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Electric Monk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-16-11 04:54 PM
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Wheldon seriously injured in massive 15-car wreck that sent cars flying Las Vegas IndyCar race
Edited on Sun Oct-16-11 05:08 PM by Electric Monk
Source: Washington Post / AP

By Associated Press, Updated: Sunday, October 16, 4:13 PM

LAS VEGAS — IndyCar driver Dan Wheldon has been seriously injured after his car went sailing through the air during in a massive 15-car wreck early in Sunday’s Las Vegas Indy 300.

Indianapolis 500 winner Wheldon, in line to win $5 million had he won the race, was injured when he car flew over another on the Lap 12 wreck and apparently caught part of the catch fence just outside of Turn 2.

Wheldon was transported to a hospital in a helicopter after a crash early in Sunday’s Las Vegas Indy 300.

Paul Tracy, who was involved in the wreck, said a team of doctors was working on Wheldon, but there was no word of his injuries. A helicopter lifted off from the speedway, and an IndyCar official confirmed Wheldon was onboard.

Read more: http://www.washingtonpost.com/sports/othersports/autoracing/wheldon-seriously-injured-in-massive-15-car-wreck-that-sent-cars-flying-las-vegas-indycar-race/2011/10/16/gIQALKhJpL_story.html



I saw the wreck on TV (PVR delayed), and it was the worst multi-car wreck I've ever seen in IndyCar. Cars were literally flying all over the place at 200+ mph. Really scary wreck.

The race has been red-flagged now for 2 hours.

If you're so inclined, it wouldn't hurt to say a little prayer for him.



edit: They just announced he died from his injuries, and this race has been declared over. The other drivers will run a 5 lap tribute to him shortly.

R.I.P. Daniel Clive Wheldon (June 22, 1978 - October 16, 2011)
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DemReadingDU Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-16-11 04:56 PM
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1. Saw it too, very bad

All thoughts going for Wheldon.

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Tempest Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-16-11 05:03 PM
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2. They're now reporting he died from injuries
Dan Wheldon has died following a crash at the Las Vegas Indy 300, according to ABC TV. More details to come.


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PatrynXX Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-16-11 10:38 PM
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39. Big Iowa name thats all I know
saw the big flame picture on Huffpo's app for android. first major news story I found on my new cell phone :(
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Lucinda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-16-11 05:03 PM
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3. Post in GD says ABC news announced his death
:(
Prayers for all involved
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Bosonic Donating Member (774 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-16-11 05:03 PM
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4. Yikes - Flying through the air on fire
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dkf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-16-11 05:08 PM
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6. Omg that's the feed from inside his car.
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Bosonic Donating Member (774 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-16-11 05:09 PM
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7. No it's from another driver's car (Will Power)
Who survived (I believe).
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dhill926 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-16-11 05:03 PM
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5. RIP.......
what a great personality he was. Tragic.
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Doctor_J Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-16-11 05:12 PM
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8. Not a lot of fender benders at 200mph
RIP
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liberal N proud Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-16-11 05:13 PM
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9. NBC Sports link
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SoapBox Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-16-11 05:15 PM
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10. Just my opinion...
but what a stupid and senseless "sport".

A waste of petroleum and in this case a life.
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leftyohiolib Donating Member (413 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-16-11 05:23 PM
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11. agreed
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bigworld Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-16-11 05:25 PM
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12. Most sports and hobbies are, really.
It's the benefit we get as a species for having enough to eat, money to spend, and enough leisure time to enjoy. We all spend that time in different ways.
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leftyohiolib Donating Member (413 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-16-11 05:31 PM
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13. stamp collecting never killed anyone
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-16-11 05:50 PM
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Psephos Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-16-11 05:53 PM
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16. You are mistaken.
"...An astonishing lore surrounds this stamp: in 1892, one of its earlier owners, Gaston Leroux, was murdered for it by an envious fellow philatelist, Hector Giroux.<2>"

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hawaiian_Missionaries



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bigworld Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-16-11 08:57 PM
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33. And I've seen "Nine Queens." Philatelists are a dastardly lot.
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Psephos Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-16-11 11:01 PM
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40. That is a *very* good movie. :) n/t
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groundloop Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-16-11 05:39 PM
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14. Pretty damned lacking in class to bad mouth a sport in a thread about a death
If you want to discuss the vurtues (or in your opinion lack of virtues) of auto racing why don't you go off and start a new thread?

I consider myself a strong environmentalist, and I don't have any problem saying I enjoy auto racing. In fact I used to race SCCA myself and I can totally understand the sentiment expressed by many drivers that they'd rather die doing what they love than spend years suffering of old age.

Dan Wheldon was a great driver. My thoughts are with his family.

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Hosnon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-16-11 05:58 PM
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17. Why not just stay your sorry ass out of this thread?
R.I.P. Dan
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abogado Donating Member (36 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-16-11 06:38 PM
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23. Thank you for saying what I would have, if I had more seniority here.
...
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madrchsod Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-16-11 06:54 PM
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26. you don`t need seniority to point out .....
classless statements about someone who just died doing what he loved to do.
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AngryOldDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-16-11 06:02 PM
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18. As I've often said before....DU **never** disappoints. n/t
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RantinRavin Donating Member (423 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-16-11 06:05 PM
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19. Next time, know what you are talking about
Indy cars run on methanol, not petrolium.
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Lionessa Donating Member (842 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-16-11 06:36 PM
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21. I used to think that way, but what I found out and what not, is that
without such races, many safety implements, and crash analysis, and fuel mixings (?? I understand that they are also advancing some of the biofuels R&D), fire retardants, all manner of things get a hardy workout and are constantly being improved and then ultimately many end up saving lives on the roadways. If memory serves both
rearview mirrors and seat belts were first engineered to keep racecar drivers safer. I'm sure there are way more, just two I'm pretty darn sure of off the top of my head.

And, like it or not, Americans work better and improve and innovate faster when the race is on.
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abogado Donating Member (36 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-16-11 06:37 PM
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22. All the Indy, F1 and Nascar races in a season use no more petroleum than
a 747 does flying from Andrews to Rome. One time. I do believe Air Force One is a 747.
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Skittles Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-16-11 06:47 PM
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24. I see your point on one hand
on the other hand, I concede that life would be exceedingly boring if no one ever did anything stupid and senseless
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sofa king Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-17-11 06:34 AM
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43. We might also concede that some are inexorably drawn to risk.
We should all recall that racing is organized in part because in places where it is not, young males put everyone else at risk on the streets in order to pursue the same interests.
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nolabear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-16-11 07:24 PM
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27. Darlin', if it wasn't for stupid and senseless life wouldn't be worth living.
I'm no racing fan, but people need to play, and to be challenged, and to, as the poet said, rage against the dying of the light. I'm very, very sprry this man died, but he died doing what he loved and next to being immortal I think that's hoped for by many.
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JanMichael Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-16-11 08:29 PM
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31. you are correct. Some DUers are going to pile on you
for you comment, but as a society, we should have moved past this stupid shit by now. Same for NASCAR. We live 25 miles from one of the biggest, stupidest tracks in the US.

It's utter garbage. I think this generation is going to have to die off before this silly assed car racing crap stops.

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PavePusher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-16-11 09:25 PM
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35. Yeah, we should all be Vulcans. Or some stupid shit.
Have you set up your Bureau of Silly Assed Crap That I Want to Ban yet?
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Codeine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-17-11 09:49 AM
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47. Please. As long as we have transport of any sort we'll race them
against each other. As soon as we had enough cars to make a decent race we started pitting them against each other to see which was fastest. In Europe they race big rigs around dirt tracks! Swedish kids as young as twelve can race in low-cost rallies in the forests and fields, spitting up dirt from their churning tires.

Racing is universal and timeless. We raced on foot, on horse, on chariot, on buggy; by rowing, sailing, and motoring boats; and in the air with planes and balloons.

We race dogs, we race birds, we race frogs. Kids race paper boats in the running water of streams or gutters. We raced to space.

Every generation will race, dude. The cars may be electric or solar or nuclear-powered, but they'll be racing them far after we are but memories.
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PavePusher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-16-11 09:22 PM
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34. So is being a dick on a website. Bubye. n/t
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24601 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-16-11 09:48 PM
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36. After the 1964 Indy crash that killed Dave McDonald & Eddie Sachs,
they moved to Methanol Racing Fuel. Petroleum is used in tires, plastics, etc, but not the fuel.

The point is the same as any other sport to be the best at something. You probably didn't recall that advancements in auto racing lead to improvements in the cars normal folk buy - like the invention of rear-view mirrors. And NASCAR has ties to moonshiners running away from the police during prohibition.

But since you can't find the ability to enjoy it, let's just cancel all sports for everybody. Just think of all the gas saved as people stay home and read books instead. And if nothing else, it will throw even more people out of work and push that unemployment rate even higher.
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Codeine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-17-11 10:05 AM
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49. He had a blast doing what he enjoyed. No "waste" at all. nt
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valerief Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-16-11 06:28 PM
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20. Stupid is as stupid does. None of those drivers HAVE TO do that. nt
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InvisibleTouch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-16-11 07:27 PM
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28. None of us HAVE to do most of the things we love.
Some of which are quite dangerous. Even walking across the street to buy an ice cream cone can kill you. But you can cower in your basement for 60 years and will still die.

My respect to those who live their lives fully and go out doing what they love.
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CakeGrrl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-16-11 10:12 PM
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37. ITA
It's legal and adults race and watch those races of their own free will.

As long as that's the case, I have no problem with anyone doing what they want.

I'll NEVER join the Polar Bear Club, but if you like jumping in icy lakes, enjoy!
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-16-11 07:50 PM
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valerief Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-16-11 08:33 PM
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32. CRASH! morte.
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Electric Monk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-17-11 03:02 AM
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42. If I had the skills and the opportunity, I would love to compete at that level.
Edited on Mon Oct-17-11 03:02 AM by Electric Monk
That'd be a dream come true for me, and I'm not stupid. I drove some Formula Vee around a decade ago, and quickly realized I wasn't 'the right stuff' but that was still plenty of fun for me.

I guess I'll just stick to playing Forza and GT5. That is much safer, true.



R.I.P. Dan Wheldon.
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joeglow3 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-17-11 08:27 AM
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45. I clicked on this just to see if someone posted this crap.
Good to see somethings on DU never disappoint. Too bad there was not a way to bet on these things. DU would have made me a millionaire by now.
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ScottLand Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-16-11 06:52 PM
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25. So very sad to hear this. He was such a young man.
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GreenEyedLefty Donating Member (708 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-16-11 07:44 PM
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29. So sad. Condolences to his family.
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Altoid_Cyclist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-16-11 10:14 PM
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38. Come on people!!!
I can't believe some of the replies in this thread.

If auto racing isn't something that you enjoy, then that's your choice. However, the callous remarks that I'm seeing are way out of line.

Yes...it's true that he didn't have to do this" for a living. It's also true that this is a dangerous way to make a living. But to say in so many words that he deserved to die at 33 while leaving behind a wife and two young sons is pathetic on a site such as DU.

He did this because he was one of the best drivers in the world and it allowed him to support his family which is the point that some of you seem to be missing.

Speaking from personal experience as well as many more examples in the news, bicycling is one of the most dangerous hobbies to participate in. I have a brain injury and spinal cord damage to verify that it's sometimes dangerous. I still love the rush that comes from hitting sharp curves @ 45 - 50 MPH. That history as well as two heart attacks while riding still don't prevent me from going back out as much as I can. Cycling is worth the risk to me just as racing @ 220MPH was to Mr. Wheldon.

You can either choose to avoid anything that is potentially dangerous in life or you can do what you love and know that you have at least one thing that makes life worth living. Mr. Wheldon was doing what he loved AND earning a living for his family.

Think about what some of you are saying and stop trashing Mr. Wheldon's life just because you don't understand his reasons for racing. We can do better here IMHO.
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Bombero1956 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-16-11 11:32 PM
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41. Can't say as I'm surprised
When I heard that Dan Wheldon had died of his injuries at the Indy car race in Las Vegas I just knew that I would find a few idiotic comments on DU. I also knew that they would come from folks that know nothing about motorsports. Rest in Peace Dan, my condolences to the Wheldon family and Sam Schmidt Motorsports.


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Blue_Tires Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-17-11 07:40 AM
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44. r.i.p.
I think IndyCar is going to do some hard thinking about racing on these NASCAR-designed high-banked bowls in the offseason...
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AngryOldDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-17-11 09:39 AM
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46. Some drivers were criticizing it before the race.
Dario Franchitti for one. Seeing how narrow that track is, with the low degree of banking on the turns, I do wonder what they were thinking. I know the sport has fallen on hard times, and this was part race/part publicity stunt, but it was not worth Dan Wheldon's life.
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Blue_Tires Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-17-11 09:49 AM
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48. Not to mention the speeds are too high as well
Edited on Mon Oct-17-11 09:50 AM by Blue_Tires
Some years back at Texas the IRL drivers almost refused to race -- After qualifying and practice in the 230+ mph range they were feeling disoriented...Although I did read that IndyCar is moving to a supposedly safer chassis next season...

It's shocking to think back at how far open-wheel has fallen in this country after the 'split' and how effective NASCAR has been in filling that void...
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AngryOldDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-17-11 01:13 PM
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51. Just saying on MSNBC....
...that courses like Las Vegas most likely won't be on the schedule next year, same with open road, etc. The only closest track like that will be the Indianapolis Motor Speedway.

I live in Indy, and this town is literally in mourning. People are leaving flowers, quarts of milk, stuffed animals, etc., at the IMS gates. Dan Wheldon was loved here. Almost all the local sportscasters were practically in tears last night covering the story.

And I agree that the split has been about the worst thing that ever happened to Indy car racing.
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tawadi Donating Member (631 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-17-11 12:30 PM
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50. Very tragic
Edited on Mon Oct-17-11 12:36 PM by tawadi
To those who are quick to condemn, here is a quote from fellow Indy driver Tony Kanaan:

"You ask anybody on this field, if we could choose a way to go... that's the way."

Ironically, Dan Wheldon cut back on racing this year to spend more time with his family.

source: http://www.wday.com/event/article/id/53394
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B2G Donating Member (714 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-17-11 05:24 PM
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52. RIP Dan
I started attending the Indy 500 at the age of 12 and have been hooked ever since.

Prayers out for his wife and 2 beautiful little children. So incredibly sad.
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