(Keystone XL) Pipeline warning dismissed (U.S. State Department has ignored a warning-academic study

[Omaha Steve]

Source: Omaha World Herald

By Joe Duggan

LINCOLN — When a university professor with expertise in hazardous waste sounds alarms about a proposed oil pipeline in Nebraska, the federal agency overseeing the project should pay attention.

That's the view of State Sen. Ken Haar of Malcolm, who questions whether the U.S. State Department has ignored a warning that the Keystone XL pipeline could pollute Nebraska groundwater much worse than predicted.

One line from the government's environmental impact statement raised the senator's ire, he said, because it struck him as out of place in a serious analysis.

Referring to the professor's report, the government document said, "This is simply the latest case of opportunistic fear-mongering, dressed up as an academic study."

Read more: http://www.omaha.com/article/20111016/NEWS01/710169911#pipeline-warning-dismissed

[lunasun]

1. there was a Cornell U report that when this was first looked at economically

the job increase from this pipeline was 4000( even that is debated) but somehow magically has increased to 600,00 - what prop


http://www.ilr.cornell.edu/globallaborinstitute/research/upload/GLI_KeystoneXL_Reportpdf.pdf

The new Pavlov dog word for anything now is -Jobs-

Did you hear the word jobs? better jump


and of course if it is to be squashed the head jerk term is - job killing!

terrorist = old
job killing= new fear

[wordpix]

28. 4000 to build the line, maybe but once it's built, there go those jobs

and you're right "JOBS!" is the new meme we must jump to, even if those jobs are temporary for a year or so.

[sakabatou]

2. *facepalm*

[EFerrari]

3. This is why we MUST stay out on the streets.

:mad:

[ooglymoogly]

19. +1 nt

[SpiralHawk]

4. The State Dept is totally in-bed with this foreign corporation

to bring this Massive Clusterf*ck project into being against the will of the citizens of the USA

And they wonder why they OWS groups say "the system is broken"

[CaliforniaPeggy]

6. You got that right!

I am so pissed off.

[SpiralHawk]

13. This Pipeline, Inc. screwjob is going to get Occupied

...up the wazoo - I got a feeling...

[truedelphi]

9. + 10,000 n/t

[wordpix]

26. yes it is and Hilary, we're watching your Dept.

Stop giving away our nation to the corpos.

[Nihil]

30. Stop saying that!

> Stop giving away our nation to the corpos.

The corporations have paid both Clinton and Obama a *lot* of money to
get your nation so there's no "giving away" involved at all, no sir!

You think politicians grow on trees or something?
That's some serious tax-deductible bribes "donations" we're talking about here!

:argh:

[wordpix]

32. in WaPo today, 3-pg pipeline story says Hilary didn't know about pipeline until recently because

it was relegated to a "deputy." You'd think the deputies would brief the head of the dept. but in her State Dept, I guess not.

[Nihil]

35. Plausible deniability until it gets to the "unstoppable" stage when she breaks cover.

Corrupt Corporatist Cronies.

Although not faintly accurate at the grass-roots level,
by the time they get near the top table there is truly
"not a dime’s worth of difference" between them ...

:mad:

[wordpix]

33. Link to Monday WaPo: "Obama allies’ interests collide over Keystone pipeline"

http://www.washingtonpost.com/national/health-science/obama-allies-interests-collide-over-keystone-pipeline/2011/10/11/gIQAr09cpL_story.html?hpid=z1

By Juliet Eilperin and Steven Mufson, Published: October 16

In May, environmental writer and activist Bill McKibben — pondering a simmering energy issue — asked a NASA scientist to calculate what it would mean for the Earth’s climate if Canada extracted all of the petroleum in its rich Alberta oil sands region.

The answer to McKibben’s query came a month later: It would push atmospheric carbon concentrations so high that humans would be unable to avert a climate disaster. “It is essentially game over,” wrote James E. Hansen, who heads NASA’s Goddard Institute for Space Studies and is one of the nation’s leading voices against fossil fuel energy. SNIP

“I’ve always felt uncomfortable that the State Department is heading this process,” Rep. Henry A. Waxman (D-Calif.), who at the time chaired the House Energy and Commerce Committee, said in an interview. snip

In mid-October, Clinton told an audience at San Francisco’s Commonwealth Club that she and others in the administration were “inclined” to give TransCanada the permit, adding, “We’re either going to be dependent on dirty oil from the Gulf or dirty oil from Canada.” more...

[iamthebandfanman]

5. $$$$$$$$

thats the only study they want to see.

[defendandprotect]

7. Corporate control of government/agencies means 'WILL OF PEOPLE WILL BE IGNORED" ... in fact,

Democratic Party is now under control of Third Way ---

and happened to catch Jonathan Cowan, Pres. of Third Way on C-span early one morning

last week --

Jonathan Cowan advised C-span viewers that the stance/policy of Third Way is that

"THE BASE OF THE PARTY IS TO BE IGNORED" ---

"and that populism and populist discussions/debates are the euqivalent of KARL ROVE

PROPAGANDA OF EXTREMISM" ---



:eyes:

[truedelphi]

8. However, a little bit of good news - one of the folks testifying

Against the Keystone XL pipeline a week ago last Friday, she mentioned how some eighteen months ago, Malia had asked her Daddy if he had gotten the hole rsulting from the BP spill fixed yet.

These two kids might grow up with a conscience, and be there to remind their Daddy of what he needed to do for everyone's environment, rather than the many times he sold it out for the sake of his "buddies."

[defendandprotect]

14. Good for Malia ....

but shame on Obama!

[SammyWinstonJack]

21. yea explain that one , Daddy.

:eyes:

[Enthusiast]

22. I watched that too.

I thought right then.....

[libinnyandia]

10. GOP & keystone

It's hard to believe, but if any GOP gets in, they will do even worse things. Its funny how all those Republicans in Nebraskap are concerned about the project, but wouldn't be too concerned if it were to he rerouted someplace else. Another NIMBY moment. If they are true Republicans,they shouldn't care about the environment:o)

[Uncle Joe]

11. Kicked and recommended.

Thanks for the thread, Omaha Steve.

[aggiesal]

12. What does the State Department have anything to do ....

with a domestic issue?

I thought the State Department deal with foreign issues.

[Omaha Steve]

15. The pipeline would cross an international boarder from Canada

That is the only reason.

[wordpix]

27. hello, Canada is "foreign"

[wordpix]

34. Henry Waxman asked the same thing; said State Dep. lacks env'l expertise to make decision: post 33

[seeviewonder]

16. I recently moved to western Iowa

and I am curious if this pipeline will affect my drinking water. Anybody have a map showing where they want to put it?

[Omaha Steve]

20. Not near you, but it is over drinking water for 8 states (Ogallala Aquifer see lower map )

[seeviewonder]

23. That makes me feel a little better.

It needs stopped, though, because it looks like that aquifer is a big deal. Polluting that would harm many people.

[NJCher]

25. drinking water?

This is a big farming area. It is watered with center-pivot irrigation which comes from the Ogallala aquifier. If it is polluted, there goes a big portion of the nation's bread basket.

This is why it is so crucial to stop this pipeline.


Cher

[WillyT]

17. K & R !!!

:mad:

:kick:

[Omaha Steve]

18. Protest photo from the article

[boppers]

24. Misleading headline, breaking rules on LBN posting...

"In response to questions about the divergent findings by TransCanada and Stansbury, the State Department plans an additional review of the pipeline risk analysis, Wendy Nassmacher, a spokeswoman in Washington, D.C., said Friday. The review will factor into the department's final decision."

Yeah, Unrec.

[lonestarnot]

29. Fucking A. Truth marginalization.

[SOS]

31. Crooked insiders dismiss warnings

"TransCanada’s chief Washington lobbyist is Paul Elliott, a top official in Mrs. Clinton’s 2008 presidential campaign."

http://www.nytimes.com/2011/10/04/science/earth/04pipeline.html

[Major Hogwash]

36. Well, how do you want your shit sandwich served, with chips or just a few pickles on the side?

There's nothing that is going to stop this behemoth mistake.
And it doesn't matter what the people want anymore, it's what the assholes who are in charge want.