07:09 AM
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10. Are you assuming Cheney acts in our best interests?
I seems to me the one you should be questioning is Cheney. Why does the vice president go around the world and try to make our foreign policy for us? Were is Bush? Where is Powell?
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Muddleoftheroad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-15-04 07:16 AM
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13. Cheney acts in Cheney's interests
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w13rd0 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-15-04 07:32 AM
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16. Are there mornings where you...
...fall off the left side of the bed? Or do you always fall off the right? And does that make it difficult to remember where you are at when you type?
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Muddleoftheroad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-15-04 07:39 AM
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18. How is an anti-Cheney comment
Considered a conservative view?

I'd alert, but I'd really rather have an answer.
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w13rd0 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-15-04 07:43 AM
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19. Go ahead and alert...
...I didn't say squat about a "conservative view".

Oh, but you want an answer...to a question you asked in response to a statement unstated...tell us about known unknowns and unknown knowns...please...
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Muddleoftheroad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-15-04 07:45 AM
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20. OK, that was certainly a weird post
Again, why do you think making an anti-Cheney comment is conservative?
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0007 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-15-04 06:44 AM
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7. The Real Truth about Richard Cheney's fear's
...is that Halliburton will be run out of Iraq.

Now that junior and his crime cabal is taking flack and hell from the American people, Cheney is gonna scare us with the Korea thingie.

Yeah right Dick, tell us something we don't know? Like your secret energy papers and the folks who were at your meeting.

Your loaded for bear alright mr. cheney. Bear Shit that is -

Shut the Fuck up Cheney!!
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Robbien Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-15-04 06:57 AM
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8. Remember Cheney is the one who still is
claiming that the trailers are proof of WMD.

His full attention is on money and power. And for everything else it is as if he lives in a bubble.
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0007 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-15-04 07:16 AM
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14. I didn't know that? I heard that Colin now knows the trailers
were a WMD lab.

Thanks for the info Robbien.
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The Zanti Regent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-15-04 07:26 AM
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15. This is insane.
I guess we now live in the Bizarro World
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Robbien Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-15-04 07:35 AM
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17. Just checked and saw that Cheney stopped making the claim
around the first of April when the news came out that Chalabi's group was the one that supplied the erroneous information.

So for the last two weeks he has remained silent on the issue, but before that at every fund raising dinner Cheney brought out the trailer as evidence of WMD.
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teryang Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-15-04 07:46 AM
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21. Chechny's protections of Pakistani proliferation
...is what enabled N. Korea to obtain nuclear weapons technology. There is absolutely no evidence of their proliferation.

Having brought south Asia to the brink of nuclear war on more than one occassion and lied under oath in Congress about these matters in the past, he has zero credibility with China.
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Barrett808 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-15-04 09:50 AM
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22. No worries - no oil in N. Korea n/t
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Corgigal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-15-04 09:54 AM
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23. Doesn't matter really
Kahn already did and the US looked the other way because we are
"hunting" down Osama for the re-election.
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priller Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-15-04 09:56 AM
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24. He should be looking at Pakistani Dr. Khan, who they "pardoned"
if he wants to stop proliferation of "nuclear knowhow". He's the one who provided it to the North Koreans, after all.

But no, Pakistan is our ally. Sure it was the #1 spreader of nuclear secrets, bin Laden is currently hiding out within it's borders, but Bush says they're an ally. And, as we all know, he's NEVER wrong.
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David__77 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-15-04 10:16 AM
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25. Each bomb dropped against a sovereign people increases the chances.
...provided N. Korea even has such know-how. I think that sovereign states will certainly resist the aggressive US attempts to impose a unipolar world order.
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sam sarrha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-15-04 10:32 AM
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26. maybe that is why the NEOCON's are pissing them off, a Nuke in NYC would
would take the heat off the Iraqi problem.
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