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UpInArms Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-22-04 07:36 AM
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Diebold apologizes for device flaws
http://www.trivalleyherald.com/Stories/0,1413,86~10669~2100333,00.html

It is an uncommon day when the nation's second- largest provider of voting systems concedes that its flagship products in California have significant security flaws and that it supplied hundreds of poorly designed electronic- voting devices that disenfranchised voters in the March presidential primary.

Diebold Election Services Inc. president Bob Urosevichadmitted this and more, and apologized "for any embarrassment."

"We were caught. We apologize for that," Urosevich said of the mass failures of devices needed to call up digital ballots. Poll- workers in Alameda and San Diego counties hadn't been trained on ways around their failure, and San Diego County chose not to supply polls with backup paper ballots, crippling the largest rollout of e- voting in the nation on March 2. Unknown thousands of voters were turned away at the polls.

...more...

We were caught?!?!?!?!? WTF!!!

This is beyond insane. This is criminal. Someone needs to go to prison for the destruction of our democracy by these corrupt individuals and their "corporations".

:nuke:
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ACK Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-22-04 07:38 AM
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1. OMG that is nuts.
Its just completely freaking insane.

Ugh.

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The Zanti Regent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-22-04 07:40 AM
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2. Has this been sent to Bev Harris?????
WE need to get this to Bev!
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LittleApple81 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-22-04 07:42 AM
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3. What about the senator sponsoring the BBV bill? I forgot his name. n/t
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stellanoir Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-22-04 07:49 AM
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6. two bills
Congressman Rush Holt D NJ (HR 2239)
Senator Bob Graham D FL (S 1980)

Holt was said to be talking in up in the House last evening sadly to a mostly empty chamber.

If you haven't yet contacted your representatives on this you might want to consider it. http://verifiedvoting.org has a very easy way of doing it as does http://truemajority.org.
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FreakinDJ Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-22-04 08:28 AM
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16. Now that Web site has it together
they have the bills listed supporting verified voting trails, aletter already to go and all one has to do is fill in the blanks and send the letter to the senate

Nice touch!!
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LittleApple81 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-22-04 07:46 AM
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4. I just sent her an e-mail with the thread. n/t
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MaineDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-22-04 07:55 AM
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8. Bev is already on this
From the article:

Seattle journalist and BlackBoxVoting.org leader Bev Harris took a microphone two feet in front of Urosevich and said, "What we have is a company that lies. Yes, I'll say it -- lies."

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BostonTeaParty04 Donating Member (512 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-22-04 08:04 AM
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10. 2 feet away from Satan himself!
Man, dat there lady has got some hudzspab! good for her!
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goddess40 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-22-04 07:48 AM
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5. guess which machines are scheduled for Dem districts
This is exactly what I'm afraid of.
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LittleApple81 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-22-04 07:49 AM
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7. maybe you should post it also in GD? n/t
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DoYouEverWonder Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-22-04 07:58 AM
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9. So if the machine in California are not reliable
what does that say about the machines in the rest of the country?

Sounds like the November elections are heading for a major train wreck.


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cthrumatrix Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-22-04 08:05 AM
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11. The senate and house need to see this....email this to your reps
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leesa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-22-04 08:05 AM
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12. But they got Arnold installed.
A little slap on the pinkie for Diebold and everything will be fine again.
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koopie57 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-22-04 08:06 AM
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13. a true republican
apologizes for getting caught and for the embarrassment, but not for the criminal act. It seems as though being evil is not bad, but getting caught being evil is bad.
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LynzM Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-22-04 08:16 AM
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15. BINGO!!!
I was just going to say that! He didn't apologize for the bad product, he apologized for the fact that they got caught!?!?! WTF, dude?! Scary, scary, scariness.
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leQ Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-22-04 08:10 AM
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14. loved how bev 'grabbed the mic'
and stated: "What we have is a company that lies. Yes, I'll say it -- lies."

you GO gurl!
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FreakinDJ Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-22-04 08:30 AM
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17. We should start a Grass roots landmark law suit
on behalf of all the voters in California
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hedda_foil Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-22-04 09:27 AM
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18. OMG, look what else they said!
State elections officials were dismayed to find that Diebold had sold and installed thousands of its new TSx machines in the state without getting them tested, nationally qualified and even before applying for state certification.

"I understand your frustration," said Diebold chief developer Tab Iredell. "Why did we sell something that we didn't think we could run? Our understanding based on past experience was we thought we could get that certified."

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BostonTeaParty04 Donating Member (512 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-22-04 09:32 AM
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19. legally speaking....
it doesn't matter if the machines ran like a charm.

the CRIME is in using uncertified, unapproved software..... they totally skirt that issue.
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bacchant Donating Member (747 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-22-04 09:44 AM
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20. The scariest thing of all
is the likelihood the sheeple won't care. Here at DU we are outraged daily by the crimes of the right-wing-machine, yet we're still waiting to see just what it's going to take to wake the slumbering masses.
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TeeYiYi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-22-04 09:50 AM
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21. We apologize for being caught? . . .
. . . jeez. Well better luck next time. :eyes: Yeah, I'll bet you do regret getting caught . . . you sorry ass. Thank god for Bev Harris or you wouldn't have to be making that apology would you? BUMMER!

TYY
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rman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-22-04 10:40 AM
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22. "We apologize for getting caught."
Yeah, next time just make sure we don't catch you, and all will be fine and dandy.
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GregD Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-22-04 11:17 AM
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23. Room was packed
A lot of us are here. There are folks from all over the state. Yesterday, it was a challenge to find a seat.

Somehow, David Jefferson from www.servesecurityreport.org has gained a place on the VSPP and he has been asking very tough questions. It is safe to say that Diebold in general, and Urosevich specifically, were grilled heavily yesterday. It all beging again in 45 minutes, pray for good news.

GregD
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derby378 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-22-04 11:32 AM
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24. I'll vote using a touch-screen Diebold machine...
...when they make me touch the screen with my cold, dead hands.

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