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alp227 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-21-11 12:47 AM
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8 Children Abducted by Mother, Police Say
Source: The New York Times

Eight children were abducted from foster care in Queens on Monday during a visit with their mother, the police said on Tuesday.

The children, seven boys and one girl, ranging in age from 11 months to 11 years, were divided among three foster homes in Queens. They were brought to the Forestdale child agency in Forest Hills for an authorized group visit with their mother, the police said.

But when the mother, identified as Shanel Nadal, 28, left Forestdale about 4 p.m. Monday, the police said, she took her children with her.

The Administration for Children’s Services said it was working with the police to find Ms. Nadal. The agency said arrest warrants had been issued for Ms. Nadal as well as the children’s father, whom the police identified as Nephra Payne, 34. A police statement said Mr. Payne might be traveling with Ms. Nadal and their children in a black 1996 Chevrolet Suburban.

Read more: http://www.nytimes.com/2011/09/21/nyregion/8-children-in-foster-care-were-abducted-by-their-mother-police-say.html
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Horse with no Name Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-21-11 12:54 AM
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1. My first thought was Octomom
I hope they get these kids back safely.
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burrfoot Donating Member (801 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-21-11 02:06 AM
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2. Just a thought-
If the kids were brought to the agency for a visit, that generally (at least in my experience) means that the visits were required to be supervised. If the visits were supervised, how did the mom take off with all 8 kids? I wonder if someone who was supposed to be supervising them, wasn't?

I suppose it's possible that the visits were allowed to be unsupervised and it was somehow just more convenient to hold them at the agency- but from what I've seen, the vast majority of people prefer their visits to be out in the community somewhere if they aren't legally required to be supervised by the agency.


Curious.
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no_hypocrisy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-21-11 06:12 AM
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3. My very first thoughts too.
I legally represent a mother in NJ whose 5 children were removed and she visits them once every two weeks under heavily supervised conditions. They're in the room with her at all times and tell her what she can say, what she can't say, tell her not to whisper, etc.

How they even left without the receptionist/clerk noting it is remarkable.
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newfie11 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-21-11 06:35 AM
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4. 8 kids???
I would bet after 3 days with 8 kids she will return them.:crazy: :crazy: :crazy: :crazy: :crazy:
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southernyankeebelle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-21-11 07:23 AM
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5. Why were the kids in foster care in the first place?
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Mad_Dem_X Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-21-11 07:23 AM
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6. 28 with 8 kids?!
:wow:
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brendan120678 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-21-11 08:15 AM
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7. 7 boys, 1 girl, all with the same name.
"The children were identified by the police as Nephra Payne, 11; Nephra Ceo Payne, 10; Nephra Shalee Payne, 6; Nephra Umeek Payne, 5; Nephra Yahmen Payne, 4; Nephra John Payne, 9; and Nephra Rahsul Payne, 6. The girl, Nefertiti Payne, is 11 months old"
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qanda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-21-11 08:25 AM
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8. Oh my!
That could get confusing.
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Maine-ah Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-21-11 08:32 AM
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9. I would think that they go by their middle names.
it would make sense.
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PassingFair Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-21-11 09:11 AM
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10. Nephra a dull moment in THAT family. n/t
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TheDebbieDee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-22-11 12:38 AM
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11. ! : ^ p
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