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Judi Lynn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-20-11 01:35 AM
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Cuba allocates idle lands to farmers
Source: Xinhua

Cuba allocates idle lands to farmers
Updated: 2011-07-20 10:25

HAVANA - The Cuban government has handed over 68 percent of idle lands to new farmers, an agriculture official said Tuesday.

According to Anibal Nunez, deputy director of Cuba's National Land Control Center, 77.1 percent of the lands given have been used for food production.

From January to June, 12,795 of the 15,975 land applications had been approved. However, 9,000 farmers who failed to "put the land into operation" within two years had to return the lands to authorities, Nunez said.

The Cuban Ministry of Agriculture is carrying out a "re-inspection" of usufruct land to determine the area of idle lands left on the Caribbean island, he said.

Read more: http://www.chinadaily.com.cn/world/2011-07/20/content_12941970.htm
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dipsydoodle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-20-11 02:57 AM
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1. Kick.
I assume this is for livestock too ?
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RedCloud Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-20-11 06:28 AM
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2. Why doesn't Cuba clear this with the Koch bros first, like we do here?
Imagine a government able to help people without the Koch bros. inspired crazies roadblocking every step of the way.
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robcon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-20-11 11:00 AM
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3. Help people??? They stole land, then are giving back unused (read: less fertile) parts of it.
There are always a few who can't understand propaganda.
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dipsydoodle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-20-11 11:57 AM
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4. The land was nationalised for the overall good of the population.
It wasn't appropriated from the normal Cuban population : it was taken from the likes of United Fruit.
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zogofzorkon Donating Member (256 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-20-11 12:00 PM
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5. And there are those people who can
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LanternWaste Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-20-11 12:04 PM
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6. Much like the town of North Richland Hills
Much like the town of North Richland Hills stole land from homeowners to build a larger parking lot for the nearby mall.

"There are always a few who can't get past American exceptionalism."
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harun Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-20-11 12:58 PM
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7. Stole it? Who'd those people buy it from? The king of Spain? Wonder how he got it?
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Judi Lynn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-20-11 03:40 PM
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10. It's not stolen land when they were offered compensation, as you know.
For DU'ers who haven't taken enough time to research the subject, Cuba offered compensation for confiscated land long, LONG ago, and the business was finished at the time by property owners with residence in other countries.

Property owners living here were advised not to settle by the U.S. government.

Four quick random search grabs, and there are so many more, as anyone can discover who looks:
U.S. Wary Of Push To Buy Claims To Confiscated Property In Cuba
By BILLY HOUSE | The Tampa Tribune
Published: June 17, 2008

~snip~
Along with a summer home in Tarara, a small sugar plantation, a bank and a tobacco store, the total value of the family's confiscated property has been estimated to exceed $3 million.

Decades later, Roberts and her siblings have yet to receive a dime; frozen relations between the United States and Cuba have prevented their claim from being resolved.

~snip~
The Cuban government has paid lump sum amounts to settle outstanding property claims by other countries, including Canada, France, Spain and Sweden.

Tensions Stall Settlement Talks

But the diplomatic tensions with Cuba have prevented such talks about settling American claims.
More:
http://www2.tbo.com/news/central-tampa/2008/jun/17/na-speculators-seeking-to-purchase-cuba-claims-ar-132002/

~~~~~
Anti-Cuba Law Backfires on U.S.
by Dalia Acosta

~snip~
Former owners of expropriated U.S. property in Cuba, affected in 1960s by Washington's decision not to negotiate compensation, have seen the possibility of any solution to their claims gradually fade into the distance.
"The new law suspends possibilities for a rational resolution for the process of claims on nationalized property between the two countries," said Cuba's Minister of Foreign Investment and Economic Collaboration, Ibrahim Zerradaz. Cuba holds to the principle that any negotiation concerning compensation should operate at an intergovernmental level, on an equal basis, as was the case with Canada, Spain, Britain, Italy and Mexico.

Government sources contend that a large part of the U.S. debts would have been settled already if Washington had accepted the payment of compensation in the form established by Cuban legislation.

Cuba's Decree 851, issued on July 6, 1960, allowed for the forcible expropriation of property belonging to U.S. citizens or legal bodies on the island and the payment of these through the issue of Republic Bonds, to be redeemed within a period of no less than 30 years at an interest rate of no less than two percent per year.
More:
http://www.albionmonitor.com/9610a/cubaboomerang.html

~~~~~
AMERICAN TRADE WITH CUBA:
AN ANALYSIS OF THE CURRENT EMBARGO
AND ITS FUTURE

~snip~
Jaime Suchlicki, the director of the University of Miami's Institute for Cuban and Cuban-American Studies, also believes ending the embargo is wrong. Suchlicki wrote that ending the embargo would have several negative effects, including the tacit endorsement of Castro's regime. Suchlicki also mentioned the fact that Castro seized American property following his revolution. However, when the Cuban government seized control of US properties, Castro did offer compensation, much as the US government does with eminent domain. The United States refused the offer, though, and declared the embargo.
More:
http://www.brucesabin.com/american_embargo_cuba.html

~~~~~
Monday, May 25, 2009
Property Compensation Claims
US-Cuba thaw may mean compensation for lost assets
Created 25/05/2009 - 16:45

SOURCE: AP

~snip~
Cuba also expropriated property belonging to hundreds of non-US firms and has signed compensation agreements with Canada, Switzerland, France, Great Britain, Spain and Mexico.

The US negotiated settlements for American property lost to Vietnam's communist government, to Iran after its Islamic revolution and to Eastern European countries that went communist after World War 2.

But not Cuba. In 1960 Castro's government offered compensation in bonds or sugar exports to the US but American authorities say that would have required their country to buy huge amounts of sugar at inflated prices.

A year later the US imposed the embargo and froze Cuban government accounts in American banks. At the end of 2005, the US Treasury Department said $US268.3 million remained, though how much is still there today is unclear.
More:
http://uscubanormalization.blogspot.com/2009/05/property-compensation-claims.html

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dipsydoodle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-20-11 03:46 PM
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11. Thanks for those links
:hi:
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Judi Lynn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-20-11 04:00 PM
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12. Hi! It's always been the truth, but some refuse to admit it as it doesn't support their big lie.
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roody Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-20-11 01:08 PM
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8. Damn commies
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WatsonT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-20-11 02:59 PM
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9. Why is that land unused?
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Judi Lynn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-20-11 06:04 PM
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13. It would be an easy guess that it's land which was formerly used for growing sugar cane,
knowing that Cuba has cut back sugar production in the last decade.
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WatsonT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-21-11 08:15 AM
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14. That's what I suspected and if so the land could be lying fallow for a good reason
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