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kpete Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-23-11 07:51 PM
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Warming could exceed safe levels in this lifetime
Source: Reuters

Warming could exceed safe levels in this lifetime
By Nina Chestney | Reuters – 7 hrs ago

LONDON (Reuters) - Global temperature rise could exceed "safe" levels of two degrees Celsius in some parts of the world in many of our lifetimes if greenhouse gas emissions continue to increase, two research papers published in the journal Nature warned.

"Certain levels of climate change are very likely within the lifetimes of many people living now ... unless emissions of greenhouse gases are substantially reduced in the coming decades," said a study on Sunday by academics at the English universities of Reading and Oxford, the UK's Met Office Hadley Center and the Victoria University of Wellington, New Zealand.

"Large parts of Eurasia, North Africa and Canada could potentially experience individual five-year average temperatures that exceed the 2 degree Celsius threshold by 2030 -- a timescale that is not so distant," the paper said.

Two years ago, industrialized nations set a 2 degree Celsius warming as the maximum limit to avoid dangerous climate changes including more floods, droughts and rising seas, while some experts said a 1.5 degree limit would be safer.



Read more: http://news.yahoo.com/warming-could-exceed-safe-levels-lifetime-170312059.html
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kestrel91316 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-23-11 08:58 PM
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1. It's already done that here in the San Fernando Valley. Los Angeles County's
Edited on Sun Oct-23-11 08:58 PM by kestrel91316
all time temperature record (high) set just a few years ago barely 2 miles from where I am sitting: 119F. Most the homes and apartments have not been built with anything like this in mind: minimal to zero insulation, no air conditioning until the 1980s at least. It is a completely different place from when I moved here 28 years ago, and a MUCH more dangerous one in the summertime.
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caseymoz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-23-11 09:28 PM
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2. I have read on Science Daily: some scientist fear some places may become uninhabitable.

Due to the then-normal heat and humidity overwhelming the human body's capacity to cool itself.
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kestrel91316 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-23-11 11:09 PM
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3. There are already places like that now, or that we inhabit but shouldn't.
Las Vegas comes to mind.

But it's going to get much worse. Quickly.
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caseymoz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-23-11 11:44 PM
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4. Not places we inhabit but shouldn't, but places we absolutely can't inhabit . . .

. . . without, say, a moon suit with air conditioning.

Las Vegas isn't too hot. It just doesn't have enough water. That is to say, it's quickly depleting its water sources and can't continue to support the population it does. The same with Phoenix and Tempe. This would be true even without global warming and will become sadly apparent for these cities within the decade.

But 70 percent of the counties in the US are going to face a water crisis in the next 20 years, and that has to do with mismanagement and under-investment in infrastructure than with global warming.

I was talking about tropic and sub-tropical areas. They might become uninhabitable.
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sce56 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-24-11 02:00 AM
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5. Some places will suffer like Texas others will be more wet! Last year was a record for the snowpac
in California's high sierras, Despite the fact that it was predicted to be a warmer dryer year due to La Nina.
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caseymoz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-24-11 10:24 AM
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8. Yes,now Texas might be uninhabitable from total lack of water.

If there's no rain for two years, everything dies. Cactuses, mesquite trees, everything.
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bananas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-24-11 12:58 PM
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12. Russia is building a domed city in the arctic.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2052862/Russia-plans-build-frozen-community-1-000-miles-North-Pole.html

Welcome to Ice City: Russia plans to build frozen community 1,000 miles from North Pole... as race for Arctic minerals heats up

By Will Stewart
Last updated at 3:44 PM on 24th October 2011

Russia is to build an ultra-modern city on a frozen island deep inside the Arctic Circle - in the Kremlin's latest move to back its claim to vast oil and gas reserves under the polar ice cap.

Named Umka, after a popular Soviet polar bear cub cartoon hero, the initial 5,000 residents will live under a vast dome to protect themselves from temperatures sinking below minus 30C in winter.

'This city will be of strategic importance as Russia's northern outpost,' said architect Valery Rzhevskiy who has shown its modernistic designs to an approving Vladimir Putin.

<snip>

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glinda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-24-11 03:38 PM
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13. I will bet minerals will be tasty.
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Javaman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-24-11 08:13 AM
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6. there is no "could" about it. It certainly will nt
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opihimoimoi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-24-11 08:16 AM
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7. WE Should be planting TREES.....stop cutting TREES
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Uncle Joe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-24-11 11:16 AM
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9. Kicked and recommended.
Thanks for the thread, kpete.
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flamingdem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-24-11 12:09 PM
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10. Add that to the loss we will experience of many endangered animals
this should be front page news daily..
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StarryNite Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-24-11 12:53 PM
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11. Al Gore was right!
He was run through the ringer for his views but in the end he was right. Some people just don't want to believe that precious human beings could be detrimental to Mother Earth and her inhabitants.
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