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MrCoffee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-09-11 10:58 AM
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Longshoremen clash shuts Northwest ports
Source: Seattle Times

TACOMA — A federal judge said he will not tolerate any more violence in a labor dispute between a Longview grain-terminal operator and Longshoremen, and put the U.S. Marshal's Service on notice to enforce an injunction aimed at restoring the peace.

While U.S. District Judge Ronald Leighton said there are legitimate issues at stake between the International Longshore and Warehouse Union (ILWU) and EGT Development, thuggish tactics employed by hundreds of union members and supporters at the Port of Longview on Thursday are not acceptable.

Meantime, a series of wildcat actions stopped work Thursday at ports in Seattle, Tacoma, Everett and Anacortes, but this morning a Port of Seattle spokesman said operations at Seattle terminals have returned to normal.

Early Thursday morning, at least 500 Longshoremen and sympathizers stormed the Port of Longview and broke windows in the guard shack, according to Longview Police Chief Jim Duscha. As men wielding baseball bats and crowbars held six guards captive, others cut brake lines on boxcars and dumped grain, the chief said.

Read more: http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/localnews/2016144477_longshoremen09m.html
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Mr Deltoid Donating Member (694 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-09-11 11:23 AM
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1. Unions are the only buffer we have left between us and the fascists
Time for unions to RISE UP
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Proletariatprincess Donating Member (527 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-09-11 11:32 AM
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2. I agree.
And I make a distinction between property damage and thuggery. Thuggery is violence against people. But to the bosses, property is more valuable than workers so they always over react and call it violence when only their property has been attacked.
Screw 'em.
Up the UNION!
Trust the ILWU to show the way.
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mahatmakanejeeves Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-09-11 12:31 PM
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4. Thuggery is violence against people. ...
Edited on Fri Sep-09-11 12:35 PM by mahatmakanejeeves
But to the bosses, property is more valuable than workers so they always over react and call it violence when only their property has been attacked. ... Trust the ILWU to show the way.


As men wielding baseball bats and crowbars held six guards captive, others cut brake lines on boxcars and dumped grain, the chief said.


Nope, no violence here. If it's all the same to you, I'd rather not have the ILWU show me the way.
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DrunkenBoat Donating Member (584 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-10-11 05:09 AM
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13. The chief was lying. No one held anyone captive, no brake lines were cut.
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valerief Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-09-11 02:23 PM
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7. Just as corporations are people, property is people, too. To the elites, anyway. nt
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FreedomVoice Donating Member (35 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-09-11 02:50 PM
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8. Its UNION vs UNION here
Per the article the ILWU is mad that another union is working at the facility... I don't see how Union VS union violence is helping our cause. This is really bad press for any labor movement IMO.
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Nostradammit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-09-11 03:24 PM
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9. It's Union VS scabs.
Nice try, though.
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aggiesal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-09-11 05:33 PM
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10. Welcome to DU ...
But with only 20 posts, and posts like your Union .vs. Union post,
you're going to be labeled a RW Troll.
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ProgressiveProfessor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-10-11 05:02 AM
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12. Poster is quite correct
There seems to be union labor on both sides of this one. Quite odd
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DrunkenBoat Donating Member (584 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-10-11 05:13 AM
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15. The poster doesn't know enough about the dispute. That;s what happens when you only read the msm.
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ProgressiveProfessor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-10-11 05:36 AM
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16. Try this from a ILWU website
http://www.ilwu.org/wp-content/uploads/2011/07/DispatcherJULY2011lores.pdf

First page, top of the third column:

Union collusion
In an effort to circumvent the
Port of Longview’s contractual obligation
to hire ILWU members, EGT
announced plans on July 17 to hire
an outside contractor that would
employ members of the Operating
Engineers Local 701. This collusion
by Local 701 with EGT sparked
widespread criticism from all segments
of the labor movement including
the area’s Building Trades. A local
official of the Operating Engineers
even expressed concern


That does seem fairly odd...
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DrunkenBoat Donating Member (584 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-10-11 05:38 AM
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17. Not if you understand that Local 701 is a company union.
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DrunkenBoat Donating Member (584 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-10-11 05:12 AM
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14. NO, IT'S NOT. EGT contracted with General Construction Corp, which has its own
"company union".

EGT did so because they first tried to use non-union labor & got called on it (they signed a contract to use the Longview local) -- so the company union was their second choice.

There's no "union v. union violence".
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TBF Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-09-11 11:34 AM
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3. Solidarity with ILWU -
fucking capitalists call us "thugs" while they rape and pillage world-wide. Screw that.
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jerseyjack Donating Member (369 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-09-11 02:01 PM
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5. The Natives Are Getting Restless.....
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safeinOhio Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-09-11 02:18 PM
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6. Forget calling out the US Marshal's Service.
That would cost tax dollars that are not off-set with other spending cuts. Just call out the anti-labor teabaggers for that battle.
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quakerboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-09-11 08:13 PM
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11. Hows about this for a solution:
If there are legitimate issues at stake, and the good judge wants to prevent further incidents, what say he address those issues with his judicial powers, and then there would be no need for incidents. Justice delayed and all that.
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