Obama Hits Lowest Approval Ever In Gallup Poll

[t0dd]

Source: TPM

The debtpocaplypse has completely enveloped Washington, and the effects are now seeping out of town, bringing down the national approval ratings of political leaders. Even President Obama, who had retained fairly strong numbers in spite of legislative clashes and a difficult economy, is starting to reach new lows. Obama has hit 40% approval in the Gallup tracking poll, for the first time in his presidency.

Read more: http://tpmdc.talkingpointsmemo.com/2011/07/obama-hits-lowest-approval-ever-in-gallup-poll.php

[FrenchieCat]

1. Yeahhhh!

Finally! :applause:

[TwilightGardener]

2. Well, Mitchy might get his wish after all. Make the man's job virtually impossible,

threaten to collapse the economy, and the confused public won't know--or care--who is to blame.

[Raschel]

28. +1

[Kablooie]

66. That's the plan. It's actually pretty smart because it's working.

Just like becoming the party of NO won them big gains in the last election.

This strategy of blocking the government from working when Dems are in control is actually pretty clever.
It will probably give us a new teabagging president in the next election and then government will start working again.
(Working to tear out every support for American citizens of course, but working nonetheless.)

God help us all.
(Wish there was a God so that plea could mean something. )

[TwilightGardener]

73. After the last 2 1/2 years, and having lived through the Clinton years,

there are times when I just want to say, "Let 'em have the country." They will not allow Dems to govern at all. There's no "your turn" and "our turn" as a consequence of elections, there's just their turn or nothing, no matter who's President or who controls Congress. Maybe the best Dems and progressives can hope for in the next decade or so is to be a small obstructive minority, begging them not to take away the last shreds of Medicare and SS altogether.

[emulatorloo]

3. Look further down in the story. "the President is actually faring better than others involved"

Another Gallup poll showed that the President is actually faring better than others involved in the debt debate: compared with Obama's 41% approval on handling the negotiations, House Speaker John Boehner registered a 31% approval on the debt talks and Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid only got 23%. But it's clear that has the partisan back and forth continues, the messy lawmaking process provides a general drag on the leaders in Washington.

In other words, every body's numbers are low.

[Bluenorthwest]

7. And such 'ratings' are relative

What is important is that they are all not faring well. Obama has 10 points on the Gentleman from Sunkist. He's ahead.

[bowens43]

9. So?

Face it, if you're a liberal or a progressive this president is miserable failure. He is losing his base.

Obama is going to have a hard time getting out the vote. He screwed us. He VOLUNTEERED to cut social security that was his idea, not the republicans. His numbers are tanking.

Keep spinning if you like but Obama has wasted his presidency.

[Qutzupalotl]

21. Who's spinning?

Everybody's numbers ARE low, that's a fact.

"His numbers are tanking," you say. Did you notice that everyone else's are tanking more?

"He volunteered to cut social security." Really? A change in COLA calculations, in exchange for raising taxes on the rich, or are you suggesting it was just given away? Because if so, it ain't happening. Remember, if they nixed the deal, it's no longer a part of it. So you're not screwed yet.

[renegade2011]

53. Firebagger bullshit, yet again

Y'know, the psychopathology of the Teabaggers is pretty bad, but the relentless bullshit jabbering about "Obama is a miserable failure" by self-described "liberals"/"Progressives" is worse -- because THEY should know better.

http://www.blueoregon.com/2010/12/obamas-accomplishments/

http://whatthefuckhasobamadonesofar.com/

I'm also mystified by how glaringly obvious it is that so many people didn't bother to read his book "Audacity of Hope". In it, he is RELENTLESSLY clear about his views on "bipartisanship" and "compromise" (which he obviously believes to be good things, btw.)

But what's REALLY amazing is how intransigence and partisan grand-standing are EVIL when done by TEABAGGERS (Because the Republicans are "the party of No"), but "Progressives" want to bitch about Obama *specifically because he's NOT being an intransigent dickhead*.

Seriously.....what the fuck is up with this?

The Teabaggers are loathesome psychopaths NOT merely because of the policies they advocate (which are shitty policies), but more because they are so bloody-minded and intransigent about them.

Then again, a lot of the folks bitching about how Obama (supposedly) "Caved" are probably also the same dumb-asses who "stayed home to send a message" last November. ("Depressed voter turn-out" means YOUR OPPONENTS WIN, people -- how hard is that to understand?

Maybe Obama wouldn't have to do so much "bipartisan compromise" with sociopathic Teabagger weirdos IF THOSE WEIRDOS WEREN'T IN THE HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES?

If you want to bitch about how sucky Obama is as a president, go over to Free Republic or some shit.

[HankyDubs]

56. put a sock in it

People who know and care about policy know this guy has done nothing but fuck us every which way he can. That's his strategy, to kick and abuse the people who voted for him. You know what happens? You lose the base that supported you.

The teabaggers are loathsome psychopaths and you are endorsing another bend over backward "compromise" with them. What does that make you?

[renegade2011]

72. What "base" would that be, hmm?

The kind of folks who actually think primarying him with a "Real Progressive" like Bernie Sanders is a good idea?

Seriously: if you "knew and cared about policy", you'd be intelligent enough to understand that a "Real Leftist" (President Nader, Sanders, whoever): would get NOWHERE.

Now either actually demonstrate how the accomplishments to which I linked didn't happen, or STFU, like I said. I'm paranoid enough to understand that it wouldn't be that hard for a Teabagger to "infiltrate" a board like this just to seed discontent with Obama.

I wish he wasn't such a fetishist for "bipartistanship" myself -- BUT, given the fact that whiny latte-Libs thought it would be a great idea to not vote last November, a president who is already "too far to the Right" NOW has to deal with REAL Right-wing nutballs. (Yeah, not voting really "sends an message"). :)

If you *really* believe that Obama has "betrayed his base", you're delusional. Whiny Latte-Liberals were *never* his "base" (and never will be, because they tend "care about policy" -- IDEOLOGY -- so much that they're off voting for total non-starters like NADER.

So pull your head out of your ass, admit that Obama is the best we can get under the circumstances, and stop aiding and abetting the Teatarded quest to destroy Obama's presidency.

So go for it: by all means, help the Teabaggers destroy Obama (and deny that he actually got anything done). Have fun watching your "Real Progressive" primary-challenger go NOWHERE, and most of all, enjoy President Bachmann/Palin/Cain. (Any Teabagger is pretty much interchangable in terms of crazy).

If you "knew and cared about policy", you'd concentrate on stuff that will ACTUALLY get implemented -- NOT ideological masturbation.

[sunnybrook]

82. we need a like button

Like this comment

[Divernan]

83. You who joined DU this week caution about someone infiltrating DU?

And presume to lecture all the longtime progressive Obama supporters who now realize they elected a Trojan Horse?

I must say, you managed to get possibly a record numbers of condescending, snarky and/or obscene insults to progressives into your posts. We've seen your kind before and we know exactly what you're doing here.

And no, we won't be headed over to Free Republic.

Nothing the Obama campaign would like better than shutting down all the progressive voices at DU.

[Fumesucker]

88. Welcome to DU..

I hope you enjoy your stay.

:hi:

[JDPriestly]

61. Obama is not able to bring compromise and get people

to work together within his own party. What chance could he possibly have of a bipartisan compromise when he snubs a good portion of his own party?

It's unrealistic.
Of course, Republicans are split, but Democrats are split too. Republicans know that Democrats are split, that Obama has not bothered to get his party united behind him and that makes it less likely that they will agree to a compromise. Why should they make it easy for Obama?

And I have to ask that question. Why would Obama think that he can get Republicans to agree with him when he can't get a significant part of his own party to agree with what he is doing. He certainly has not sold me on his proposals for Social Security and Medicare and Medicaid. They are so unclear.

And I think they already cut a lot of money from Medicare when they did the health insurance reform bill. So they have already cut seniors? Why so much focus on cutting seniors again? What does Obama have against seniors?

[Divernan]

85. Nothing Obama campaign would like better than shutting up progressive DUers

That's why posters like you insult long time DUers, rather than calmly debate and defend Obama's actions.

[Ter]

54. Those tanking more aren't running for president

Yeah, Obama would beat the Speaker if he ran for president, but he isn't running. If Romney or Perry gets the nod...Well, I'm not gonna say they'll win, but it certainly will be tough.

[JDPriestly]

60. The basket they use for COLA calculations are bad enough.

They don't nearly reflect what seniors really buy or the higher prices that seniors are paying for them -- medical services and supplies for example.

So, changing the COLA would cut Social Security benefits. It's a dumb, horrible idea to mess with Social Security. Obama ran on raising the cap on Social Security taxes and he should stick with that way to deal with Social Security.

[No Elephants]

65. Denying that this particular change in COLA calculations is a actually a cut is reprehensible.

And it is only the beginning.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2009/01/15/AR2009011504114.html

[Qutzupalotl]

75. You will notice that I didn't.

This change would indeed have the effect of a cut. My point was that it was not "volunteered" in exchange for nothing, but was an attempt to get the Republicans to agree to a tax increase. They still haven't, so it's not reasonable to expect that the COLA adjustment will happen without it.

[TrollBuster9090]

26. The more progressives he loses, the better he looks to "centrists."

I don't agree with the dumbass re-branding of conservatives as "centrists," but there's nothing I can do about the Oveton Window at this point. "Centrists" are, in fact, what we used to call 'moderate conservatives,' and today's moderate conservatives are what we used to call John Birch Society psychopaths. But whatever. The fact is that he can't win re-election without the centrists who broke 3/2 for Democrats in 2008 and 3/2 for Republicans in 2010.

This time around, Obama will lose a lot of progressives. At the same time, however, a few of the tea party nutcases will stay home, or vote libertarian because they've seen first hand that GOP is not serious about destroying the big bad old gubmint. So, the election will be decided in the center, not the fringes.

Progressives will do better to throw strong, vocal support behind progressive Congressmen like Kucinich, Sanders, Franken, etc., than to try to push a centrist Democratic president farther to the left. We tried that with Carter, when he was primaried by Teddy Kennedy and ended up getting 30 years of Reaganomics for our troubles.

[No Elephants]

67. IOW, you don't believe this poll, even a little.

Okay, I can buy that. However, if you believe this poll, even a little, he's NOT gaining as much support as he's losing, regardless where you think the losses are coming from.

[TrollBuster9090]

23. It means nothing. Obama's approval ratings are still higher than Reagan's, and we know

how that turned out. Let me know when he gets to CARTER levels (29% approval in August 1979).

http://www.gallup.com/poll/124922/Presidential-Approval-Center.aspx

[placton]

34. reagan was Obama 1 n/t

[TrollBuster9090]

40. No argument there.

[No Elephants]

69. Obama is to the right of Reagan on a number of things.

Not in rhetoric, necessarily, but in how each has governed. And that is understandable. Reagan was elected pre-DLC and had to worry about the left. Now the Democratic Party itself has morphed into something Reagan could only dream of.

Koch sure knew what he was doing when he contributed to the DLC, even as he was planning the Tea Party. Many of the rest of us were fast asleep.

[No Elephants]

68. If the poll is valid at all, it does mean SOMEthing. It may not mean his

re-election is in danger, but it does mean something.

[chaperonio]

78. You provided a link that does not prove Obama's approval is higher than Reagan's

at this point in their presidencies. The link does not even work. Can you check the url?

[TrollBuster9090]

24. It means nothing. Obama's approval ratings are still higher than Reagan's, and we know

how that turned out. Let me know when he gets to CARTER levels (29% approval in August 1979).

http://www.gallup.com/poll/124922/Presidential-Approval-Center.aspx

[Hawkowl]

81. What it means

What it means is: "DO NOT FUCK WITH SOCIAL SECURITY". I think it is that simple. A politician can not spin the cuts in any positive fashion. That is why they call it the "third rail". It is an allusion to touching the third rail of many urban subways which is the electrical power rail that will instantly kill you.

If Obama wants to bump his poll numbers up to 65 -70%, he simply has to make a terse public statement saying that all of SS and Medicare cuts are off the table and that seniors have sacrificed enough. It is time for corporations and the rich to make their sacrifices. Problem solved, re-election guaranteed with solid majorities in both houses.

[roguevalley]

55. yeah. to paraphrase my sister, his shit stinks less than the others

but it still stinks. Ask the hungry kids and seniors that are benefiting from his 'benovalence'.

[alp227]

59. See my reply 17, I got previous presidential lowest apprv ratings from Gallup website nt

[No Elephants]

70. That is usually the case. When Bush's numbers were low, Democrats in Congress had even lower

numbers and the lowest belonged to Republicans in Congress.

The surprise for me in this poll is that Reid's number is lower than Boehner's. That is a departure from the Bush era.

[coalition_unwilling]

86. By contrast, I attended a virtual town hall by telephone for my

Representative, Karen Bass in California's 33rd District, a few nights ago. My opinion of her shot up immensely as a result of listening to her calmly and coolly explain the debt crisis situation.

Bass took over the seat of Diane Watson when Watson resigned.

[Freddie Stubbs]

89. Unfortunately for President Obama, none of those individuals are running against him

He is likely to face someone who is not involved in the debt debate.

[Scurrilous]

4. Great news!!1!

:thumbsup:

[bluedigger]

5. Well, let's be honest.

Who wouldn't want to flush the entire lot of them down the toilet. They're all useless.

[jzodda]

6. not surpising

I wonder if we could go back 2-3 weeks and instead of Obama trying to be the adult in the room he decided to use the bully pulpit to come out swinging like a boxing champ where his numbers would be.

Instead of compromise he threatened the 14th amendment like Clinton advised him to use.

Instead of telling people to contact Congress he just threatened unilateral action or put forth his own plan first for a vote-a plan with tax increases and cuts to defense. It could have made it through the Senate at least (maybe)

Instead we have had this bizarre week where a few dozen house members hold the gov hostage.

[Fearless]

8. +1000

I'd add coming out strongly in favor of NOT cutting social programs and decry Republicans for wanting to cut ONLY that.

[doc03]

10. +1000 more

[harun]

12. Needs to be more agressive against the GOP

Right now he looks more on their side than on the dem's side.

[jzodda]

16. Check this out

Jesse Jackson: Obama should have been tougher

http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0711/60268.html

[harun]

44. Completely right. Thanks for the link. Obama should be out there saying military

bases are going to start closing oversea's if the debt limit isn't increased.

[Amonester]

64. Oops. Watch out for 'the bus' again... Sure I hope not, but still...

Impossible to know in advance which 'side' of him will prevail.

[Divernan]

84. Jesse knows how to fight - not some please-like-me beach bunny like O.

"Jackson criticized the White House for agreeing too readily to take items such as war spending, taxes on the wealthy and corporate profits off the negotiating table, so that the only option left was cutting programs that assist the needy.

As a result, he said, extreme right-wing voices have been able to drive the debate.

“I think they’ve gotten used to watching him at some level give more ground,” he said, listing handouts to insurance companies in the health-care reform act and the extension of the Bush tax cuts as examples. “They feel they can keep pushing and he’ll keep giving. They have not seen a stiffness.”

The president could have begun by issuing an ultimatum — that if Congress didn’t act, he would act unilaterally. “To me, that line needed to be drawn in the sand earlier."

Read more: http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0711/60268.html#ixzz1Tcf2Neo4

I can only imagine how some of Obama's most prolific spinners/supporters are conflicted because they can't call Jesse a racist!

[Liberalynn]

77. +1 Million

[bob4460]

11. Hey Mr. President

This is a direct reflection of the YOU saying that you are open to Social Security and Medicare cuts!!!! We elected YOU to send a message and you LOOK like you are ready to "compromise" with the Republicans and give them the whole farm,PLEASE LEAD US out of this mess that the whole country is in,that we know you did not make,and be one of the greats or keep "compromising" and go down as one of the mediocre Presidents.

[SoapBox]

13. Ya know...I've got to agree with you.

...he's well spoken...he's well statuered...he's calm...

Which all seem to be things that so many people hate. They seem to want panic and screeching and screaming and "reality-tv" types.

BUT, the second things go to hell, then they are mad.

Let's face it, Americans are dumb and getting dumber by the day.

Now about those poll numbers on The Boner, CrazyShelly, CrazySarah, ChinlessMitch, and their ilk? ...let's compare Tit For Tat!

[sendero]

43. The folks who think Obama is underperforming..

... are not dumb, everyone else is.

[still_one]

14. I just want to point something out, the poll neglects to give numbers of republican in Congress

approval ratings, or Congress in general

It also neglects to indicate what that same public feels about tea baggers

A poll compared to WHAT?

An opponent?

This is an insidious way to get people to think it is all about Obama

I do not disagree with your points on SS and Medicare, it is outrageous that they are even on the table, but I als want to point out this poll is a distortion the way it is presented

[JDPriestly]

62. Maybe the poll did not ask about approval of the Republicans.

I don't know if it is the same poll, but I used to get the e-mail polls. They generally asked about Obama but not necessarily about others in politics.

[still_one]

71. Perhaps, but without that in context, and with all the media hyping it up, it presents a distorted

view

I suspect the teabaggers and the republican party in general has even lower poll numbers

[fascisthunter]

50. Some will try to claim that isn't true

I implore folks to ignore them.

[Cool Logic]

15. The last time checked, Congress was in the teens.

Most everyone is dissatisfied with the inept Representation they have.

On the other hand, this is what most everyone voted for.

[malletgirl02]

27. Divided Government

Yes, the people wanted divided government, and that is what we got.

[Auntie Bush]

35. They wanted dumb teabaggers to get in there and mix things up...they succeeded!

[alp227]

17. Other presidents have had worse approval ratings...

http://www.gallup.com/poll/116677/presidential-approval-ratings-gallup-historical-statistics-trends.aspx

In June 1979 (30 months), Carter had 28% and lost to Reagan in 1980.

In January 1983 (25 months), Reagan had 35% but was re-elected in 1984.

In June 1993 (6 months!!!!), Clinton had 37% but was re-elected in 1996.

The month before the 2008 election, GW Bush had a 25% rating.

I'm starting to think that 2012 might be a repeat of 1980 unless a surprise happens after the weekend.

[TrollBuster9090]

30. I was around in 1980, and I have to say there is nobody who views Obama the way ppl viewed Carter.

The Iranian hostage crisis and the energy crisis were the two main reasons. We don't have a hostage crisis at the moment, and people seem to have gotten used to a PERPETUAL energy crisis. So...

Speaking of the Iranian hostage crisis, and the Vietnam war for that matter, in both cases the Republicans were committing treason by negotiating with either the Iranians or the north Vietnamese to not cooperate with the Democratic administration to make their re-election less likely. Sounds like treason to me, but nevertheless, given their history of doing this, somebody should be looking into the possibility of collusion between Republican presidential candidates and the S&P ratings agency.

[former9thward]

41. Those are two conspiracies that don't hold water.

The Iran hostage allegations were investigated by Congress and dismissed (unless you believe the Congressional Democratic leadership was part of the conspiracy also). Where is your link to the north Vietnamese? That is a new one.

[alp227]

58. the president of Iran said so...and it was known well beforehand a release would follow the election

Bani-Sadr, in U.S., Renews Charges of 1980 Deal (NY Times, May 7, 1991):

"Abolhassan Bani-Sadr, the former President of Iran, is renewing his three-year-old charges that the Reagan campaign struck a deal with Teheran to delay the release of the hostages in 1980. The allegations have recently been given a fresh life by news articles in the United States.

"Mr. Bani-Sadr, who was Iran's President for much of the 444-day hostage crisis, is in Washington to promote a book originally published in France in 1988 that asserts that secret negotiations occurred. But in an interview today, Mr. Bani-Sadr said he had no firsthand knowledge of such talks."

And why would the Iranian government decide WAY IN ADVANCE to release the hostages after the 1980 election?

And I don't know too much about the Vietnam thing right now, I'll look into that later.

[former9thward]

76. His "story" came out in 1991.

The Senate in 1992 and the House in 1993 both investigated the allegations and both found there was no evidence to back up the conspiracy theory. It's just made up crap. I prefer to go with facts but maybe that's just me.

[wisteria]

18. I am sure it will be back up again. I can't blame people with all of this Republican BS going on.

They are doing everything possible to help President Obama with our economy. I honestly believe they would rather see people suffer than see the economy get better before the 2012 election.

[Imajika]

22. Do you think things are going to get better?

This debt limit nonsense has obviously been a stupid distraction, but if it weren't for that the other news of the day was flat out horrible. 1st quarter GDP revised down to .4% and 2nd quarter at only 1.3%? When 2nd quarter is revised we may have slipped back into negative growth and a full double dip. Things are bad, Obama is definitely going through a rough patch. Still a long way to go till November 2012. We've really gotta hope this economy turns around.

[wisteria]

63. I believe they will. What needs to happen is that Democrats support the President

and denounce the tactics of the Republicans. They are doing everything in their power to derail our precarious economy.

[Imajika]

74. Why do you believe things will get better?

The debt limit nonsense had nothing to do with 1st quarter GDP dropping to .4%. It had nothing to do with 2nd quarter GDP coming in at an anemic 1.3% - and that's before the revisions which will almost certainly be down. Most economic indicators are sliding backward too.

In what way are things getting better? The stimulus has run out. Aid to the states is done. There is nothing left in the hopper to boost demand.

Personally, I think one of the best things that could happen would be for the Republicans to cause such a mess by not raising the debt ceiling next week that we just might be able to make them completely own the crappy economy. The teabaggers would have been better off, strategically speaking, if they'd just given the President a debt ceiling increase and sat back and watched the economy flounder. Without more programs to stimulate demand, it appears to me the economy is just going to continue to suck. What we needed was a massive stimulus, double what President Obama pushed through. What we got was a watered down, crappy stimulus full of gimmicky tax cuts that failed to really life the economy. At this point, chaos next week without a debt ceiling increase might be the best thing that could happen.

[Mosaic]

19. Mr. Obama

Remember your roots, think for yourself, you are a Democrat. Democrats: Party of the People, remember? Don't fall for the framing, talking points, and dirty tricks of the other side. You know they just want to try to defeat you. Be a leader. Say no to compromise, forget being a Senator, be a Governor and govern for the common good. God bless.

[Fearless]

20. Had he come out strongly in favor of not slashing social programs it wouldn't have.

[bvar22]

25. Social Security wasn't named "The 3rd Rail" by accident.

Who will STAND and FIGHT for THIS American Majority?
You will know them by their WORKS,
not by their excuses.

[the_chinuk]

29. How the President Could cure this problem in a hot moment:

Stop treating Republicans like good-faith negotiators. Do what the public elected him to do (strong single-payer, strong unions, a real stimulus). He had the whole country behind him, and he squandered it. Unlike the political capital W claimed he had, President Obama's was real … and he never spent it.

FDR was hated by Republicans and the upper-crust … but he did what he had to, got his way no matter what stood in his way … and the people of the USA gave him not two, but four terms (which was the reason there's a two-term) limit … Republicans didn't ever want a popular Democrat in that long ever again.

Just do what the country is really calling him to do … and stop treating the Tea Party republicans and Republicans in Washington like they have any viewpoint worth respecting.

When things start to improve in the country, the President's countrymen (and -women) will give him his due

[wtmusic]

31. Exactly. Take the gloves off.

You can't play "nice guy" with these people.

[TrollBuster9090]

38. In fact, that's pretty much what's going to happen.

Boehner will send his bill to the Senate where it will be voted down. Reid will then pass a Senate bill that looks moderate by comparison and send it back to the House where it will be rejected on Monday, leaving no solution to the debt ceiling crisis by the deadline.

Obama will then swoop in and do the following:

1. Issue an executive order saying the Treasury will pay bond holders first (thus avoiding a default or a bond rating downgrade), medicare and social security second, and (perhaps) military salaries third, and all else will be an effective government shutdown. He'll point out that this situation can't last longer than a week before the Treasury has to stop paying either Social Security or military salaries. He'll present both chambers of Congress with a bill of his own, that is probably similar to Reid's bill, and say "you've either got to pass this, or come up with a compromise on your own. And if you don't I'll be 'forced' to raise the debt limit on my own using the 14th Amendment."

2. After a week of squabbling they still won't reach a compromise, and Obama will present them with a one line, clean bill raising the debt ceiling by 2.5 trillion dollars and say they either have to pass it clean, or he'll do it unilaterally using the 14th Amendment. Either they'll pass a clean bill raising the ceiling, or he'll use the 14th Amendment.

In fact, the Republicans know that his using the 14th Amendment to raise the debt ceiling without support from Congress would be upheld in the Supreme Court, because the five conservative activists on the Supreme Court are owned by big business' who are in the bond market, and who would be hurt by a downgrade or default. So, the 14th Amendment threat is actually quite significant. ie-"Either you can give me a clean debt ceiling raise when I ASK, or I'll do it WITHOUT ASKING, and once that decision is upheld in the Supreme Court, no president will ever have to ask AGAIN!"

[Doctor_J]

52. You must be thinking of a different president

this one doesn't have the nerve to do such things

[placton]

32. "you can fool some of the people..."

people just may be catching on to the winger in Dem clothing we elected president?

[LetTimmySmoke]

33. He is trying to please everyone and is ending up pleasing no one.

It's not much more complicated than that.

[w4rma]

39. But the DLC mantra is that if noone is happy, then that is what they should be doing.

POLITICALLY DUMB, unless they're in it for the idle wealthy/big business money and that's all they want.

[Middle finga]

36. I guess those so called independent voters

were not swayed by all of his compromising and his "grown up" routine

[Name removed]

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[rpannier]

42. Best line came from the comments section

Considering we just found out that the economy is even worse than before, I don't think those comparisons make sense. Clinton and Reagan had major recover at their backs. It doesn't look like that can possibly happen with Obama. Unless the GOP nominates a psycho, he's toast.

***********
Except for Huntsman, that's all the Republicans have running

[blueclown]

45. This has nothing to do with the debt ceiling vote.

It has everything to do with the high unemployment rate and tepid (GDP) growth.

[chaperonio]

80. +1 n/t

[Morizovich]

46. Unrec

The poll that matters is more than 15 months away: Chill!

[Bozita]

47. Pretty goddamn misleading headline

It led me to think Obama's numbers are lower than GWB's were in late October of 2008.

[KeyserSoze87]

48. If this country elects a Republican president next year...

I'm moving to the UK.

[Safetykitten]

57. "If"? It's a certainty.

[KeyserSoze87]

79. I don't want to think of it as a certainty, because it's the scariest thing I can possibly think of.

[fascisthunter]

49. Gallop, Scallop.... but I would expect this

He has touched the third rail.... arrogance.

[Doctor_J]

51. Here's how to get some mojo back

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=102&topic_id=4940665&mesg_id=4940672

[Scurrilous]

87. Kick

:kick: