Pelosi: GOP didn't object to tea party taunts

[TomCADem]

Source: Sacramento Bee

House Democratic Leader Nancy Pelosi says she agrees with protesters from Wall Street to Washington who are saying most of the country isn't getting a fair shake from the financial and political establishments.

Republicans are criticizing the protesters' message as divisive. Asked to respond, the California Democrat said on ABC's "This Week" that the GOP didn't object to the tea party's in-your-face protests against members of Congress in last year's elections.

House Majority Leader Eric Cantor this week said he was concerned about the "growing mobs" and criticized those who support them. He said condoning the demonstrations amounted to supporting the "pitting of Americans against Americans."

The loosely-affiliated movement amassed on Wall Street and in Washington in recent weeks is protesting the power of the financial and political sectors.


Read more: http://www.sacbee.com/2011/10/09/3970673/pelosi-gop-didnt-object-to-tea.html

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Kudos to Nancy Pelosi for pushing back on Republican demands that Democrats apologize for the Occupy Wall Street Protestors and GOP demands that Democrats condemn efforts to hold Wall Street accountable.

Republicans have been demanding that the protestors leave Wall Street alone, stop being "jealous" of the rich, and demonstrate in front of the White House instead like the Tea Party.

[perdita9]

1. Kindergarten Teachers are 'thugs' and 'parasites'

I don't remember Cantor speaking out against those criticisms but he's got his panties in a twist over anyone saying anything negative over the psychopaths who tanked the economy.

Weird.

[cui bono]

31. Yeah, he doesn't mind pitting Americans against American Union Members. n/t

[onehandle]

2. Where's Eric Cantor's apology for armed teabaggers stalking President Obama at public events?

I will wait patiently.

[wordpix]

27. 'xactly. Cantor picks & chooses which mob he likes & apparently it's the armed ones

[SoapBox]

3. And again...for those "Dems/Indies" that say that they are not voting for PBO in 2012...

Are you SERIOUS that you would want to live in GOPBagger HELL?!?!

p.s...Go Nancy!

[Vincardog]

6. Are you trying to say that we must support our RW "leader" so we don't get their RW "leader"?

The only power the Tea Baggers have is to with hold their votes.
You would deny that power to the left?
If so how do you suggest we get our elected 'Leaders' to enact liberal policies?

[a2liberal]

13. This. (n/t)

[gateley]

14. He hardly qualifies as a RW "leader". I understand your

criticisms (and share them), but he's passed so many bills that never would have seen the light of day had THEIR RW "leader" been in the WH.

There's too many similarities, agree, but there's a world of difference, too.

[cui bono]

32. Not nearly a world of difference. One is feeding us a teaspoon of poison at a time

while the others would have us eating a cup at a time. One is just killing this country slower than the others would.

We'd like a POTUS that would rather give us sustenance than give us less of what the GOP is giving us because his penchant for compromise, which means giving in these days.

[libinnyandia]

53. Nader in 2012

Maybe Nader should run again in 2012. We can get more rw Justices, acouple more wars and more tax cuts for the wealthy to add to Nader's legacy

[mikeysnot]

64. good luck with that...

[defendandprotect]

81. Isn't it Obama who is has already given us more war and extended tax cuts for rich ... ????

Could have sworn that was him -- $120 BILLION in tax cuts for rich extended --

and we had to borrow the $120 BILLION at 1/2% higher rate of interest because of

the downgrading of our rating!!


2000 -- like 2004 -- and probably many elections going back to the late 1960's when

the computers began coming in -- were stolen by the RW.


And 2000 was one of the NOISIEST steals yet because they had to pull actually STOP

the vote counting in Miami Dade County of 120,000+ votes never before counted and

they did it with a near-violent fascist rally organized by John Roberts -- with

absolutely no interference by Florida police! hmmmm....


Finally, they had to call on the Gang of 5/Supremes to stop the recounts and put W

into the Oval Office.


And, Gore won 2000 --

[SFnomad]

102. Re: Nader in 2012

Nader already has given us 8 years of Bush ... hasn't Nader done enough damage to this country already?

[kimsarah]

47. Yup ...

... like expanding the Patriot Act and further eroding our privacy; expanding the wars and drone attacks; expanding the Bush tax cuts for the richest; like ramming through 3 more Bush trade deals this week despite strong union opposition; like issuing permits like candy to drill recklessly for more oil in the Gulf; like keeping Private Manning jailed while none of the banksters have seen the inside of a cell yet; like cracking down on those evil medical marijuana farms and distributors; like moving forward with the wonderful Tar Sands pipeline project; like continuing to back unregulated, poisonous natural gas fracking and more wonderful nuclear power plants; like dissing EPA and ditching the new ozone/smog regulations on a Friday afternoon at the end of a news week; like pushing for a weak jobs bill that will give our biggest tax-avoiding companies a corporate tax holiday to bring home $1.4 trillion without paying the required 35 percent tax rate; like bringing Larry Summers, Tim Geithner and Bill Daley to the White House from Wall Street; like getting rid of Elizabeth Warren; like ignoring advice from respectable experts such as Robert Reich, Paul Krugman and Dean Baker in favor of trying to please Wall Street and the Chamber of Commerce; like letting all Bush team members off the hook for the illegal torture policy and tricking us into the Iraq war; like continuing to dole out billions of dollars in contracts to wasteful GOP-backed defense contractors; like opposing a full audit of the Fed; like using intimidation to force of states to settle with the banks to give them immunity from prosecution for mortgage securities fraud; and yes, like pretending they don't make comfortable walking shoes anymore.
Tell me how any of this wouldn't please a RWinger.

[RUMMYisFROSTED]

51. But, but, but he brought in Immelt and Zelikow!

He's a left wing hero! :patriot:

[UnrepentantLiberal]

55. What kimsarah said.

For the 100th time, I drove all the way from Jersey City to Ohio to canvas for that arrogant liar. I was on cloud 9 when he won. I made excuses for him (he's got a plan)... Until he started pushing offshore drilling. That's when I knew I'd been conned. Since then it's been one right wing move after another from him. Did you see Lesley Stahl's piece on 60 minutes last night? (The Jobs Czar: General Electric's Jeffrey Immelt
How will GE's CEO Jeff Immelt help President Obama solve America's biggest domestic problem: unemployment? Hint: Half of GE's profits come from overseas.)

Those kid's aren't camping out in Zuccotti because they're bored and thought it would be fun. They're doing it because they know their voices aren't being heard, their votes don't matter.

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[defendandprotect]

82. K/R -- +1000% --

You forgot trampling single payer health care in back room deals with Big Pharma

and private H/C industry -- "to preserve the private H/C industry" --


Now that's a LIST!!!


Sadly -- !!


:hi:

[ronnie624]

125. *

:thumbsup:

[defendandprotect]

80. Differences are fading fast -- Obama -- NOT the GOP -- put Social Security, Medicare on the table .!

Obama trampled single payer health care in back room deals with Big Pharma

and the private H/C industry -- to "preserve the private h/c system" as

Koch Bros/DLC Rahm Emmanuel "crowed' about in telling business how grateful

they should be to Obama!


Obama extended tax cuts for the rich and then we had to turn around and borrow

the $120 BILLION to pay for them -- at 1/2% higher rate of interest because of

the downgrading!

80% of the public want an end to the wars --

74% and more want universal health care -- MEDICARE FOR ALL --

they are being ignored as part of the POLICY of the Dem Party now -- and they know it!!

[DonCoquixote]

15. simple

focus on the bloody Congress, which is where the power is. As much as you may hate it, every vote not given to Obama is a vote for Romney, but if you get progressives in congress, then they can move the country leftward.

[No Elephants]

38. The DNC and most of the Democratic Party, as well as Republicans, work to make

sure we don't get liberals in Congress.

[kimsarah]

49. If it were that easy

and hadn't already been tried, nobody would be protesting.

[RoccoR5955]

60. That's for sure. A vote for Nader or any other 3rd party is a vote for the RepubliCONs!

Even though it may not seem like much, it is quite a lot. I remember back in 1980, when I voted against Carter, and Reagan won. I will never ever do that again. As a matter of fact, I wish I could get my vote back from that election.

[defendandprotect]

83. Why? GOP only has the House and they're running EVERYTHING ... !!! ROFL

if this nonsense weren't so sad -- !!

Every vote for the "lesser evil" simply moves the party and Congress further to the right --

and we have decades of voting for the Dem "lesser evil" to prove that reality!!


If you truly want to see everything moved further to the right keep voting for the

"lesser evil" --

[bvar22]

97. "Every vote for the "lesser evil" simply moves the party and Congress further to the right "

So very true,
and that is WHY there are NO "Obama 2012" signs at the protests.



You will know them by their WORKS,
not by their excuses.

Solidarity99!
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[defendandprotect]

99. "...and that is WHY there are NO "Obama 2012" signs at the protests" ---

Always great to see you here -- !!

:hi:

[SoapBox]

23. Simply this...Obama or Perry (or Cain or etc.)?

Straight up or down...Which one?

Let's hear it.

I'll vote for Obama and Democrats, with consideration for no others.

[No Elephants]

39. I think the Republican nominee will be Romney, not Perry or Cain.

[socialist_n_TN]

63. That wouldn't matter.................

I'd vote for the corporatist Dem over ANY of the Republicans. Like I've always done. Of course, I don't think that voting for the lesser of two evils in today's political climate does much good on economic issues. As a poster above said, paraphrasing, you get fed your "austerity" poison a teaspoon (or tablespoon) at a time with one and a cup at a time with the other.

The Dems are marginally better on social issues.

But if we REALLY want "Change we can believe in" on economic issues, voting ain't gonna cut it. Militant action MIGHT, but even if it doesn't, it's our only chance.

[defendandprotect]

85. It's voters who have to change if we want change -- voting for the lesser evil ...

will only do what it has already done over 40 years or more --

it moves the party and Congress further to the right -- !!


Look at the masses of LEFT voters out on the street -- THAT is what will take

this nation to an independent candidate --

And by that I mean one who isn't pre-owned or pre-bribed by corporations!!


Rather than restoring regulations on capitalism, Obama has attacked what's left

of the New Deal -- and I wouldn't give him a new opportunity in 2012 to finish

the job!

A vote for Obama is sadly a vote for his taking us into another decade on wasr --

and a vote for the betrayal on single payer health care --

Two issues which could have begun to put America and her suffering citizens back on

her feet!!

[defendandprotect]

84. No -- it's no longer D vs R -- it's this liberal nation vs corporate/fascism and

those who aid and abet it --

Over the past 40 years, Dems have benefited as the "lesser evil" -- but those

votes have only moved the party and Congress further to the right --

If you want more of that, keep voting for the "lesser evil" -- !!

[redqueen]

As opposed to...?

What is your alternative?

[defendandprotect]

113. We have a huge liberal voting bloc -- have you seen the LEFT in the streets -- ??

We need two candidates who are anti-war and who strongly

support MEDICARE FOR ALL --

We need democrats who aren't pre-bribed and pre-owned by corporate money --

candidates we can implicity trust --

Phil Donahue -- Matt Damon -- Michael Moore -- Bernie Sanders -- Ed Schultz --

Elizabeth Warren --

and imagine many others who would qualify and be worthy of consideration --


Or -- you can keep on doing what you've been doing and expect things to be different?

[redqueen]

114. Are you suggesting an attempt to draft one of them?

... a write-in campaign? Something else?

[defendandprotect]

119. Rather I think it's up to a Panel to form and DRAFT someone .... and I've

suggested that here previously -- in fact, I've written to a number of these people

asking them to do that --

Remember at one point Michael Moore and Bernie Sanders were calling for a challenger --

I've since found out that Nader has formed a coalition -- which will be contacting 200

people to look at and find challengers -- so eventually, presume they'll come up with

a few challengers?


You can do it any way you want -- the idea is to come up with a "white hat" who wouldn't

need corporate money and where we would kind of have a word of mouth campaign --


You can't simply do a "write in" evidently -- seems it would be meaningless unless the

candidate was officially registered? Just more of the two parties doing everything they

can to block any competition.

But -- how about you -- any suggestions?

Any names to be offered?

[ooglymoogly]

116. +1 If there is no challenger, we need a credible and strong write in

campaign for Allen Grayson or Bernie Sanders. This may be our only chance to effect change and we have to organize and take it. OWS may just give us the bounce and backup we need to do this. 6 more years of pukelicon rule will kill this country.

[defendandprotect]

120. 2010 was certainly a warning -- strong message sent to Obama/Dems ... which

Obama not only ignored -- he reversed -- immediately saying that he was even more

ready to compromise with Repugs! :eyes:

Someone here probably has better info on this -- but it's my understanding that if

you do a "write in" -- that it won't officially count unless the candidate is

registered -- ????????????


HOWEVER, of course it would have an effect on both parties to see a massive write in

for someone like Grayson or Sanders --

and we would have to trust that the vote totals would be accurately reported -- i.e.,

knowledge of a massive write in would be counter to the interests of BOTH parties!



The LEFT are in the streets -- this is a liberal nation -- NO ONE IS GOING TO VOTE FOR

THE GOP -- and as someone else pointed out, the OWS people are not flashing signs that

say "Obama 2012" -- !!!

OWS isn't supporting either party -- and they know that Obama is Wall St. -- !!!

That is undeniable at this point!


Meanwhile, I'm not into political science -- and imo it's up to notables to give

leadership to finding a challenger and deciding how to do this -- a split ticket with

Socialists if we were lucky enough to get Bernie Sanders -- ???

Or our DRAFTING Alan Grayson ---

I think the corporate $$ behind Obama is a huge hurdle for any Dem challenger to jump over!!

That's a lot of money which can be turned to not only defeating a candidate, but demonizing

him or her!!

Any suggestions?

[ooglymoogly]

126. Yes you are right, I am only talking about sending a message and only in the primary

if there is no challenger. Many, even here, speak of not even voting...and many more say they will not be voting for 0 no matter what. Not voting, is not an option. If an alternative were created; then that, would be much easier to get the vote out on, for the primaries, which is paramount to getting a progressive Congress.

I have been talking to seniors here and they unequivocally will not vote for 0 and get into a wad at the very mention.

If the vote were strong enough for the write in, in the primaries and if we; by getting the disenfranchised, the disenchanted (who are legion), who say they are not even going to vote; out for progressive congress peeps and the write in of their hearts desire (Grayson or Sanders), that would send a deafening message to both parties and hopefully, we would get a solid majority in both houses to counteract 0's inevitable swing back to the right after the electioneering is over, or worse, the distinct possibility of a Romney win.

This would also set up Grayson or Sanders or even Elisabeth Warren for 2012, if she turns into a movement here, as I suspect she will.

[RaleighNCDUer]

110. At least you acknowledge that Obama and Democrats are two separate entities. nt

[ooglymoogly]

127. The choice will be 0 or Romney. The money changers have already decided. nt

[kimsarah]

46. A lot of people

have had enough playing games trying to get Dem leaders to do what they ought to do. I'm one of those "f*ing retards," and withholding votes is one of many options now.

[julian09]

103. Are you part of the repug voter repression regime?

[Roy Rolling]

56. we support policies, not people (only)

Progressives support progressive values and the leaders who promote and support those values. We are not hero-worshippers like the other side that support their "leaders", even if the leaders betray the values they profess to support.

Which means, as long as a candidate supports progressive vales they get our support. If a candidate strays, they risk losing support. Progressives are not hypocrites like the other side that supports their candidates for whatever position they take as long as the Republican overlords declare it holy.

"

[Amonester]

58. The POTUS is a dictator who can "enact liberal policies" now?

I thought he could only "put his signature on liberal policies" bills.

Silly me.

[obxhead]

69. It's his signature on Republican policy that is troubling.

He may not be able to dictate, but he sure as hell doesn't have to sign right wing policy into law.

The fact is, Obama only fights for center right and extreme right legislation. On all liberal policies he stands to the side to let them die a quick death.

[Amonester]

76. Then "manage" (through occupations) to elect a 99% Congress...

MAJORITY (in BOTH chambers), then FIRST: tell them to VOTE the 1% (stolen-from-the-99%) money OUT of politics, and send the passed ACT to the President's desk. Do you really think he will not SIGN it?

[defendandprotect]

87. Obviously, all we need is to control the House like the GOP ... then we can run everything -- !!

:rofl: -- :rofl: --

[Amonester]

100. Yes! =-)

What else would "work" given the fact that a peaceful revolt is not an armed rebellion...

[defendandprotect]

86. It is THIRD WAY POLICY "to ignore the base of the party" -- per Jonathan Cowan, Pres. Third Way --!!

The Third Way is now running the Dem Party --

and caught Jonathan Cowan, Pres. of Third Way on C-span one morning last week --

as he was relating that their stand is that "the base of the party is to be ignored" --

and that discussion and debate re populism or populist issues are "the equivalent of

Karl Rove propaganda of extremism" -- !!!


:eyes:



.... and certainly Obama has done nothing but ignore the base of the party --

[UnrepentantLiberal]

70. Tim Geithner Larry Summers Tim Geithner Larry Summers

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[NashVegas]

77. That's About What It Sounds Like

Nevermind that "PBO" had nothing to do with this particular bit of community organization.

[defendandprotect]

123. Great description of upside down thinking -- !!

[Mr Deltoid]

18. The teabaggers will never take over

There would be widespread unrest if they did.

[SoapBox]

24. However, LOOK at the ground that they have gained in many local positions...

and then you have the ones in the House and look at the chaos that they have delivered.

They CANNOT be taken lightly and people best understand that.

[defendandprotect]

89. Have you seen the pictures of the LEFT out in the streets -- ?

Obama is finished -- this is a cry for an independent candidate --

two candidates who aren't pre-owned and pre-bribed by corporate money ---


This isn't D vs R -- this is 99% vs the 1% elite/wealthy -- and it is only

wealth which has paid for the take over of government and press --


Not to mention RW political violence over more than 50 years --

also paid for with the wealth -- !!

[defendandprotect]

88. The Koch Bros. t-baggers are barely even a crowd -- !!

[UnrepentantLiberal]

20. We've been subjected to Tea Party hell thanks to Barack, Harry and Nancy.

[emilyg]

22. Correct.

[TomCADem]

30. Wow! DU and the GOP Are On The Same Page! Blame Democrats!

Give Wall Street and the GOP a free pass!

[cui bono]

33. That's exactly what Obama has been doing! Not only a free pass, he put Wall Street in the WH!!!

Or did you miss that part?

[TomCADem]

107. Obama Pushed Through Financial Reform Over Heavy Resistance

Elizabeth Warren was appointed to create the consumer protection agency. All the Republican candidates have vowed to repeal Financial Reform, particularly Mitt Romney, a former Wall Street exectutive.

Or did you miss that part?

[defendandprotect]

121. Did you miss that Obama dumped Warren at the altar?

And that not only is the legislation weak and almost meaningless -- Wall St.

is still fighting it and may succeed in watering it down even further!!

[TheEuclideanOne]

36. So what your line of thinking is on par with Obama and why we are in this mess.

In short, following your line of reasoning, the democrats could do essentially anything they want really. No accountability necessary and Obama has done everything short of saying "Don't like what I am doing, it doesn't matter because the only other option is them". There is no reason to be held accountable for anything, following your logic, because they other guys are that much worse.

So, yes, I do blame Obama, Pelosi and Reid for having the same mindset as people like you.

[kimsarah]

48. Sorry

Obama, Reid and Pelosi have already done that

[JoeyT]

52. Or we could blame them for buying him

and him for being bought, as well as Republicans for being Republicans.

Not all blame has to land on one person or side. There's lots to go around.

[defendandprotect]

93. +1000% -- OOPS! . . .

There's that other side of the Citizens' United coin again --

the problem of elites/corporations BUYING our government and candidates --

vs the problem of our candidates SELLING themselves to elites/corporations -- !!



:evilgrin:


:hi:

[Le Taz Hot]

62. We blame BOTH ;parties

and the bought-and-paid for institution our government has become. Wake up.

[defendandprotect]

92. Wall Street owns both parties -- and we need to target any pro-corporate candidate -- !!!

This isn't D vs R -- this is labor vs capitalism --

this is 99% vs the 1% who bought our government and press -- and candidates --

and the candidates who SELL themselves to corporations!

[bvar22]

98. It was The DEMOCRATS who gave Wall Street a "Free Pass".

They ARE to blame.


Paulson with Co-Conspirators




You will know them by their WORKS,
not by their excuses.

Solidarity!
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[defendandprotect]

122. K/R your post -- !!

[TomCADem]

29. So Herman Cain Is Right? We Should Demonstrate In Front Of White House?

It is amazing when DU and the right wing say the same things. Its not Wall Street! Its Barack, Harry and Nancy who are at fault?

[No Elephants]

40. Conyers said we should demonstrate in front of the WH before Cain said it.

[defendandprotect]

94. +1 -- We should actually resurrect Conyers' comments re Obama which were enlightening ....

to say the least !!!

Should be repeated now and then as a reminder -- !!!

[TomCADem]

108. That's a Lie, Cantor Is Not Telling Occupy Wall Street To Quit

And demonstrate in front of the White House like Herman Caid did. That is total rubbish.

[RaleighNCDUer]

111. Is it telling, that you can't distinguish Conyers from Cantor? nt

[defendandprotect]

91. +1 --

[bowens43]

50. we live there now, re-electing a bagger enabler won't change that.

I will no longer compromise my ethics. No more voting for the lesser of two evils.

My vote needs to be earned.

[FreakinDJ]

4. I can't believe the RATpubliCONs are opposing OWS

political suicide

[gratuitous]

5. It's why they're working overtime to disenfranchise as many people as possible

From voter ID laws to weed out po' folks who might vote Democratic, to a sudden concern over "voter fraud" which they can't quite show to exist, to rigging the e-voting machines, Republicans are working double hard to make sure as few people vote as possible. They can't win a fair fight, so they're doing their best to rig the system.

[Mosaic]

8. And we must not be wimps

And we must stop them. And we must not tolerate this in the future again, I think this is something we can justly get revenge for. The good thing is they stop people from voting for them too with their dirty tricks. Lose/lose for them.

[TheEuclideanOne]

37. Not at all. A big win for them. This, in fact, will leave them in perpetual power.

They don't stop people from voting that would vote for them. They are not just randomly stopping people from voting. They know who votes for Dems and Republicans and they are going after people that typically vote Republican.

Problem 1: As this political strategy takes hold and proves successful, they get more Republicans in power and more people to help extend this strategy.
Problem 2: There is no revenge. How do you figure this revenge is going to play out? The only thing we will be able to say is "Well, you may have won the election this time by preventing 12% of democrats from voting. But you just wait, in the next election when you prevent 15% of the opposition from voting, we will get revenge! If that doesn't work, just wait until the following one where you figure out how to eliminate an additional 3%!!!!"

[Historic NY]

7. Hey Ricky did you atone Friday or did you just give lip service?...

Those growing mobs just might end up at your door step.

[NICO9000]

117. I guarantee you he ain't atonin' for nothin'

I really hate that fucking douche bag. Cantor is an absolute disgrace to the Jewish people's rich history of social justice for all.

[Blacksheep214]

9. What would happen...

if like the Teabaggers, some of the OWS and other Occupy rallys had protesters wearing and bearing?

[Voice for Peace]

19. that's a very interesting question.

it might be kind of scary all around (except to people who are really comfortable around guns). I'm sure it would terrify some. Would probably get a lot of scary publicity. I don't like guns, personally, but I'd almost like to see it happen, to see how media and others would handle it.

[No Elephants]

41. Same thing that is happening now. Abusive arrests.

[NewJeffCT]

10. What do Occupy Wall St protestors have to apologize for?

and, the Democrats & Bernie Sanders who support them? Do they have to apologize for what exactly? Correctly spelled protest signage?

[pnwmom]

11. I'm frustrated that they didn't include exact quotes.

I'd like to know just what she said, and what the response was.

But GOOD FOR NANCY!!!

[BlueJazz]

12. I saw the short interview and one thing that was a "Stinger" was when she said>>

(something close to) "The GOP didn't seem so bothered when teabaggers spat on members of congress"

Ouch!! :)

[No Elephants]

42. But she quickly followed that with "But let's not go there." LOL! Good for her.

[tcaudilllg]

16. Not all conservatives support Cantor!

Some fear the effect of these insane policies on their families and friends.

[Bluenorthwest]

66. Then why are they not vocal in their opposition?

Their silence reads as support. If that bothers them they need to speak out.

[tcaudilllg]

75. They are afraid of the damage to their families.

[UrbScotty]

17. That's the thing about Pelosi - she tells it like it is.

No wonder so many people on the other side try to bash her.

[JDPriestly]

21. Pelosi is so, so right! Thanks, Nancy Pelosi.

[GETPLANING]

25. It's not the "pitting of Americans against Americans"

when the right does it...It's "freedom."

[SleeplessinSoCal]

26. Is there an "Occupy Eric Cantor's Airspace"? There should be.

[cui bono]

34. I won't volunteer for that. It could be lethal.

Pee-yew.

[Lars77]

28. Republicans knows that if they can paint Occupy Wall St as Dems they have destroyed the movement.

[No Elephants]

43. Why? More of the country is Dem than Pub.

[Lars77]

101. This movement is anti-establishment, which is why it takes on a kind of leaderless, organic form

It reminds me of the 1968 movements in Europe in a way. Having lost faith in the institutional left, feeling threatened by the right they did not trust anyone anymore.

Occupy Wall St. is more of a reaction to Obamas inability to deal with corporate greed and the corporate takeover of American politics than anything else in my opinion.

The Republicans, who are willing to go a long way in defending their corporate friends understand this, and is putting a lot of effort into painting this movement as an integral part of the institutional left in America. By doing that it would lose its credibility and simply become part of the everyday left-right bullshit discourse that solves nothing.

Just look at what they talked about at Bill Maher on Friday. He doesent get it at all, joining PJ O´Rourke in making fun of them for drumming etc, joking about personal hygene.

That is the true hallmark of a real progressive grassroots movement. The left is scratching their heads wondering who they are, while the Right are freaking out trying to lock them into the traditional left-right system.

[Enthusiast]

35. Kicked and recommended! nt

[No Elephants]

44. None of the politicians will admit that they are part of the kleptocracy.

Wall Street did not walk into the mint armed and take a trillion or two.

[kimsarah]

45. Same old same old

Nancy Pelosi has been part of the problem going way back. She and Harry Reid and Chuck Schumer and Chris Van Hollen and Dick Durbin are great at giving sound bites to fire up the Dem base, then turn around and become puppets for the O'ministration and help Republicans advance their agenda. Dems blame Republicans for blocking real progress; Republicans piss on O'drama and Pelosi and Reid while laughing all the way to the bank. Same game, a few different faces now, same results. Get your hopes up, have your chain yanked bigger and bigger each time. It may be fun for them, but I got tired of it a long time ago. It gets old.
In the meantime, it would be great if some occupiers could find Cantor's offices in the earthquake zone of Virginia and in Washington, and camp out until he comes outside, wipes off that smug fuck-face, and publicly apologizes for being disrespectful to decent people.

[spedtr90]

54. Cantor's afraid because things like this are happening!

His fear of the OWS protests is valid - this is why. This was a great start to my day!

The facebook page of a very anti-Obama, anti-liberal relative of mine had this picture posted. I expected it mocked the 99% protest, but read it anyway... I was so wrong! THIS IS GREAT! And his like-minded friends supplied many "likes". There is hope!


May Cantor not be allowed to "forget" his words and the fact he now calls to limit the free speech of others and belittle their concerns. Cantor praised the TP protests for what he choose to ignore about OWS:

"The people want to see a Washington that will listen again. They want to see leaders in Congress to make sure that their fellow government starts working for the people again and not the other way around."

“People are beginning to wake up and see a country they don’t really recognize,” said Cantor.

"People are really upset, they're frustrated at their economic circumstance, they're tired of the spending in Washington.

"These are people that are concerned about fiscal state of our country. I think people begin to understand that when they've been out of work as long as they have. We've got to address the fiscal situation, cut the spending and get people back to work.

[Iliyah]

57. Go Nancy!!!!

Its amazing how the blame always fall back on O and the Dems. Damn if you do damn if you don't. Just don't vote if you hate them ok, but gawd please don't come back and complain when shit hits the fan and sticks when the gopers are in complete power ok.

[SemperEadem]

65. cantor's myopia reminds of a snarky statement we used to say as kids:`

"they said 'brain'; you though they said 'train' and missed yours".

When the tea boogers were spitting on members of congress, the thugs couldn't understand what all the fuss was about.

At least the OWS people have enough decency and dignity to not show their utter lack of home training by spitting on people they don't like.

[customerserviceguy]

59. There's a diffference

between being in the faces of congresscritters, cops, and Wall Street 1-percenters, and being in the face of ordinary folks just going about everyday business, who are not part of the problem. The tea partiers have been fairly careful enough to avoid pissing off the latter group. When the OWS movement strays too far away from the targeted groups, and starts to step on the toes of the people that they need to convince to their side, they will begin to lose.

[SemperEadem]

67. the only toes those belong to are the toes of the 1%

The other 99% know what side their bread is buttered on.

[customerserviceguy]

68. Not necessarily

Already, the reich wing is working overtime to make the OWS protestors into the "dirty hippie anarchists" that will garner no support from those in the mushy middle. We need to remember to keep the focus of the protest on strictly the 1%'ers, the GOPigs are waiting for us to step out of line on this.

[SemperEadem]

71. that's nothing new... the reich wing has been at this game for years now

the people who know know whose side the OWS folks are on.

[customerserviceguy]

74. It's the people who are not in the know that I'm thinking about. n/t

[defendandprotect]

78. This is a liberal nation -- the people understand they are under attack by corporate/fascism --

that predatory capitalism is putting their lives on hold -- destroying any

opportunity for life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness in America --

How many under 40 even have pensions? How many are threatened by rising costs

of health care even when they are covered by company benefits, but less so every

day?

How many have unemployed family members -- people they are trying to help?

How many have suffered a number of layoffs already?

How many are fearful of joining the 25 million unemployed -- and the homeless?

Unless they're living in a FW propaganda bubble, they very well know what's going on!

[defendandprotect]

73. They SPIT on members of Congress -- they disrupted Town Hall Meetings ....

and as it turned out, the Koch funded t-baggers still weren't big enough to be

even considered a crowd -- had to be faked by Fox News!


I think the general public very well understands now that their interests are

anchored and underpinned by the interests of all labor --

Reagan's breaking of PATCO -- the controllers' union -- let's hope was one

such awakening for the public where the union was fighting to improve safety

on airlines and the public was lied to.

99% means just that -- it's about all LABOR and all working people -- anyone who

gets a paycheck should be paying attention.


Most understand that corporate/fascism is destroying any chance for life, liberty

or the pursuit of happiness.

[ZombieHorde]

61. Recommended. nt

[defendandprotect]

72. "taunts" ... ? Wasn't that T-baggers SPITTING on members of Congress?

You know, the gun toting t-baggers disrupting Town Hall meetings?

The same t-baggers that FOX could only make even look like a crowd by

faking the videos?

What's really bothering the RW is that the LEFT coming out into the streets shows

that we are 99% -- we are the many -- and they are the few -- indeed, the least of

the few!!

[Kurmudgeon]

90. If you want liberal things done, give the president a liberal congress.

Or bash him and get the next Bushbot and proxy war.

[defendandprotect]

95. Why? The Repugs only have the House and they control EVERYTHING ... !!!

That's all we need to aim for -- obviously!!!

:rofl: -- :rofl: --

[julian09]

106. Hell, they controlled everything, with only 41 senators, in first two years.

even without Dino's. House passed over 300 bills under Peloci only to die in senate, where 60 votes is needed to get anything done.
It is cheaper to buy 60 senators than 218 representatives to kill legislation.

[abelenkpe]

112. Have you read history at all?

FDR and Johnson both had far greater dem majorities in congress which is why they were able to pass more legistlation. Never in the history of our country have republicans fought so hard to block and obstruct all efforts made by democrats. Never. It is a shame that dems have been so weak in countering them. It sucks that part of the dem numbers are jerks like Lieberman and other lame blue dogs who vote with republicans. The only real answer is to work to get more liberal and progressive dems elected to congress. Otherwise you risk letting republicans make more gains.
No one has the time or money to launch a credible third candidate.

[redqueen]

115. Very well said.(nt)

[AsahinaKimi]

96. The Republicans doth protest too much, methinks.

Maybe they should start to Shut up and listen.

[PatrynXX]

104. Hey Eric....

you know the tea party has been trying to start a civil war. Thats not what OWS is trying to do. Dad - tea party fully expected a civil war by now. Maybe they'll get one. But OWS didn't start it.

[tnvoter]

105. someone else said it first ---

Cantor is a piece of Santorum.

[RaleighNCDUer]

109. Democrats don't need to apologize for the OWS protesters,

though they might consider apologizing TO them.

edit for typo

[GreenTea]

118. Tell it Nancy - Always tell it - We've got your back and love your SF liberalism

[ShockediSay]

124. Hey Cantor! What about the mob of corrupt politicians you belong to?

You know, the ones who represent their billionaire bankrollers as opposed to 99% of your electorate