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alp227 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-26-11 11:48 PM
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(Jerry Brown) Governor vetos Campos' union-sponsored bill
Source: San Jose Mercury News

Gov. Jerry Brown has vetoed a bill by Assemblywoman Nora Campos that would have given employee unions the power to choose half of all civil service commissions.

The bill was sponsored by the American Federation of State, County and Municipal Employees, a major union representing government workers.

In comments contained in the legislative analyst report, Campos -- a former San Jose City Council member who has long championed union interests -- said that the bill "would ensure that the commissions will be more balanced and fair." The commissions weigh disputes over personnel issues in government agencies.

Critics said the bill would amplify what they already consider to be excessive public employee union influence over government.

Read more: http://www.mercurynews.com/rss/ci_18554439
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Ken Burch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-26-11 11:50 PM
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1. Well, he already sold out the farmworkers by vetoing the only bill that could've helped them
Face it, Jerry Brown doesn't give a damn about workers. Never did.
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alp227 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-27-11 12:03 AM
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3. well to some (in the comments section) he gives a damn about the taxpayer
but I'm not buying that story about clerical workers retiring on $100k a year.
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boppers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-27-11 12:25 AM
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7. It's California.
It happens.

http://www.dpa.ca.gov/publications/pay-scales/20110621111504/section-07.pdf

Shows a top scale of $69.23 an hour.

$69.23 x 40 x 52 is $143,998.40 salary, per year.
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alp227 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-27-11 12:49 AM
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8. interesting, but I'd say the more skilled workers would earn that n/t
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shanti Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-27-11 12:53 AM
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9. what happens?
please tell me. i used to be a clerical worker for the state and no way in hell does anyone ever get that kind of money as a clerical worker. i retired at a higher level and i didn't even make half that.

are you anti-union?
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Go2Peace Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-27-11 01:05 AM
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12. Propaganda and dishonesty happens.
And then you have people on DU expressing Republican hate for fellow citizens.
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boppers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-27-11 05:06 AM
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14. Never assume hate. Or anti-union.
I've never made more than 60K a year in my life. (Yes, I say that knowing some DU folks have never made 30k a year, I try not to be a rich asshole).

However, if I was a "supervision" worker, or "experienced" in another way, the union might have helped. Into a 3-figure payment.

As far as California goes, well...

http://abcnews.go.com/US/bell-california-scandal-reaches-court-city-manager-dozes/story?id=13028339
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No Elephants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-27-11 05:14 AM
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15. Now, now, I've never seen any DUer accuse you of being rich.
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David__77 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-27-11 08:44 PM
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18. That is not a clerical worker.
I know that, as an economist, I make much more in the private sector than I could working for the State of California.
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boppers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-28-11 12:02 AM
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20. Unions negotiate for a lot more than the bottom rung clerical workers.
Since the "bosses" are the government, a whole lot of senior management types and highly paid professionals are technically the "workers".
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David__77 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-28-11 01:13 AM
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21. Of course highly paid specialists are working people.
So long as they're not proprietors, that's true. But so what? Someone said there're no 100,000 clerical salaries, and you seemed to contradict that, which would seem erroneous...
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boppers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-29-11 01:42 AM
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23. Ah, gotcha.
"Clerical workers" was a strawman, insinuating that disagreements about state worker union wages was about "clerical workers", rather than all workers. I glossed over the "clerical" part, because I see most governmental jobs as a clerical/white-collar/regulations kind of position.
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Bryn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-26-11 11:55 PM
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2. Too many Trojan Horses running around these days
posing as a democrat for people when actually they're the Corporatist.
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Bette Noir Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-27-11 12:06 AM
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4. Jerry Brown's not a corporatist. He's a two-faced snake.
I'll never forget what he did to me when I worked for the State, decades ago. We had been working for several years without a raise during a recession. When times got better, the State legislature voted a small bonus to long-term employees, in appreciation of our loyalty. Brown vetoed it. Yeah, he took $300 from me, when I was a 25-yo single mother making $3.80/hour cleaning kitchens and dining rooms in a State hospital.

He can bite my shiny metal ass.
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shanti Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-27-11 12:57 AM
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10. he's not easy
never has been, but i'd rather have had him over GAS the last 8 years...how do you think it was like to have had $10,000 taken from your paycheck over the course of a year? it devastated sacramento state workers.
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earcandle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-27-11 12:17 AM
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5. I thought I could count on his ability to vote progressively. Damn. He won't get my vote no more
if this is what he does with it.
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-27-11 12:17 AM
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Lucinda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-27-11 01:04 AM
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11. Why did he veto it?
Did he make a statement?
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ClarkUSA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-27-11 01:07 AM
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13. Read all about it --->
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No Elephants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-27-11 05:22 AM
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16. Will probably result in more elderly and disabled in nursing homes. Pennywise, pound foolish, like
Edited on Wed Jul-27-11 05:23 AM by No Elephants
so many cuts that harm people who have nothing more to give.

Edit to replace "programs" with "cuts."
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Lucinda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-27-11 06:37 PM
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17. No time to research it today. I'm flu-y and not on the comp much today.
That's why I asked you...I thought you might have heard his explanation for the veto.
Thanks for the link though.
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ClarkUSA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-27-11 10:03 PM
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19. Jerry Brown also vetoed a bill to help the elderly & disabled. So much for Draft Brown 2016.
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w4rma Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-28-11 10:43 AM
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22. That two-faced SOB. (nt)
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