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Lars77 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-30-11 03:07 PM
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Gadhafi forces perched children on tanks to deter NATO attacks
Source: NBC

Both sides in Libya's ongoing civil war are being accused of abuses, with forces loyal to fallen leader Moammar Gadhafi blamed for a vast array of possible war crimes and rebels said to be indiscriminately targeting black people.

Pro-Gadhafi troops perched children on tanks to deter NATO attacks, human rights investigators said in a report on Tuesday. It was part of a pattern of rapes, slayings, "disappearances" and other war crimes that they said they found.

The report by Physicians for Human Rights, titled "Witness to War Crimes: Evidence from Misrata, Libya," is based on interviews of residents in the embattled city of Misrata conducted in June.

A popular uprising in Libya in February against Gadhafi's 42-year-old rule resulted in a civil war with rebels backed by a NATO bombing campaign from the air starting in March.

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provis99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-30-11 03:11 PM
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1. that makes no sense.
Why would he think that would stop NATO from bombing people?:crazy:
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ret5hd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-30-11 03:44 PM
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2. the only thing sillier would be to perch a wedding party on the tanks.
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sudopod Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-30-11 05:02 PM
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6. I suspect that would have an effect rather the opposite of what was intended, lol. nt
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Dokkie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-30-11 05:00 PM
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5. Not even the baby Jesus would
deter those guys from seizing Libyan's oil fields
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marasinghe Donating Member (754 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-30-11 06:20 PM
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7. yep; probably better off if they taped barrels of crude to the tanks.
screw Gaddafi & screw NATO: same scumbags - opposite sides.
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joshcryer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-30-11 10:04 PM
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8. NATO's Rules of Engagement in Libya were very high, very restricted.
Misrata was besieged for about 3 months after NATO got involved (about 4 months total), because NATO wouldn't fire upon any tanks or equipment within the city boundary due to the possibility for collateral damage. Eventually the French had the idea to just http://www.news24.com/Africa/News/France-using-concrete-bombs-in-Libya-20110428">drop concrete training 'bombs' on the tanks, and within two weeks or so Misrata was liberated. There are images floating around of these massively crushed tanks, it's unusual because you expect fire damage and whatnot but what you get are tanks crushed and flipped over...
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StarsInHerHair Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-30-11 04:08 PM
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3. there is evidenc that the "rebels" are ethnically cleansing Black Libyans & migrant workers
Edited on Tue Aug-30-11 04:10 PM by StarsInHerHair
http://andrewgavinmarshall.com/2011/08/26/lies-war-and-empire-nato%E2%80%99s-%E2%80%9Chumanitarian-imperialism%E2%80%9D-in-libya/

..."While many Western media outlets initially tried to frame the rebels as simply, “lawyers, academics, businessmen and youths,” trying to sidetrack the Islamist elements within the rebel groups, eventually the story started to slowly break, though still largely downplayed. The TNC includes many former Libyan government officials who defected to the rebel camp at the start of the fighting. As the Wall Street Journal reported at the time, “some of the officials are known in Washington and European capitals as secular, pro-Western and pro-business,” and that, “Islamists among the rebels have been largely kept out of the public spotlight, though they are believed to have support in eastern Libya and have assumed key functions in the rebel efforts.” The head of the TNC is a man named Mahmoud Jibril, a Western-educated political scientist and economist who previously headed Libya’s National Economic Development Board, “with the mandate to boost foreign investment and economic growth in country.”<30> By putting Jibril at the head of the TNC, the Council is “sending a message to foreign companies that the future Libyan government is interested in foreign investment and privatization.”<31> According to a diplomatic cable released by Wikileaks from 2009, the U.S. ambassador to Libya wrote that Jibril “gets the U.S. perspective,” as in a meeting with Jibril, he had “highlighted the need to replace the country’s decrepit infrastructure and train Libyans,” and “requested American public and private assistance to do so.” Jibril, in his pitch to the ambassador, stated that Libya “has a stable regime and is ‘virgin country’ for investors,” leading the ambassador to conclude: “we should take him up on his offer.”<32>"...

..."Another report explained that the assaults against blacks have “revived a deep-rooted racism between Arabs and black Africans” in Libya, as “discrimination is common not only against migrant Black Africans, but also against darker-skinned Libyans, especially from the south of the country.” The Executive Director of the Afro-Middle East Centre in South Africa told IPS in late March, “Against this background, one needs to be a little wary of the accusations of ‘African mercenaries’ or even ‘Black African mercenaries’ that have been bandied around.” Further, he reported that, “about one and a half million Sub-Saharan African migrants and refugees, out of a population of nearly two to two and a half million migrants, work as cheap labour in Libya’s oil industry, agriculture, construction and other service sectors.” As it turned out, “this is not the first time Libya’s most vulnerable immigrant population has fallen victim to racist attack,” as in 2000, “dozens of migrant workers from Ghana, Cameroon, Sudan, Niger, Burkina Faso, Chad and Nigeria were targeted during street killings in the wake of government officials blaming them for rising crime, disease and drug trafficking.”[61"...
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trud Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-30-11 04:12 PM
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4. Gee, just like the Israelis
strapping Palestinians to the Israeli army cars to "deter" stone throwers.
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