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Seedersandleechers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-11-11 04:48 PM
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Kansas doctor faces hearing over abortion referrals
Source: Kansas City Star

TOPEKA | A disciplinary hearing beginning Monday in Kansas is expected to scrutinize how one physician arrived at second opinions allowing the late Dr. George Tiller's clinic to go ahead with late-term abortions for young patients.

Dr. Ann Kristin Neuhaus faces allegations that she did inadequate mental health examinations before referring patients to Tiller's clinic in Wichita. A complaint before the State Board of Healing Arts deals with her care for 11 patients, aged 10 to 18, all at least 25 weeks pregnant, who received abortions from July to November 2003.

Tiller was among a few U.S. physicians performing late-term procedures when a man professing strong anti-abortion views shot him to death in May 2009. Two months before, Tiller had been acquitted on misdemeanor criminal charges that, in relying on Neuhaus for referrals, he wasn't truly getting the independent second medical opinion state law required for many abortions past the 22nd week of pregnancy.

Neuhaus, from the small town of Nortonville, about 30 miles north of Lawrence, is a former abortion provider herself who came under medical board scrutiny in the past. She doesn't have an active medical practice, but her Kansas license allows her to provide charity care, which she does.



Read more: http://www.kansascity.com/2011/09/11/3135183/kansas-doctor-faces-hearing-over.html



I can't believe it. They are trying to take this Doctor's license away because she worked with Tiller. What a fucked up world!
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MichiganVote Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-11-11 05:04 PM
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1. More hate for women. This country hates women.
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Gin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-11-11 05:21 PM
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2. sure....a 10 year old should have that baby....maybe they should look
into who impregnated a ten year old.
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saras Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-11-11 05:59 PM
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6. Why? I'm sure they know perfectly well. It wouldn't surprise me if they were involved somehow.
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Sarah Ibarruri Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-11-11 05:51 PM
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4. Yes, it does, and we can thank Bible bangers for that. nt
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CBHagman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-11-11 05:39 PM
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3. A pregnant 10-year-old?
That almost made me stop reading. 10 years old and pregnant.
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Capitalocracy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-11-11 06:27 PM
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8. And what they're questioning is her method of evaluating the damage to the patient's mental illness
that not getting an abortion would cause. With a 10-year-old, it's a no-brainer.

Actually, I think the case could be made that denying an abortion to anyone who wants one has the potential to cause severe distress and mental illness.
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proud2BlibKansan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-11-11 06:29 PM
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9. Just last week I heard about a 9 year old who had twins
:scared:
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No Elephants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-13-11 03:35 AM
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27. Hormones in food often result in very early puberty. among other things.
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SoapBox Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-11-11 05:55 PM
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5. Kansas...just another State of Hate like Arizona and Florida.
Edited on Sun Sep-11-11 05:58 PM by SoapBox
Save the fetus under ALL circumstances but let's Kill and Execute anyone out of the womb!

Twisted? I think so.

And she was dealing with girls aged 10 to 18?

So why isn't the focus on WHO got any girls under 18 pregnant?

ESPECIALLY the 10 year old????

What kind of sicko and perverse state isn't looking into that big time? OH ya...Kansas!!!!!
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proud2BlibKansan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-11-11 06:34 PM
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10. KS went after Tiller over a 9 or 10 year old patient
Tried to accuse him of not reporting the rape of a child.

But she had been raped in California, and referred to Tiller by child abuse authorities in that state.

Devil's in the details.
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proud2BlibKansan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-11-11 06:17 PM
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7. OMG
This is absolutely terrible news.
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salin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-11-11 07:04 PM
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11. horrified to think, let alone write the following:
has the State of Kansas just unofficially given a death warrant (give Dr. Tillers fate) to this Dr.?
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dogmoma56 Donating Member (329 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-11-11 07:09 PM
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12. my niece had to carry a dead fetus for 6 weeks because Dr's were afraid of Partial Birth threats..
the so called "Partial Birth" procedure is for Dead Fetus's

she was severely traumatized and ended up not being able to have children afterwords
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HockeyMom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-11-11 07:13 PM
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14. How do you kill something that is already DEAD?
Carrying a dead fetus can be TOXIC to the woman.
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booley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-12-11 05:14 PM
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22. You're assuming
.. that the "pro-lifers' making these threats are rational.
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dogmoma56 Donating Member (329 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-12-11 08:10 PM
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25. it was about the time Tillman was murdered, every doctor she saw went on vacation.
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dogmoma56 Donating Member (329 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-12-11 09:44 PM
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26. it was about the time Tillman was murdered, every doctor she saw went on vacation.
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HockeyMom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-12-11 06:31 PM
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24. Breastfeeding CAN kill your unborn children
Yeah, we all hear of women conceiving while still nursing, BUT how often do we hear of the "side effects" of nursing? Oh, yeah I can cite instances, my sister-in-law included, of women getting pregnant while nursing, but how many people can tell you how many embryos are lost because of nursing? I can. I had been breastfeeding my daughter for 3 months, when I went for my scheduled checkup. My doctor did a pelvic exam and asked me if I had resumed my periods. No, not really. I had some staining, but nowhere near a normal period. He then said to me that it appeared from his exam that I may have actually conceived, but apparently because of my nursing, it could not sustain another pregnancy, and my staining may have been a "miscarriage". Ok, right to lifers. One of the SAME effects as taking the BC pill. Ovulation occurred, but the uterine lining thinned out and could not sustain implantation of another pregnancy. Maybe god/mother nature knows MORE than you? If a woman is sustaining life of an ALREADY BORN child, that takes preference over another unborn life?

Something for THEM and all there life from conception laws. The lives of the ALREADY BORN mean MORE.
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defendandprotect Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-12-11 02:42 AM
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20. The actress Debbie Reynolds had that experience TWICE pre Roe vs Wade ....
And she seems to have lost the second pregnancy because she was forced to carry

the first one to term tho fetus had been dead for months!

And now -- here are are back there again!!


This is fascism -- plain and simply!

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HockeyMom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-11-11 07:11 PM
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13. Get a DNA blood sample of the fetus
End of story. That would be enough to prosecute a rapist of a 10 year old. You don't need to FORCE her to give birth to bring her rapist to justice. What century are these people living in?
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blackspade Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-11-11 07:34 PM
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15. Why do fundies hate women so much?
Sorry, retorical question.
Answer? Because women are awesome and fundies are not.
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RKP5637 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-11-11 08:53 PM
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16. It's easy for the fundies. Fundies hate everything except hatred. n/t
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duhneece Donating Member (967 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-12-11 03:58 PM
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21. That's THE question we need to respond to
because I see the values typically considered 'women's' like compassion, nurturing and relating are considered weak, second-class, less-than.
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blackspade Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-12-11 05:44 PM
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23. Yep!
And I see that folks who consider these things to be a sign of weakness to be fucking stupid.
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orbitalman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-11-11 09:06 PM
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17. K & R
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tcaudilllg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-11-11 09:14 PM
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18. Terrorism against women
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defendandprotect Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-12-11 02:33 AM
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19. Easy to intimidate the rest of these doctors now ... RW political violence succeeds again -- !!
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No Elephants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-13-11 03:43 AM
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28. How thorough do you need to be to conclude a 10 to 18 year old who wants an abortion may be mentally
affected, short term or long term, if she is denied the abortion?
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ehrnst Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-13-11 07:49 AM
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29. The fact that you need an excuse NOT to remain pregnant at age 10 is sick.
Edited on Tue Sep-13-11 07:50 AM by ehrnst
Or any age - it's not like women are clamoring to get abortions at 22 weeks.
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