U.S. Army troops found radioactive

[Tellurian]

WASHINGTON, April 19 (UPI) -- As many as 800 U.S. army soldiers are awaiting results to determine if they were exposed to radiation in Iraq, the New York Daily News said Monday.

The demand for tests was sparked by the newspaper's report that four soldiers from the 442nd Military Police Company are contaminated with radiation, likely caused by dust from depleted uranium shells fired by U.S. troops both in the Gulf war and in the Iraq invasion. The munitions are tipped with depleted uranium that is dense enough to penerate armor plate, but they also tend to pulverize on impact, spreading radioactive dust.

However, several independent uranium experts who reviewed early lab results from Washington's Walter Reed medical facility's doctors are questioning whether the Army's testing methods are adequate.

http://www.washingtontimes.com/upi-breaking/20040419-103255-1553r.htm

[genius]

1. big surprise - not

we warned everyone

[Erika]

4. Has everyone forwarded this to DC reps?

They need to. We have to start yelling.

[PartyPooper]

2. Could Junior have been "nuked" when he visited Iraq at Thanksgiving?

If so, maybe that's the only way we'll get real answers.

:shrug:

[JohnyCanuck]

11. Only if he held a radioactive turkey for the photo op n/t

n/t

[dennis4868]

3. so they found the WMD....

interesting :-(

[whistle]

5. Depleted uranium used in the weapons systems as...

...armor and ammunition. Our troops handle the stuff, the breath in the radio active vapors that are produced when these shells are fired and also when the armor begins to burn when hit. How do we tell our military that they are going to suffer the same fate as the Vietnam veterans who died from Agent Orange. BushCo is denying many of these new cases proper and deserved medical treatment. Medical casualties should be counted and reported also over the years.

[burrowowl]

6. The Pentagon was to have

all the troops given body scans before going over (IT didn't) so, I guess, IT can claim that the troops were damaged before going over.

[opihimoimoi]

7. Agent Orange was "harmless" too. One of my buddies died from that shit 6

years ago.

[Dover]

8. Could that be the REAL cause of the "Baghdad boils" we saw pictures of

On edit. I looked up the sand fly/parasite disease mentioned in the article on the Baghdad boils, and it seems to be accurate. Never mind.

[mouse7]

16. Boils are a skin infection, radiation destroys the immune system

People exposed to high doses of radiation are succeptable to the same rare infections AIDS patients are after their immune sytems are attacked.

[symbolman]

9. Remember

they refused to do a proper field physical PRE war -- they did that specifically to avoid problems like THIS later..

THe good old Pentagon..

I mentioned this in my ARMY OF ONE commercial, the longer Flash movie I first created.

http://www.takebackthemedia.com/onearmy.html

[mulethree]

10. Hillary was on the DoD about this

at that hearing wolfowitz was at the other day. Was saying the Daily news had tests done in Germany and Japan and that the Army should use such tests. Also not to keep sick soldiers waiting around for months with no effective treatment because the army doctors claimed to not know why they are sick.

I think it's about all she talked about at the hearing.

Of course theres thousands of cancers and birth defects among the Iraqi's in areas where DU was spread during the first gulf war.

The army says its a little bit poisonous, and a little bit radioactive but nothing to be worried about: http://www.gulflink.osd.mil/faq_17apr.htm
http://www.fas.org/man/dod-101/sys/land/docs/b04151999_bt170-99.htm


Others disagree:
http://www.bandepleteduranium.org/modules.php?name=Web_Links&l_op=viewlink&cid=4
http://www.phoenix.liu.edu/%7Elawrence/gl/duproject/duproject.htm

"Biochemists have known since the early 1960s that uranium binds very well to DNA. They used it often to prepare DNA for viewing in an electron microscope, because DNA by itself doesn't show up well. Only recently have scientists discovered that uranium will cause mutations and breakage in the DNA. Mutations and breakage of DNA can lead to cancer. Mutations and breakage of DNA in a developing fetus can lead to birth defects. Mutations and breakage of DNA in sperm and egg cells can lead to an unviable fetus that will spontaneously abort, or may survive to be born with severe deformities. Studies with lab animals have shown that this will happen to animals. Scientists study such toxicity effects in animals to better understand what might happen in humans"

[Dover]

12. Thanks for that documentation

I can see you've been on top of this story.....thanks.

[leftchick]

13. I saw one of those poor guys interviewed on tv....

He looked VERY sick. It is shameful how the * administration is treating our soldiers.

[hippywife]

14. This information also bears reposting

Video: "DU: Metal of Dishonor" See it if you can.
http://www.iacenter.org/depleted/metalpvn.htm

Just short exerpts of the government's findings on DU weaponry:
http://www.iacenter.org/depleted/dugov.htm

"Death By Slow Burn: How America Nukes Its Own Troops" Pretty informative article.
http://www.veteransforpeace.org/Death_by_slow_burn_071403.htm

[ZR2]

15. I thought it was called "depleted"

because it was no longer radioactive.

[mouse7]

18. No, just depleted of highly fissionable isotopes

Regular uranium is still plenty radioactive. It just has been processed to remove the U-235.

[hippywife]

19. It is still radioactive

with a half life of 4.5 billion years.

This was a political solution to our own environmental problems. What to do with all of that radioactive waste? Use it in bombs and drop it in someone else's backyard.

[hadrons]

17. sad that the big New York Daily News is the only paper ...

doing any sort of investigating on this

[maddezmom]

20. companion article~ Envirocare's big plan: Operation Iraqi waste

WASHINGTON -- Envirocare of Utah is exploring the possibility of building a low-level nuclear waste dump in the Iraqi desert to store uranium-tipped munitions and tank hulls and rubble contaminated by radioactive shells used by the United States.
~snip~
Hundreds of tons of weapons equipped with depleted uranium were fired at Iraqi tanks during the two Gulf Wars. The depleted uranium is a byproduct of nuclear reactors and weapons refinement and is 40 percent less radioactive than normal uranium.

The munitions are either large uranium-tipped bullets or rods of the depleted uranium that are inside special tank-killer munitions. Rather than losing shape like normal shells, the uranium's density keeps its shape as it pierces tank armor. As it passes through the armor the uranium also throws off sparks that can ignite fuels or ammunition inside the targeted tank.
Veterans of the first Gulf War have expressed concern that exposure to the depleted uranium may be to blame for illnesses they now suffer.
"Going clear back to the first Gulf War, there's low-level material that needs to be cleaned up, primarily depleted uranium," Barney said. "We thought it was protective of the public health there to centralize that in a disposal facility, to get it out of the neighborhoods."
~snip~
more: http://www.sltrib.com/2004/Apr/04222004/utah/159579.asp

[74dodgedart]

21. "Help is on the way"

Never trust a chimp

[ElsewheresDaughter]

22. Hilary Clinton is leading this fight for soldiers to be tested and treated

[UpInArms]

23. kick

:kick:

[bobthedrummer]

24. President Clinton opened an Office in the Department of Energy

created specifically with helping the survivors of classified radiation research and related projects of the Cold War-the Office of Human Radiation Experiments/OHRE-maybe they can help.
http://tis.eh.doe.gov/ohre/index.html

These non-consensual human experimental subjects often came from US military and military families, they have often been harassed trying to get help for themselves and loved ones.

The pick of the litter of human technological and scientific progress always has gone for weapons and war first, most medical advances began by treating the wounded from the battlefield-often never telling them they were being used as human experimental subjects.

I know how betrayed I felt as an American when I found out that our intelligence and national security agencies had real Nazis in them from their foundation in 1947 via The National Security Act of 1947.

http://www.spiritone.com/~gdy52150/ratlines.htm

http://www.infoage.org/paperclip.html

http://www.dc.peachnet.edu/~shale/humanities/composition/assignments/experiment/paperclip.html

Nazis, given jobs and identities as Americans working in national security, many of them sentenced to death by the Nuremburg commission-war criminals helping to battle godless communism-but, for God's sake- these were the folks that my father, his brother, a maternal uncle and all the other WWII veterans had fought against-and let's not forget the basic historical fact that America fought AGAINST militarism and fascism in two World Wars.

That was all done via our US Constitution and our Congress because it is the gravest decision a US President can make, to call for war. Yet George W. Bush calls himself The War President and has weakened the roles of the other parts of our government by promoting neo-conservatives and their political allies into key leadership positions. There's been a coup, of sorts-but it's failed imho.

Then I learned that prominent American families had been in business with the Third Reich-even during the war, and that some American companies products and services were used to streamline the Holocaust, which certainly did happen, folks-I remember my 5th grade German teacher, (a WWII vet that used the GI Bill to educate) struggling with PTSD and the fact that because he spoke and read German so fluently he was assigned to Nuremburg trials as an MP guarding Herman Goerring and others. He had helped liberate several death camps, I'm glad that he taught us kids so well about real history, while giving the message that the only good fascist/Nazi is a dead one. I still think he's right about that. No matter where they are or what flag they fly.
http://www.villagevoice.com/issues/0241/black.php

http://globalresearch.ca/articles/ROG309A.html