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alp227 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-22-11 05:45 PM
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NASA Is Considering Fuel Depots in the Skies
Source: NY Times

By considering a proposal to put filling stations in the sky, NASA is looking to accelerate plans to send astronauts to distant destinations.

The filling stations — NASA calls them propellant depots — would refuel a spacecraft in orbit before it headed out to the moon, an asteroid or eventually Mars. Currently, all of the fuel needed for a mission is carried up with the rocket, and the weight of the fuel limits the size of the spacecraft.

Next month, engineers will meet at NASA headquarters in Washington to discuss how propellant depots could be used to reach farther into space and make possible more ambitious missions using the heavy-lift rocket that NASA is planning to build. The discussions grow out of a six-month NASA study of propellant depots, completed in July.

However, the space agency has rejected the study’s most radical conclusion: that NASA could forgo the heavy-lift and use existing smaller rockets, combined with fuel depots, to reach its targets more quickly and less expensively. Those targets, for the next two decades at least, include a return to the moon or a visit to an asteroid. (A trip to Mars is unlikely until at least the 2030s.)

Read more: http://www.nytimes.com/2011/10/23/science/space/23nasa.html
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OneTenthofOnePercent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-22-11 05:54 PM
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1. You still have to fly other rockets up to deliver the fuel deposit.
So then you just end up with a bunch of little rockets flying up rather than a few large ones.
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joshcryer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-23-11 12:22 AM
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11. But if you can reuse those little rockets...
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Hoopla Phil Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-22-11 05:55 PM
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2. I though President Obama canceled the Constellation program.
Without that why are filling stations in the sky needed?
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Jello Biafra Donating Member (222 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-22-11 06:33 PM
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3. Are we going to see signs in space...
like Mobil and Hess and BP? Do we get full service up there? Do I get my space shield cleaned too?
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nilram Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-23-11 02:34 AM
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13. yes on the space shield cleaning
although you're expected to give your servicedroid a tip.
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liberal N proud Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-22-11 06:33 PM
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4. Someone must have a lot of rockets to sell
Rockets to assemble fuel depots similar to the space station maybe. Rockets to supply the fuel to the depots, then rockets to use the fuel from the depots.

Too bad NASA doesn't have any rockets.

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Gore1FL Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-22-11 06:45 PM
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5. Good.
NASA needs triple the funding it has to keep up with the missions we need from it.

I am glad to see them looking into deeper manned and unmanned exploration.
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SoapBox Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-22-11 06:58 PM
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6. Just wait until one of those comes hurling BACK to Earth!
...talk about fireworks.
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asjr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-22-11 07:06 PM
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7. Will BP be in charge?
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tridim Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-22-11 07:07 PM
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8. For my money, I'd rather have a space elevator
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on point Donating Member (613 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-22-11 08:00 PM
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9. How about creating some fuel in space
Use some of that free solar energy to at least run electrolysis on waste water to create hydrogen and oxygen fuel....
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PavePusher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-23-11 06:33 PM
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15. You still have to get that "waste" water into the right place....
i.e. boost from Earth, or move some comets around. And if you can already do the latter, you probably don't need much in the way of distributed fuel depots.
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glinda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-22-11 11:58 PM
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10. Not good enough to pollute this Planet that they have to attack the Solar System. Uggh.
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Gore1FL Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-23-11 01:01 AM
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12. If you consider Hydrogen and Oxygen pollutants, n/t
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PavePusher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-23-11 06:31 PM
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14. Seriously? n/t
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