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Project Grudge (228 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-18-11 01:08 AM Original message |
Fmr. Fox News Executive: Americans' Phones Were Hacked |
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AndyTiedye (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-18-11 01:13 AM Response to Original message |
1. Can We RICO Them NOW? |
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Kingofalldems (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-18-11 06:44 AM Response to Reply #1 |
23. +1 |
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ooglymoogly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-18-11 03:04 PM Response to Reply #1 |
69. Lookin' forward doncha know. |
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krispos42 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-18-11 01:14 AM Response to Original message |
2. I wonder if this is why Beck fled the TV machine. |
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Ikonoklast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-18-11 08:59 AM Response to Reply #2 |
34. Beck got canned only after bitching about the 'Muslim' Saudis. |
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FiveGoodMen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-18-11 03:15 PM Response to Reply #2 |
70. I want to start seeing spontaneous public beheadings |
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Tx4obama (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-18-11 01:19 AM Response to Original message |
3. K&R n/t |
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Arctic Dave (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-18-11 01:21 AM Response to Original message |
4. This was the headline I was waiting for. |
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Judi Lynn (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-18-11 01:31 AM Response to Original message |
5. Hope this is the beginning of far more to come. Good one. Thanks. Rec. n/t |
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Spider Jerusalem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-18-11 01:37 AM Response to Original message |
6. "Accessing phone records" = NOT "phone hacking" |
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Vinnie From Indy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-18-11 02:58 AM Response to Reply #6 |
9. Is that you Roger? |
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Spider Jerusalem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-18-11 03:10 AM Response to Reply #9 |
10. Pointing out that it's not "phone hacking" isn't defending Fox News |
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cstanleytech (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-18-11 05:14 AM Response to Reply #10 |
12. How about fraud then? |
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apnu (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-18-11 09:54 AM Response to Reply #12 |
40. Yeah its fraud, and yes its illegal. But it isn't hacking. (nt) |
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cstanleytech (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-18-11 08:13 PM Response to Reply #40 |
80. Then a crime regardless has been commited |
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SemperEadem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-18-11 05:53 AM Response to Reply #10 |
16. did Ailes have permission to obtain phone records of someone who doesn't work for him |
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Occulus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-18-11 07:28 AM Response to Reply #10 |
29. There are many definitions of 'hacking' |
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leveymg (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-18-11 08:01 AM Response to Reply #10 |
32. Maybe not. But this is: NYT: "NewsCorp paid $29 million in the US for hacking in 2009" |
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MADem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-18-11 10:04 AM Response to Reply #10 |
44. I was always given to understand that "hacking" involved cracking |
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leveymg (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-18-11 11:07 AM Response to Reply #44 |
52. It's being used generically to denote any unauthorized data access. |
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MADem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-18-11 11:10 AM Response to Reply #52 |
55. Really? |
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leveymg (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-18-11 11:13 AM Response to Reply #55 |
57. I think "wiretapping" is the proper term for what News Corp has been doing. And, that is a crime. |
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leveymg (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-18-11 11:17 AM Response to Reply #57 |
58. Here's that thread where UK wiretap law (Unauthorized Access) is discussed. |
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leveymg (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-18-11 11:23 AM Response to Reply #58 |
59. Here are the US state laws penalizing computer network intrusions: |
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leveymg (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-18-11 11:26 AM Response to Reply #59 |
60. Here are the federal computer intrusion laws: |
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leveymg (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-18-11 11:34 AM Response to Reply #60 |
62. Federal wiretap laws, and related: |
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MADem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-18-11 11:32 AM Response to Reply #57 |
61. Heh, heh...now I'm totally confused! |
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leveymg (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-18-11 11:37 AM Response to Reply #61 |
63. News Int'l/Corp has been committing a variety of crimes under UK and US laws. |
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MADem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-18-11 12:33 PM Response to Reply #63 |
67. I thought hacking was criminal, too... |
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wordpix (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-18-11 11:05 AM Response to Reply #9 |
50. Roger that! |
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fasttense (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-18-11 06:48 AM Response to Reply #6 |
24. Do you really think Murdock stopped his illegal activities at the shores of America? |
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kick-ass-bob (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-18-11 07:57 AM Response to Reply #6 |
31. God forbid you try to point out subtle truths to people. |
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TheMadMonk (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-18-11 09:12 AM Response to Reply #31 |
37. It may still be hacking, depending on how they obtained the records. |
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kick-ass-bob (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-18-11 09:56 AM Response to Reply #37 |
41. in the quote: |
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MADem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-18-11 10:06 AM Response to Reply #41 |
45. That's not hacking--that's illegally obtaining phone records. They maybe paid someone at the phone |
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aquart (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-18-11 01:33 PM Response to Reply #6 |
68. Yes. But now the NYT has the $29M hacking settlement here. |
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aquart (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-18-11 01:54 AM Response to Original message |
7. John Dean says Woodward and Bernstein also used phone records. |
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BonnieJW (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-18-11 07:39 AM Response to Reply #7 |
30. Looking at phone records isn't the same |
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DeSwiss (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-18-11 02:44 AM Response to Original message |
8. K&R n/t |
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No Elephants (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-18-11 04:00 AM Response to Original message |
11. Duh? |
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PuffedMica (584 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-18-11 05:16 AM Response to Original message |
13. I wonder if they were fair and balanced about who FOX hacked |
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wordpix (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-18-11 11:07 AM Response to Reply #13 |
51. calling Anonymous, calling Anonymous, where are you? |
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October (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-18-11 09:29 PM Response to Reply #51 |
83. We need an Anonymous signal to light up the sky! |
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SpiralHawk (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-18-11 05:19 AM Response to Original message |
14. Republicons at war against honor, truth, decency and America |
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cstanleytech (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-18-11 05:23 AM Response to Original message |
15. If this is true then shouldnt Ailes be given atleast the same treatment as Dan Rather? |
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itcfish (805 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-18-11 08:24 AM Response to Reply #15 |
33. Isnt Any Kind of Hacking Illegal? |
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donquijoterocket (357 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-18-11 11:59 AM Response to Reply #15 |
66. and all |
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Joey Liberal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-18-11 05:54 AM Response to Original message |
17. Republicans hate America |
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spooked911 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-18-11 06:03 AM Response to Original message |
18. as much as we might like this to be true, it comes from one seemingly paranoid source |
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Ganja Ninja (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-18-11 06:08 AM Response to Original message |
19. With any luck by this time next year Sean Hannity will be selling ... |
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bulloney (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-18-11 10:03 AM Response to Reply #19 |
43. I'd love to see Hannity telling his audience on the commercial, "You're going to love my nuts." |
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pauljulian (21 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-18-11 10:41 PM Response to Reply #43 |
86. But EVERYONE loves Schwetty Balls |
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get the red out (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-18-11 06:11 AM Response to Original message |
20. I can't imagine anyone besides DU will notice |
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wordpix (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-18-11 11:08 AM Response to Reply #20 |
53. not necessarily---our corporate Congress will take notice if any of them were hacked |
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liberal N proud (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-18-11 06:15 AM Response to Original message |
21. And who DID NOT think this was happening? |
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Hubert Flottz (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-18-11 06:39 AM Response to Original message |
22. Now Now...don't look back! |
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Sarah Ibarruri (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-18-11 06:52 AM Response to Original message |
25. I don't pray much, but I hope everything that comes out destroys FOX News nt |
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florida08 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-18-11 06:59 AM Response to Original message |
26. well Brooks has been arrested and out on bond |
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leveymg (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-18-11 07:09 AM Response to Original message |
27. Who is Scott Ehrlich, the man running the Brain Room? |
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wickerwoman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-18-11 09:17 PM Response to Reply #27 |
82. "Imagineered"!?! |
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Ian David (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-18-11 07:21 AM Response to Original message |
28. This is what Bill O'Reilly meant when he threatened to sic "Fox Security" on people. |
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Alcibiades (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-18-11 08:59 AM Response to Original message |
35. Past behavior predicts future behavior |
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Happyhippychick (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-18-11 09:12 AM Response to Original message |
36. Fox had a "brain room"? |
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wordpix (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-18-11 11:09 AM Response to Reply #36 |
54. I know, I know, it's an oxyMORON |
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BridgeTheGap (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-18-11 09:18 AM Response to Original message |
38. It's clear what happened. Fox news WAS part of the government under Bush. Therefore, with the |
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Kingofalldems (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-18-11 09:43 AM Response to Original message |
39. Kick one time for the teabaggers |
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boycottfaux (161 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-18-11 10:01 AM Response to Original message |
42. RATS |
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OKIsItJustMe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-18-11 10:17 AM Response to Original message |
46. This is actually an old story |
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felix_numinous (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-18-11 10:32 AM Response to Original message |
47. News of the World |
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leveymg (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-18-11 10:50 AM Response to Reply #47 |
48. I don't really give a rat's ass about celebrity gossip - it's the political dirty tricks and foreign |
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Selena Harris (273 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-18-11 07:25 PM Response to Reply #48 |
76. Are you and I the ONLY ones who |
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daggahead (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-18-11 10:54 AM Response to Original message |
49. I have to wonder if, when this thing blows wide open ... |
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wordpix (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-18-11 11:11 AM Response to Reply #49 |
56. unfortunately, their control of the House will be a sticking point BUT |
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craigmatic (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-18-11 11:53 AM Response to Original message |
64. I'm not surprised. All these fox assholes should be in prison. |
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spooked911 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-18-11 11:54 AM Response to Original message |
65. Interesting story about Piers Morgan and hacking |
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Selena Harris (273 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-18-11 07:30 PM Response to Reply #65 |
77. Piers Morgan is business partner of Murdoch's son-in-law,Matthew Freud |
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bergie321 (797 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-18-11 03:54 PM Response to Original message |
71. Sounds like |
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midnight (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-18-11 03:55 PM Response to Original message |
72. Rodger another Nixon asset. |
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Selena Harris (273 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-18-11 07:41 PM Response to Reply #72 |
78. Roger Ailes Secret Nixon Era- Blueprint for Fox News |
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CoffeeCat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-18-11 06:20 PM Response to Original message |
73. AT&T and other companies had to help!!! |
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marions ghost (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-18-11 06:39 PM Response to Reply #73 |
74. yep |
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glinda (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-18-11 09:41 PM Response to Reply #73 |
84. Exactly. And don't think that blackmail isn't a common tool. |
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Firebrand Gary (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-18-11 07:05 PM Response to Original message |
75. Steven Harper, David Cameron, George Bush what do they all have in common? |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-18-11 07:55 PM Response to Original message |
79. kr |
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Firebrand Gary (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-18-11 09:01 PM Response to Original message |
81. Rachel Maddow just reported one of Murdochs company was busted in NJ for hacking. |
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rocktivity (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-18-11 10:13 PM Response to Original message |
85. Well, duh. |
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