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central scrutinizer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-15-04 12:40 PM
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Poll shows Bush leads Sen. Kerry in Oregon
http://www.dailyemerald.com/vnews/display.v/ART/2004/04/15/407eb6a452caf

The local fishwrap doesn't put their current edition online until noon PDT, but this from the University of Oregon campus newspaper is basically the same story. I will post the other link after noon.

excerpt:

A recently released University survey shows President George W. Bush has a narrow edge over Democratic presidential candidate John Kerry in Oregon.
The survey of 444 registered Oregon voters, conducted between March 19 and April 7, shows Bush leading Kerry 47 percent to 45 percent, according to a University press release. The results are within the poll's margin of error of 4.7 percent.

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The survey also found that 1 percent of Oregonians supported independent candidate Ralph Nader and 6 percent were undecided. Bloom compared the recent survey to a March 4 poll conducted by The Oregonian, which had Kerry leading Bush 45 percent to 40 percent.

end excerpt.

At this time four years ago, Nader was pulling around 7% (he ended with 5%)
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Trajan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-15-04 12:45 PM
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1. This was posted yesterday ...
Note the incredibly small sample size ...

I could poll a restaurant and get a larger sample ...

Dont drink the Koolaid ....
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unblock Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-15-04 12:45 PM
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2. note the unusually small sample size
444 is less than half of the usual size. the margin of error is 4.7% here, the usual is around 3.0%.

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Not Me Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-15-04 12:50 PM
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5. Sample size/margin of error
The margin of error is directly related to the (small) sample size. What is misleading is that the article should call it a dead heat, since the MOE is so wide.
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qb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-15-04 12:46 PM
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3. What do you expect when the options are:
A. Heroic War President
B. Traitorous War Protester
C. Leftist Goofball

I'm being facetious, but they didn't say how the question was phrased.
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onehandle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-15-04 12:50 PM
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4. dupe...small sample....it's only april....yawn....etc.
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0rganism Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-15-04 12:58 PM
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6. Screw Oregon, win Ohio instead
Edited on Thu Apr-15-04 12:59 PM by 0rganism
Let the bushistas waste their ad money on this pissant 7-ev state -- which they've been doing in spades, over the last month or so. Maybe they'll get lucky and eke out a victory here for the first time in decades? Big deal. As long as Kerry takes back Ohio, I'm quite happy.

Also, note that the gay marriage thing has mobilized a lot of the latent rightwingers statewide, so there's a chance the poll is picking up on that trend.
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Skip Intro Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-15-04 12:59 PM
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7. Between Mar. 19 and Apr. 7 -
Edited on Thu Apr-15-04 01:02 PM by nu_duer
This poll ended just as the chaos in Iraq had hit headlines, and before condi lied to the 9*11 commission and before the Aug.6, 2001 PDB was released and before mr. staythecourseonthebloodyinvasionIliedtostartandifIhadknownplanesweregoingtobeusedIwoulda- butIdidn'tandbesidesInevermakeamistakes fell flat on his face before the nation, right?

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lancdem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-15-04 01:08 PM
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10. And the early part of the poll was done when Kerry
was struggling on the defensive a bit. We should keep in mind Gore won the state by 7,000 votes in 2000, and any state where Kerry is statistically tied is one he'll almost certainly win because the undecideds will break mostly against the incumbent.
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peterh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-15-04 01:05 PM
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8. They must’ve polled all my siblings up there….
All repugs….love them dearly, but when they limit themselves to just the Oregonian…well, ‘nuff said….
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phatkatt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-15-04 01:07 PM
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9. They must have polled the local yacht club
I'd be stunned if Oregon went to *.
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dawn Donating Member (876 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-15-04 01:14 PM
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11. I'd be extremely surprised if * won Oregon.
Most of the population is in the Portland area, and there's not too many Repukes up there.
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0rganism Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-15-04 02:02 PM
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15. You would be surprised
Even good ol' Multnomah county, where I live, is getting a lot less progressive. The population is swinging out to the 'burbs, where the people are trending anti-tax uber alles. Also, among the remaining progressives, there's a substantial contingent who will vote for Nader. I'm hoping against hope that Dennis Kucinich can win back a lot of the die-hards with a classic liberal message, and then rotate them to Kerry.

Don't underestimate the potential for the gay marriages to mobilize the rightwing zealotry. Hell, a thousand clergymen attended a recent convention to discuss how best to attack gay marriage, and each one of them is going back to a congregation. Oregon may well turn out to be a loser -- and at 7 ev, Kerry can afford to skip us for now. Ohio and Pennsylvania are much more important.
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callous taoboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-15-04 02:50 PM
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17. Yep, Texas
is anti-tax ville, and our dumbass governor is pushing for allowing anyone with a bachelors degree teach, even if the person has had no teacher training or education coursework. What a frickin' slap in the face for all of us who have had years of coursework and teacher prep prior to teaching.
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DrWeird Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-15-04 01:18 PM
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12. Gore only beat Bush by some 6500 votes in Oregon.
It could go either way.
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Arugula Latte Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-15-04 02:38 PM
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16. I think the Nader vote will be much less than the 5% it was last time
Still, it makes me want to vomit that a poll would show a close race here. Everybody I know here HATES Bush, but then, I tend to only hang around with progressives.

I'm hoping Portland, Eugene and the cool coastal pockets will swamp the rural vote and that the suburbs will break for Kerry.
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GregW Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-15-04 01:24 PM
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13. I was at UO on Tuesday at a board meeting ...
... and I sure as hell didn't see many repukes up there!

Go Ducks!
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central scrutinizer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-15-04 02:00 PM
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14. further link from city paper
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hyphenate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-15-04 03:22 PM
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18. If I recall
Isn't Oregon one of the states where Nader didn't get onto the ballot? I don't see too many people doing a write-in for him, either. Those 5% or so will (hopefully) end up in Kerry's camp.
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