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hue Donating Member (571 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-27-11 08:51 AM
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Saudi woman to be lashed for defying driving ban
Source: BBC News

A court in Saudi Arabia has sentenced a woman to 10 lashes for breaking the country's ban on female drivers.


The woman, identified only as Shema, was found guilty of driving in Jeddah in July.

Women2drive, which campaigns for women to be allowed to drive in Saudi Arabia, says she has already lodged an appeal.

In recent months, scores of women have driven vehicles in Saudi cities in an effort to put pressure on the monarchy to change the law.

The sentence comes two days after the Saudi leader King Abdullah announced women would be allowed to vote for the first time in 2015.

Two other women are due to appear in court later this year on similar charges, correspondents say.

Read more: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-15079620



What could be the hideous motivation for such a law??

How insecure/paranoid/misogynistic the males must be!!
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no_hypocrisy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-27-11 08:58 AM
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1. Motivated by restricting movement of women.
Chinese aristocracy did it by binding the feet of girls and deforming their skeleton.

If women in Saudi Arabia could drive, they also could get other ideas of independence such as not having to vet all their decisions by a male relative.
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vets74 Donating Member (714 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-27-11 09:07 AM
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2. They've all seen "Grease."
Jus' sayin'....
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vets74 Donating Member (714 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-27-11 09:30 AM
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3. When the Hadj picked up "voices of the Martyrs" fakery...
all this craziness multiplied out of control.

In the West the craze for seances and speaking ghosts peaked in the period after WW I. Exposing those frauds was a hobby for Harry Houdini. The voices are real. The ghosts, not so much.

After WW II this gimmick found its way to Saudi Arabia. The formerly solemn ritual of circling the Ka'aba was speeded up and sounds were piped in to simulate communication from those in Paradise.

The Ka'aba is a black cube known to sci fi fans as the model for The Borg cube spaceship. It sits at Mecca and a meteorite is housed inside. As a religious item/icon/whatever the Ka'aba is used in rituals. It's place in Muslim belief is similar to the Shroud of Turin for Catholic Christians.

Once the faithful were exposed to vocal proof for Paradise and Martyrs, extreme beliefs came to characterize Saudi preaching. Jew hating had arrived in the late 19th Century -- this also became a community obsession.

Letting women drive ??? Never had a chance.
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WhiteTara Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-27-11 09:47 AM
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4. Pregnant, barefoot and in the kitchen.
Xtians on steroids.
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Harmony Blue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-27-11 09:50 AM
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5. How can they justify exposing a woman's
Edited on Tue Sep-27-11 09:51 AM by Harmony Blue
flesh to just be flogged? Isn't that contradictory to their belief structure?

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saras Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-27-11 10:30 AM
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7. No. Belief systems aren't troubled by contradictions.
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pam4water Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-27-11 09:59 AM
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6. Vote but not drive :?
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femrap Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-27-11 10:55 AM
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9. No voting until
2015...I think that is what I read.

Get in your cars, women, and run them down. You ain't got nothing to lose but your chains.
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udbcrzy2 Donating Member (572 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-27-11 11:06 AM
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12. Seems like it should go hand in hand n/t
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hue Donating Member (571 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-27-11 10:38 AM
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8. apparently there is no law against women driving,
just a religious edict by some insane religious leaders that women shouldn't drive.
Of course no where in the Qur'an does it forbid women to drive thus there really cannot be a religious reason for the ruling.
Yet tho there is no law against it women can still be lashed and need to go to the courts to appeal it.

:crazy:
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riderinthestorm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-27-11 10:57 AM
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10. Their religious edicts can be law.
The Quran (in their interpretation) says that women are to be subject to men's directives. Since the men have decided women are not supposed to drive, then they are technically following the Qura (ie, the men can make up whatever bullshit they want and the women have to follow it - voila! instant Quranic law!)

Furthermore, I'd stipulate that women in burqas should not be driving anyway - it's completely unsafe.

So allowing them to drive opens up a whole other can of worms so to speak for the Saudi's oppressive patriarchical system.
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hue Donating Member (571 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-27-11 11:08 AM
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13. things like this always reinforce my suspicions that religions are
a prime means for men to control women. It seems the more conservative the religion (and politics seems to be morphing into a religion),
the more strenuous the control over women.

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classof56 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-27-11 10:59 AM
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11. Lashed? Good Lord!
I assume this will not be done in public, as that would require exposing a woman's nakedness to onlookers. Or perhaps they'll just lash her face. But wait, that would necessitate removing her veil, right? I realize it's a cultural thing, but the horror of it is mind-numbing. And yes, that's exactly where the Dominionists, theocrats, right wing uber-religious would take us back to if we let them.

Tired Old Cynic
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immoderate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-27-11 11:14 AM
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14. All rules are off for a good lashing!
:bounce:

Got to see some blood. If you are devout enough, you can ignore the rules "for the good of the cause."


--imm
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avaistheone1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-27-11 11:34 AM
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15. Does this mean we will declare war on Saudi Arabia?
The abuse of women in Afghanistan is one of our so called reasons for our war on Afghanistan.
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truebrit71 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-27-11 12:13 PM
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16. Thanks goodness these open-minded, free-thinking people are our friends....
:sarcasm:
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jmowreader Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-01-11 10:24 PM
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17. You'll be happy to know the sentence was lifted
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