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Freddie Stubbs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-14-11 07:56 AM
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Violence Breaks Out During ‘Occupy Wall Street’ March On Wall Street
Source: CBSNewYork

NEW YORK (CBSNewYork) – Just a few hours after protesters learned they’d be able to stay in Zuccotti Park indefinitely, violence has broken out as a group marched away from it.

A group of protesters were headed south on Broadway toward the New York Stock Exchange. The group swelled quickly and wound up in a confrontation with police as they tried to gain access to Wall Street. A standoff occurred.

Police motorcycles were shaped like a V and moved toward the protesters in the stand off. One man lost his balance, and was run over by a police motorcycle. Police descended on the protester and got him out from under the bike, but violence broke out.

1010 WINS’ Steve Sandberg reported police descended on some protesters, wielding their night sticks and batons. A police captain reportedly hurled his megaphone and wound up rolling around in the street with a protester. Sandberg reports he himself was pushed around by police.

Read more: http://newyork.cbslocal.com/2011/10/14/violence-breaks-out-during-occupy-wall-street-march-on-wall-street/
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callous taoboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-14-11 08:02 AM
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1. Hope this doesn't become the norm.
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Viva_La_Revolution Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-14-11 08:06 AM
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2. the norm seems to be otherwise.. denver getting evicted now
about 15 arrests, but from a crowd of over 1000 when it started last night. mostly peaceful protesters surrounding and watching
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IthinkThereforeIAM Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-14-11 12:00 PM
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14. Colorad State Patrol Captain wants "fake protesters" out...

... and says the real protesters can come back.

<snip>
Speaking at a 9:30 p.m. news conference forced indoors by chants and a crowd that surged onto the Capitol steps, State Patrol Chief James Wolfinbarger said that troopers could take action including issuing citations or making arrests between 11 p.m. and 5 a.m.

"We want people to go home," Wolfinbarger told a small group of media, his voice sometimes drowned out by people outside pounding on the Capitol doors and yelling. "We want this to end well so people can come back tomorrow and continue."

He also expressed concern that the original Occupy Denver protest has been "hijacked" by people whose goal is civil disobedience.

"The concern is this group that is out there in large part is not representative of the group out there at the start," Wolfinbarger said.
<snip>

<http://www.denverpost.com/breakingnews/ci_19112322>

This link was posted in another recent thread, but I wanted to point out that the authorities in Denver appear to be hip to the right wing agitators/agent provocateurs, ei... American Spectator article this past weekend.
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In Other News Donating Member (108 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-14-11 08:09 AM
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3. Exactly what FOX "News" has been waiting for.....
Were there any puppies injured? You know, just to make the story "jucier"?
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PassingFair Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-17-11 02:39 PM
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25. Someone call Parlock!
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justiceischeap Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-14-11 08:15 AM
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4. The comments have been overrun by Rightwing douchebags. nt
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think Donating Member (316 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-14-11 10:19 AM
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10. Drudge is probably linked to it. They love to create sensational
headlines then point their minions to someone else's story to overrun their comment sections with ravenous hate speech.

Using facts and common sense you can combat these types of hate wingers effectively. Pay no attention to their personal jabs and stick to factual information.

The people on the sidelines are the ones that count here. Hopefully they will see the facts and despise the hate. Don't expect vindication or support. Just be happy you rose above the haters and didn't fall into their tit for tat mean spirited attacks.

Ignoring the vile ones and sticking to pertinent information is one way to help people looking on understand what is really happening. Otherwise they may think this mindless bickering is how to engage an issue.

That's what the powers that be want to happen. They are less concerned about left or right, Democratic or Republican. They , the Koch brothers etc, just want us fighting with each other while ignoring them while they do their dirty work behind the scene.

Sorry, soap box moment....
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Kingofalldems Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-14-11 02:11 PM
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16. Yeah, and now DU is linked to it
I wonder how that happened?

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lunasun Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-14-11 12:18 PM
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15. They can not wait for the violence to live out the fantasy
here is one comment>
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THE NRA MEMBERS ARE LAW ABIDING AND ARMED

We will back up the Police if called on for help. We can patrol shopping centers, neighborhoods, and banks while the Police contend with the Woodstock Wall Street communist mobs.
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You would think people would be afraid of these whacks more then anything protestors are doing !!!

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thecrow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-14-11 08:24 AM
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5. From the article:
Police scooters were shaped like a V and moved toward the protestors in the standoff. One man lost his balance, and was run over by a police scooter. Police descended on the protestor and got him out from under the bike, but violence broke out. Some witnesses tell Sandberg the man was beaten during the arrest.

Sandberg reported police clashed with some protestors, wielding their night sticks and batons. A police officer in a white shirt, possibly a captain, hurled his megaphone and wound up rolling around in the street with a protestor, throwing punches. Other officers surrounded the white-shirted officer, throwing punches.

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Sounds like the police were the violent ones..the antagonistic ones.
But for people who only read the headlines, CBS does make it sound like it's the non-violent protestor's doing.

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Sanity Claws Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-14-11 08:37 AM
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7. That was the way I read it too
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formercia Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-14-11 08:25 AM
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6. Likely another provocation.
IMHO.

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Javaman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-14-11 08:39 AM
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8. violence didn't "break out", asshole cops instigated it. nt
Edited on Fri Oct-14-11 08:41 AM by Javaman
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Fuddnik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-14-11 08:48 AM
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9. Welcome to Chicago 1968
A police riot.

Fuck you assholes! We ain't leaving!
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lunasun Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-14-11 11:57 AM
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13. Yes but if enuf violence breaks out then it will be like Chicago '68 and they
can justify & give a 'shoot to kill' order like DaleyI did, and so many couch spectators will support the police against any violence no MATTER who started it!

Even rubber bullets hurt a lot-hoses will take u off your feet and then a lot of people who would have gone down to protest will stay far away
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Downtown Hound Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-17-11 10:10 AM
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18. So what if it ends up being like Chicago '68?
Nixon may have won after that, but the war was ultimately ended five years later. We're in this for the long haul. There's going to be bumps in the road.
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totodeinhere Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-17-11 10:48 AM
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22. Your analogy doesn't hold up. Yes Nixon won and the war eventually ended, but this time around
we cannot afford to see Romney or Perry or Cain in the White House. That would be the end of us.

And remember that Nixon's victory ushered in an era when the GOP won five out of the next six presidential elections.
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Downtown Hound Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-17-11 01:26 PM
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24. No, it won't be the end of us
Edited on Mon Oct-17-11 01:27 PM by Downtown Hound
If there's anything this movement has shown, it's that people can band together and unite and resist regardless of who is in power. If we stick together, then we can render the powers that be irrelevant in time.

This movement is bigger than any election or any sitting president. It's about taking our power back. And we don't need politicians or corporations to do it. And no douche bag reich winger that manages to lie, cheat, and steal his way into power can destroy that if we don't let them.
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No Elephants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-18-11 05:56 AM
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26. The cops should stop being violent.
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Earth_First Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-14-11 10:59 AM
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11. Doesn't sound like violence broke out at all. Sounds like the "white shirts" got overzealous AGAIN!
Again, with the taunting of protesters, the pushing, shoving, violent kicking, baton attacks.

Again, a member of the media covering/documenting the situation was assaulted.

But yet again, the headline implies that police violence was met with violence by protesters...
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malthaussen Donating Member (413 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-14-11 11:11 AM
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12. I think "overzealous" should be in quotes
Because it is obvious that the white shirts are doing exactly what they have been ordered to do. The official explanation may be "overzealousness," but official explanations aren't worth the paper they're written on.

-- Mal
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Downtown Hound Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-17-11 10:07 AM
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17. There's no social movement in history that has won anything without
Edited on Mon Oct-17-11 10:07 AM by Downtown Hound
a little chaos. If there's going to be violence, then let it come. It will only make us stronger in the end.
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totodeinhere Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-17-11 10:44 AM
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21. I disagree completely. If the OWS protests descend into violence then the bankers and
corporatists have won.
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Downtown Hound Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-17-11 01:23 PM
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23. They only win if you let them
Meaning, that if there's any violence, regardless of who starts it, if the left suddenly caves and tears itself apart over it, then they've won. If we stick together and support each other no matter what happens, then they will never win.
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No Elephants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-18-11 05:57 AM
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27. How do you stop cops from being violent?
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laureloak Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-17-11 10:38 AM
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19. Rioters infiltrated the protest. Get the word out.
Sieze the dialogue.
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No Elephants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-18-11 05:57 AM
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28. The cops were the violent ones.
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totodeinhere Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-17-11 10:42 AM
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20. This is a non violent movement in the spirit of MLK and Gandhi.
If violence occurred, it was obviously engineered by forces that are not friendly to this movement. And I doubt if the American people will be fooled by this.
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