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TomCADem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-15-11 12:27 AM
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Boehner: 'Too many people' in the room in White House debt talks
Source: The Hill

Speaker John Boehner (R-Ohio) on Thursday said “there are too many people” in the White House negotiations over raising the debt limit.

“The room’s too big,” Boehner said in an interview with Fox News host Greta Van Susteren. “There are too many people in there trying to negotiate what is a very difficult, could be and will be a very difficult agreement. There are just too many people in there pouring cold water on virtually every idea that gets thrown on the table.”

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Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid (D-Nev.) said earlier Thursday that House Majority Leader Eric Cantor (R-Va.) should be cut out of the negotiations because he has been unconstructive, but Boehner defended Cantor's role in a separate news conference.

Boehner told Van Susteren that despite the ongoing impasse between Republicans and Democrats, he was still hopeful Congress could strike “the big deal.” He said a plan floated by Senate GOP Leader Mitch McConnell (R-Ky.) to give the president more authority to increase the debt ceiling was a “last-ditch” plan but not his “preferred option.”



Read more: http://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing-room/news/171669-boehner-too-many-people-in-white-house-debt-talks



Translation: Get Eric Cantor out of the room, because he thinks he can just repeat Fox News talking points, and expect everyone to nod their head in agreement.

The problem is that no one in the Republican party has an iota of leadership within their caucus. They have fostered an environment where reaching an agreement with a Democrat is weakness, thus they undercut each other whenever progress toward a deal is made. Cantor already undercut Boehner twice. First, by quitting meetings with the VP. Second, by killing Boehner's attempt to negotiate a deal with the President.

Why does Boehner or McConnell think they can reach any agreement without some other Republican pissing all over the deal? The reason why you have to invite everyone is because whoever is left out pisses all over the deal on the Republican end, particularly Cantor, because Cantor thinks that this is how he can unseat Boehner as speaker.

I expect the Republicans to dramatically pull out and blame Democrats this weekend when they realize that they have no control over their caucas.
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tularetom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-15-11 12:33 AM
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1. I think the Dems have found their scapegoat/boogeyman
I honestly don't think there is a slimier, smarmier individual in national politics than Eric Cantor. Most people are just reflexively repulsed by the guy.

The more he can be portrayed as the face of republican opposition to Obama's proposals, the better chance the President has of garnering public support for those proposals.

Reid's comments are a good start, but they need to hammer on this little twerp daily.

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DallasNE Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-15-11 01:40 AM
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7. Today The "Twirp" Said Not A Word
Then Boehner put the kiss of death on him by saying there were no differences between the two. It also answered Obama's question: "who am I dealing with here, you or the Speaker".
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Warren DeMontague Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-15-11 12:34 AM
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2. Truly, Boehners don't respond well to having cold water poured on them.
Or so I've heard.
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NYC_SKP Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-15-11 12:38 AM
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3. I can attest!
It's a fact.

:P
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alcibiades_mystery Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-15-11 12:49 AM
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4. Given enough eyeballs, all bugs are shallow
:-)
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-15-11 12:54 AM
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rpannier Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-15-11 12:56 AM
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6. I agree. Too many
The Republicans can stay out of the room and more will get done.
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BlueMTexpat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-15-11 02:40 AM
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8. Hmmm ...
who would be Boner's choice to leave the room? The Prez - oh, that's right, they invited him to be there because they want to pin their failure squarely on his shoulders - so probably not. The Dem leaders - probably any one or all.

But it would never be the nasty yapping little corporate tool Cantor. Or any other GOTP'er. Boner doesn't have the balls to stand up to him/them.
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dogmoma56 Donating Member (329 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-15-11 04:14 AM
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9. “there are too many Fascist Pigs” in the negotiations..
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rasputin1952 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-15-11 04:15 AM
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10. The only thing the GOP is getting out of this...
Edited on Fri Jul-15-11 04:16 AM by rasputin1952
is the deserved reputation of being nothing more than spoiled brats with a horrific agendas that would cut hundreds of thousands of people adrift...during a recession no less.

The "problem" is not the size of the room, it's the size of GOP intellect vs hubris. Very small on intellect and huge on hubris, a recipe for disaster even a fool can recognize. Boehner and Cantor don't have a plan, they demand plans from everyone else...they are assholes.
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No Elephants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-15-11 04:16 AM
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11. Will Rogers: "I don't belong to any organized political party. I'm a Democrat."
Has anyone noticed that the tables seem to have turned quite a bit? Republicans inside and outside Congress are now the ones in the circular firing squad and Democrats inside and outside Congress seem united behind President Obama, at least on domestic issues? Sanders, who is not a Democrat, sometimes mavericks out of his caucus, but generally votes with them.

Is this a good thing or a bad thing?






IMO, in some ways and at sometimes its a good thing and, in some ways and at sometimes, it's a bad thing.


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Drahthaardogs Donating Member (482 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-15-11 04:30 AM
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12. Thump ...Thump
That was the sound of Eric Cantor getting run over by the bus after Boehner tossed him under it.
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melm00se Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-15-11 04:43 AM
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13. the real problem is the looming
2012 Presidential election.

both sides are jockeying for an agreement that they can hold over the other as a "win" during the campaign.
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reformist2 Donating Member (998 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-15-11 04:50 AM
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14. I'd rather see them argue over light bulbs.
Edited on Fri Jul-15-11 04:50 AM by reformist2
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tanyev Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-15-11 07:45 AM
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15. Make Eric stand in the hallway with his nose in a circle on the wall.
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BenzoDia Donating Member (375 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-15-11 08:02 AM
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16. Yes Mr. Speaker, there are too many people. One too many to be exact.
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Dont_Bogart_the_Pretzel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-15-11 08:28 AM
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17. Yup, Too many tan people in the room...
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beac Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-15-11 08:39 AM
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18. Yes, please kick all the whiny teenagers out of the room:


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LetTimmySmoke Donating Member (970 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-15-11 05:52 PM
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20. He looked just as much like a douche nozzle then too.
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harrose Donating Member (16 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-15-11 05:30 PM
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19. Easy solution...
... kick the ReThugs out.
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azul Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-15-11 08:36 PM
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21. The tears of a clown
is this a demented cry-baby or what?
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