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brooklynite Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-28-11 03:33 PM
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House GOP still short on votes (4:08 PM)
Source: The Hill

House Republican leaders are still looking for the votes to pass Speaker John Boehner's (R-Ohio) debt-limit bill.

Boehner and his lieutenants are publicly expressing confidence, but their actions clearly show that they are still rounding up support. Boehner on Thursday afternoon was seen lobbying members, seeking “yes” votes in what is the biggest vote of his Speakership.

There are 22 House Republicans who will vote no or are leaning no, according to The Hill’s whip count. There are more than three dozen Republicans who are publicly undecided, and 12 of them said or suggested on Thursday that they are still on the fence.

Boehner and his top lieutenants were scrambling for votes Thursday in anticipation of this evening’s vote, expected at around 6 p.m.




Read more: http://thehill.com/homenews/house/174209-house-gop-still-short-on-votes



Some people here seem to be hoping for a failure by the House to pass this. My view is that a failure by Boehner to deliver votes on a "compromise" (or at least a starting point for negotiaiton with the Senate) will spook the markets tomorrow morning.
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C_U_L8R Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-28-11 03:35 PM
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1. Did they check the bathrooms
it's a popular GOP hangout
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cheneyschernobyl Donating Member (137 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-28-11 07:22 PM
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16. It's funny you mentioned that.
In the 80's I remember the Senate trying to get enough Senators in the Chamber to vote on something. Orrin Hatch (UT) didn't like the content of what the Democratic majority was trying to get a vote on (the word cloture comes to mind). Hatch went to hide in his office, and barricaded the door with furniture. The Cops were notified and they went and practically dragged him to the Chamber.

Have been looking for something about this online; no luck so far.
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sharp_stick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-28-11 03:36 PM
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2. I don't know
I think the markets have failure built in at this point. The bill isn't seen by many as a compromise starter, Bohner hasn't even talked to the Democrats in the House.
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LiberalEsto Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-28-11 03:36 PM
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3. They're short on a lot of things
Brains, sanity, empathy
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no_hypocrisy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-28-11 03:37 PM
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4. Translated: Offer more money or power.
Or threaten to take away money to that district.
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RDANGELO Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-28-11 03:38 PM
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5. I've got a hunch
Edited on Thu Jul-28-11 03:39 PM by RDANGELO
This is going to be one of those three hour votes, and He still might not have the votes.
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jpak Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-28-11 03:39 PM
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6. So, if it does not pass - what is Boner's Plan B?
:shrug:
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sharp_stick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-28-11 03:42 PM
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7. Scotch and lots of it
just another Thursday night in the Bohner household.
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dimbear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-28-11 07:34 PM
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17. Tears. Idle tears. I know not what they mean. n/t
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bowens43 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-28-11 03:42 PM
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8. F*ck the markets
there should be no compromise. period. There should be an up or down vote on the debt limit.
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bluestateguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-28-11 03:43 PM
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9. Remember the Medicare drug bill vote (December 2003)
They obliterated the 15 minute time limit and kept the roll call open for over 3 hours.

DeLay, Blunt and Boehner took members into a back room and did God only knows what to them to clear 218.

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EC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-28-11 03:50 PM
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10. I'm sure the markets know this is all for show
and that it's dead on arrival in the Senate. Plus, the "markets" already said it's not enough to not stop a down grade in rating whereas the Reid plan is good enough.
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cbdo2007 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-28-11 03:59 PM
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11. A "spook" in the markets will be short term, but this bill not passing the house would be huge for
President Obama.

I'll sacrifice my stock holdings for the team. They'll recover. :)
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brooklynite Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-28-11 05:27 PM
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15. No, this would be terrible..
If Boehner can't deliver the votes for his own bill, he certainly won't be able to deliver votes for a "compromise"
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Politicalboi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-28-11 04:12 PM
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12. They better hurry
Isn't Happy Hour approaching soon.
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CakeGrrl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-28-11 04:57 PM
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13. It won't spook the market. Reid already said it's DOA in the Senate.
They can work with Reid's bill or just pass a clean debt limit bill.
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andym Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-28-11 05:22 PM
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14. Interesting tha Boehner won't even try to compromise with Pelosi or democratic House members.
Edited on Thu Jul-28-11 05:24 PM by andym
to try to get extra votes to work around the tea party. Shows that they really don't want to compromise.
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DreamSmoker Donating Member (442 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-28-11 07:45 PM
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18. Righteous ignorance
John Boehner just plows his crap right up everyone's ass...
No compromise there at all and never ever has been from Him and his Hobbits..
Nothing at all changed that today either...
Boehner Head thinks his Party runs this show and screw everybody doing it...
And to add insult to injury... His Bill is way short of the Deficit reduction he set for the Dems.
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No Elephants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-29-11 04:57 AM
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19. Those seats in the Senate and the House get more comfortable as time passes.
People who sit in them get more and more reluctant to lose them in the next election.
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