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Turborama (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-01-11 01:34 AM Original message |
Newspaper editor turns himself in over Hugo Chávez slur |
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99th_Monkey (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-01-11 02:27 AM Response to Original message |
1. Is Hugo slipping? Or is this just a pack of RW lies? ~nt |
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UnrepentantLiberal (747 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-01-11 05:02 AM Response to Reply #1 |
8. I'm gonna guess right wing lies. Give the Chavezistas time to |
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99th_Monkey (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-01-11 01:56 PM Response to Reply #8 |
24. I tend to think that as well, that there's much more to the story |
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rabs (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-01-11 02:34 AM Response to Original message |
2. The montage |
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Posteritatis (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-01-11 04:18 AM Response to Reply #2 |
4. I do find it offensive, but lese majeste charges offend me more. (nt) |
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Nuclear Unicorn (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-01-11 02:06 PM Response to Reply #4 |
26. Indeed. |
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Spider Jerusalem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-01-11 04:27 AM Response to Reply #2 |
5. I'm imagining that in the US, and it's very hard to imagine a newspaper editor being arrested. |
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melm00se (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-01-11 05:37 AM Response to Reply #5 |
9. there are degrees in Freedom of the Press |
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trud (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-01-11 08:09 AM Response to Reply #5 |
16. UK |
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Spider Jerusalem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-01-11 08:37 AM Response to Reply #16 |
18. The media can be barred from reporting things on the grounds of national security |
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provis99 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-01-11 06:31 PM Response to Reply #5 |
41. filming a cop in Illinois could get a reporter 75 years in prison. |
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melm00se (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-04-11 05:32 AM Response to Reply #41 |
61. 2 things |
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NYC Liberal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-01-11 04:30 AM Response to Reply #2 |
6. If anyone made a similar cover with those figures (Hillary et al) on it, |
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chrisa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-01-11 09:10 AM Response to Reply #2 |
20. Nobody would face military arrest over it, much less even police arrest. |
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Hosnon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-01-11 02:22 PM Response to Reply #2 |
30. Outrage over sexism is warranted. Arresting the editor is not. nt. |
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joshcryer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-01-11 09:53 PM Response to Reply #2 |
49. If I were Venezuelan I'd be more outraged by Fonden's missing $29 billion. |
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DerBeppo (452 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-03-11 06:05 PM Response to Reply #2 |
56. Say that was on a magazine in the U.S. |
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Judi Lynn (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-03-11 07:14 PM Response to Reply #56 |
58. Should the Venezuelan government subsidize anti-US government newspapers, tv, etc.? |
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dipsydoodle (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-01-11 03:51 AM Response to Original message |
3. Rec'd |
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digitaln3rd (533 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-01-11 04:43 AM Response to Original message |
7. So much for freedom of speech. |
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SkyDaddy7 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-01-11 06:13 AM Response to Reply #7 |
12. +1... |
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harmonicon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-01-11 05:24 PM Response to Reply #12 |
39. People really need to stop using the word "supporters". |
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FLPanhandle (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-01-11 05:47 AM Response to Original message |
10. "Authorities had sought García while investigating him on charges of insulting public officials" |
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cali (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-01-11 05:57 AM Response to Reply #10 |
11. it is a curious thing indeed. |
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joshcryer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-01-11 09:44 PM Response to Reply #10 |
46. Excellent point. We know that the largest opposition website there is monitored frequently... |
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totodeinhere (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-01-11 07:32 AM Response to Original message |
13. If "insulting public officials" were a crime in the USA there would be very few journalists left who |
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Freddie Stubbs (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-01-11 07:41 AM Response to Original message |
14. Venezuelan are obviously not civilized enough to enjoy freedom of speech like we do |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-01-11 02:12 PM Response to Reply #14 |
28. Provincial much? The law in Venezuela is different |
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trud (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-01-11 08:05 AM Response to Original message |
15. I wouldn't mind throwing Fox et al in jail, if they got sprung promptly |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-01-11 08:19 AM Response to Original message |
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chrisa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-01-11 09:09 AM Response to Original message |
19. Venezuela - A right winger's dream |
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99th_Monkey (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-01-11 01:50 PM Response to Reply #19 |
23. If that's true, if RWers love such conditions so much, |
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chrisa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-01-11 02:27 PM Response to Reply #23 |
32. Because they want to be the ones in charge and ripping their own country off. |
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Judi Lynn (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-01-11 02:36 PM Response to Reply #32 |
33. Spend some time trying to learn something about Venezuela FIRST. |
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99th_Monkey (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-01-11 03:08 PM Response to Reply #33 |
36. +100 nt |
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joshcryer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-01-11 09:41 PM Response to Reply #23 |
45. The "Venezuelan right wing" is left of our moderates. |
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Nuclear Unicorn (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-01-11 02:09 PM Response to Reply #19 |
27. You're calling EFerrari a RWer? |
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fascisthunter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-01-11 05:31 PM Response to Reply #19 |
40. lol... you wouldn't be saying shit if it really was |
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rabs (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-01-11 10:03 AM Response to Original message |
21. In Latin American countries ... |
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Judi Lynn (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-01-11 02:05 PM Response to Reply #21 |
25. Thanks for pointing out the truth of the matter.It makes far more sense to look for the real info., |
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Nuclear Unicorn (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-01-11 02:12 PM Response to Reply #21 |
29. There are laws and there there is what's right |
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Judi Lynn (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-01-11 02:23 PM Response to Reply #29 |
31. "What's right?" You will determine that Latin America is wrong? Really? |
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Nuclear Unicorn (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-01-11 02:43 PM Response to Reply #31 |
34. Do you believe in human rights even if those human live in far away countries? |
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Judi Lynn (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-01-11 02:56 PM Response to Reply #34 |
35. You need to collect yourself and try to grasp the elements of the story. |
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Nuclear Unicorn (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-01-11 03:13 PM Response to Reply #35 |
37. Re-read it. Still reads the same to me |
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joshcryer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-01-11 09:48 PM Response to Reply #37 |
48. Ahh, you miss the overall concept. Basically populist Latin American countries... |
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Nuclear Unicorn (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-02-11 07:16 PM Response to Reply #48 |
54. I suppose some would suggest these nations are populist |
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Posteritatis (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-01-11 03:22 PM Response to Reply #31 |
38. In this case, wielding laws that criminalize insulting the government? Yes, they're wrong. (nt) |
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joshcryer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-01-11 09:45 PM Response to Reply #21 |
47. Abortion is illegal in many Latin American countries, I suppose we can't be critical of that... |
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UTUSN (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-01-11 10:07 AM Response to Original message |
22. KR8 now he's turned self in, he'll soon stop "insists he's innocent"!1 n/t |
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Justina For Justice (39 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-01-11 06:33 PM Response to Original message |
42. Headline Here False, Editor Defamed, Salaciously, VE Women Officials. |
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Judi Lynn (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-01-11 06:44 PM Response to Reply #42 |
43. What a difference the TRUTH makes, Justina For Justice. Such a little detail, |
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rabs (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-02-11 12:02 AM Response to Reply #42 |
50. Excellent post |
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DerBeppo (452 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-03-11 06:15 PM Response to Reply #50 |
57. Even if those three bullet points are 100% true, |
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Judi Lynn (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-03-11 07:17 PM Response to Reply #57 |
59. You would not be allowed to publish your claim the President is a pimp and his female employees |
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christx30 (774 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-04-11 12:06 PM Response to Reply #59 |
63. You might not |
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Hosnon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-04-11 12:34 PM Response to Reply #59 |
64. Yes you would. |
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msanthrope (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-05-11 05:00 AM Response to Reply #59 |
67. You would be able to publish that in America. Without governmental reprisal. |
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Turborama (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-02-11 06:33 AM Response to Reply #42 |
51. You need to read LBN's rule #4, if you haven't already |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-02-11 02:31 PM Response to Reply #51 |
52. It's true, though. People just see the name and they start salivating. |
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joshcryer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-02-11 07:41 PM Response to Reply #52 |
55. lol, says the "Juan Cole is CIA" believer |
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msanthrope (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-05-11 04:38 AM Response to Reply #55 |
66. Juab Cole is CIA? Who knew? |
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Judi Lynn (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-02-11 04:51 PM Response to Reply #51 |
53. That would be one of the lightest "broadbrush attacks" I've ever seen. |
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Turborama (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-04-11 02:23 AM Response to Reply #53 |
60. It is not a "claim against the post which doesn't hold up"... |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-04-11 12:43 PM Response to Reply #60 |
65. Not broad but limited and observation, not attack. |
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alphafemale (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-05-11 05:59 AM Response to Reply #42 |
68. And...a low post count Chavez bullet-pointer shows up...as expected |
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unkachuck (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-01-11 08:44 PM Response to Original message |
44. also, maybe.... |
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Bacchus39 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-04-11 11:54 AM Response to Original message |
62. here is the "illegal" cover the the news mag |
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