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Judi Lynn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-26-11 03:25 AM
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Chinese 3-man submersible makes its deepest dive
Source: Associated Press

July 26, 2011 3:16 AM
Chinese 3-man submersible makes its deepest dive

(AP) BEIJING — China's oceanic institution says a manned Chinese submersible has successfully reached its lowest-ever depth.

The State Oceanic Administration says the submarine with three men took less than three hours Tuesday to dive to a depth of more than 16,404 feet (5,000 meters).

State-run Xinhua News Agency says the Chinese-made Jiaolong is the world's first manned submersible designed to reach a depth of 22,965 feet (7,000 meters). It will attempt a test dive at this new depth next year.

Japan's Shinkai 6500 has a depth range of 21,325 feet (6,500 meters) and is the greatest of any manned research vehicle in the world today.



Read more: http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2011/07/26/ap/asia/main20083304.shtml
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melm00se Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-26-11 03:52 AM
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1. huh?
State-run Xinhua News Agency says the Chinese-made Jiaolong is the world's first manned submersible designed to reach a depth of 22,965 feet (7,000 meters).


the Trieste made a dive to the bottom of the Mariana tench and that was almost 11,000m in 1960.
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Judi Lynn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-26-11 04:06 AM
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2. Wierd. I just looked it up, being unfamiliar with the Trieste. You're right!
Not sure what they actually meant to say, hard to tell. It seems unlikely they'd deliberately lie about it when it's so easy to learn about the Trieste, after all.

Thanks for the info. setting the story straight.

Here's a short description of the other submersible:

http://www.pbs.org/wnet/savageseas/deep-side-journey.html
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Politicalboi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-26-11 04:15 AM
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3. Oh why not
We rewrite history everyday here in Amuricka. Like how Paul Revere warned the British and all. And the Earth is only 6,000 years old. Americkan's buy this shit. Why not theirs? LOL!
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melm00se Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-26-11 04:20 AM
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4. only the uneducated and ignorant
believe those.
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skoalyman Donating Member (751 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-26-11 02:50 PM
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13. I thought he charged at the british riding a buffalo?
:P
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SkyDaddy7 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-26-11 04:52 AM
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5. "Research Sub" the Trieste was a "bathyscaphe"...
That might be the reason why they are claiming what they are.
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Judi Lynn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-26-11 05:12 AM
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6. Thanks! n/t
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Divernan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-26-11 08:11 AM
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8. Bathyscaphe Trieste went to 35,798 feet depth
Recreational scuba divers' recommended maximum depth is 120 feet. Usually we go 60-70 feet and see great sights. My maximum depth was one carefully planned and executed dive to 134 feet to see a spectacular underwater sea mount in Saba Marine Park in the Caribbean. In some parts of the Caribbean, you can dive maybe 80 feet and look over the edge of the ocean shelf into the abyss - endless dark depths. How puny is man on this planet - that we have seen so little of the ocean depths. We only "explore" it enough to get at oil or indiscriminately harvest fish - with little regard for the destruction or devastation we wreak.

From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

A bathyscaphe (play /ˈbæθɨskeɪf/ or /ˈbæθɨskæf/) is a free-diving self-propelled deep-sea submersible, consisting of a crew cabin similar to a bathysphere, but suspended below a float rather than from a surface cable, as in the classic bathysphere design.

The float is filled with gasoline because this is readily available, buoyant, and for all practical purposes, incompressible. The incompressibility of the gasoline means the tanks can be very lightly constructed as the pressure inside and outside of the tanks equalises and they are not required to withstand any pressure differential at all. By contrast the crew cabin must withstand a huge pressure differential and is massively built. Buoyancy can be trimmed easily by replacing gasoline with water, which is denser.

Mode of operation - To descend, a bathyscaphe floods air tanks with sea water, but unlike a submarine the water in the flooded tanks cannot be displaced with compressed air to ascend, because the water pressures at the depths for which the craft was designed to operate are too great. For example, the pressure at the bottom of the Challenger Deep is more than seven times that in a standard "H-type" compressed gas cylinder. Instead, ballast in the form of iron shot is released to ascend, the shot being lost to the ocean floor. The iron shot containers are in the form of one or more hoppers which are open at the bottom throughout the dive, the iron shot being held in place by an electromagnet at the neck. This is a fail-safe device as it requires no power to ascend; in fact, in the event of a power failure, shot runs out by gravity and ascent is automatic.

In 1960 Trieste, carrying Piccard's son Jacques Piccard and Lt. Don Walsh, reached the deepest known point on the Earth's surface, the Challenger Deep, in the Mariana Trench. As of 2010, these two remain the only people to reach this extreme depth. No manned vessel has ever repeated this feat. In 1995, the Japanese sent an unmanned submersible to this depth, Kaikō, but it was later lost at sea. Most recently, in 2009, a team from the Woods Hole Oceanographic Institution sent a robotic submarine named Nereus to the bottom of the trench.

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SlicerDicer- Donating Member (311 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-26-11 11:59 AM
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11. 134 is not that crazy...
Edited on Tue Jul-26-11 12:02 PM by SlicerDicer-
I mean given that recreational is actually 130. The largest problem is no deco, however I rarely go below 120 but I do use nitrox so it makes it a lot easier. I hit 115 off Lanai a few days ago and started getting narcosis. That to me is the biggest risk is narcosis for going deeper however I was dehydrated so narcosis was induced early I am betting. I will test this next time I go that deep and have somebody with me doing narc tests.

http://slicerdicer.imgur.com/ I hope you enjoy some of the pics here, I share them free of cost and no restrictions on redistribution. I figure the more people that see the more that may want to save the underwater world that is so invisible to most people.

http://slicerdicer.imgur.com/molokini_blackwall_of_doom_and_dispair#wSh5J btw this drops to beyond 400ft if I remember right.
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madrchsod Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-26-11 07:03 AM
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7. ap quoting the communist xinhua news agency....
now there`s two trusted news agencies.
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Judi Lynn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-26-11 12:04 PM
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12. Right. Ignorant, or morally unsound people will "quote" Xinhua. You caught me. n/t
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Octafish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-26-11 08:33 AM
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9. See what you can do when the guvmint invests in basic research.
Who knows? Maybe one day they'll get to the bottom of the sea -- or the surface of the moon.
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Dreamer Tatum Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-26-11 03:22 PM
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14. Or maybe they can crash a bullet train, huh? nt
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Octafish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-26-11 04:32 PM
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15. Do you know about Magnequench?
Along with America's manufacturing jobs, BFEE offshored our national security.

Outsourcing US Missile Technology to China: US Workers Charge Treason

Old news, right?
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Remmah2 Donating Member (971 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-26-11 08:34 AM
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10. Only a three man Republican sub could go lower.
;)
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