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Pirate Smile Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-25-11 12:21 AM
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U.S. Agencies Infiltrating Drug Cartels Across Mexico
Source: The New York Times


Jesús Vicente Zambada-Niebla, center, known as Vicentillo, at the attorney general's office in Mexico City in 2009.

WASHINGTON — American law enforcement agencies have significantly built up networks of Mexican informants that have allowed them to secretly infiltrate some of that country’s most powerful and dangerous criminal organizations, according to security officials on both sides of the border.

As the United States has opened new law enforcement and intelligence outposts across Mexico in recent years, Washington’s networks of informants have grown there as well, current and former officials said. They have helped Mexican authorities capture or kill about two dozen high-ranking and midlevel drug traffickers, and sometimes have given American counternarcotics agents access to the top leaders of the cartels they are trying to dismantle.

Typically, the officials said, Mexico is kept in the dark about the United States’ contacts with its most secret informants
— including Mexican law enforcement officers, elected officials and cartel operatives — partly because of concerns about corruption among the Mexican police, and partly because of laws prohibiting American security forces from operating on Mexican soil.
“The Mexicans sort of roll their eyes and say we know it’s happening, even though it’s not supposed to be happening,” said Eric L. Olson, an expert on Mexican security matters at the Woodrow Wilson Center.

“That’s what makes this so hard,” he said. “The United States is using tools in a country where officials are still uncomfortable with those tools.” In recent years, Mexican attitudes about American involvement in matters of national security have softened, as waves of drug-related violence have left about 40,000 people dead. And the United States, hoping to shore up Mexico’s stability and prevent its violence from spilling across the border, has expanded its role in ways unthinkable five years ago, including flying drones in Mexican skies.


Read more: http://www.nytimes.com/2011/10/25/world/americas/united-states-infiltrating-criminal-groups-across-mexico.html?_r=1&hp
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animato Donating Member (126 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-25-11 12:32 AM
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1. This war will supply fodder for the media and movies for years
it's unreal and out of control due to US appetite..
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Fumesucker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-25-11 12:33 AM
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2. It's not drug-related violence..
It's prohibition-related violence, take away the prohibition and the violence will go away too.

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red dog 1 Donating Member (307 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-25-11 01:41 AM
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3. Why Aren't U.S. Agencies Infiltrating Gang Stalking Cells Across America?
For information on Gang stalking: http://www.multistalkervictims.org/catchcanada/
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pipoman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-25-11 05:42 AM
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4. I wonder if US law enforcement is still actively and intentionally arming the cartels..
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Peace Patriot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-25-11 11:46 AM
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5. How to derive the truth from New York Slimes articles about Latin America...
I'm going to apply my rule of thumb for statements by Bushwhacks to this article and see what I can come up with, as to truth. My rule of thumb for Bushwhacks is: Whatever they say, the opposite is true, and whatever they accuse others of doing, they are doing or planning to do.

(Example: Does Saddam Hussein possess WMDs and intend to use them on western countries? No. Truth: The U.S. possesses 500 lb "smart bombs" and intends to drop them on Baghdad, slaughtering a hundred thousand innocent people in the first weeks of bombing alone.) (And do note the New York Slimes' role in that horror.)

This article smells Bushwhacky with underlying aromas of CIA/Pentagon (i.e., war profiteers). Further, the New York Slimes is egregiously unreliable on Latin America to the point of outright lies and propaganda. Putting these odors and facts together, I think my rule of thumb for Bushwhacks may yield some interesting insights and at least a rough guide to the truth.

So, here we go:

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Sentence #1: "American law enforcement agencies have significantly built up networks of Mexican informants that have allowed them to secretly infiltrate some of that country’s most powerful and dangerous criminal organizations, according to security officials on both sides of the border."

Translation from the Bushwhacky: North American Bush Cartel operatives in U.S. law enforcement agencies are about to be exposed as significant drug and weapons traffickers, using the cover of law to secretly infiltrate independent drug businesses and take them over, according to New York Slimes back alley contacts behind tattoo parlors in Tijuana and San Diego, sucking on joints and trying to look "local."

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Sentence #2: "As the United States has opened new law enforcement and intelligence outposts across Mexico in recent years, Washington’s networks of informants have grown there as well, current and former officials said."

Translation from the Bushwhacky: As U.S. war profiteers long ago identified the opportunity to direct revenue from the trillion+ dollar drug trade to U.S. banksters and to create murder and mayhem in Mexican society (a la Colombia) to prevent Leftists from getting elected, they set up elaborate, illegal spying operations, "outposts," black ops units and hit squads within Mexico, to consolidate the drug trade into fewer hands and to direct the profits out of Mexico and to needy billionaires and bank officers in Dubai, Singapore, the U.A.E., the Cayman Islands or just directly to Citibank, Goldman Sachs, the BofA, et al, in New York. This vile and massive corruption is about to be exposed. A pre-emptive "news" strike is needed to confuse the public and the few honest government employees who might be watching and wondering. The Slimes were given this mission by "current and former officials" (i.e., both Bushwhacks and Obamites) who were tasked with spreading the cover story.

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Sentence #3: "They have helped Mexican authorities capture or kill about two dozen high-ranking and midlevel drug traffickers, and sometimes have given American counternarcotics agents access to the top leaders of the cartels they are trying to dismantle."

Translation from the Bushwhacky: The U.S. is murdering people in Mexico who stand in the way of the Bush Cartel consolidation and control of the trillion+ dollar drugs/weapons underground economy. The U.S. agents pick off the independence-minded drug economy leaders and make deals with those who want to live.

(Some further notes: "They" presumably means U.S. "new law enforcement and intelligence" outpost denizens "across Mexico." "In recent years" = the Bush Junta initiated this takeover of the drug trade at the end of their stint as destroyers of U.S. democracy and looters of the world economy but it has continued and is coming to fruition, under Obama, which is one of the reasons that he is still alive.)

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Sentence #4: "Typically, the officials said, Mexico is kept in the dark about the United States’ contacts with its most secret informants — including Mexican law enforcement officers, elected officials and cartel operatives — partly because of concerns about corruption among the Mexican police, and partly because of laws prohibiting American security forces from operating on Mexican soil."

Translation from the Bushwhacky: The deal was to give Mexican authorities "deniability" (cuz the people of Mexico really frown on this sort of thing) in exchange for a cut of the profits and maybe further help with those newfangled electronic voting tabulators that the Bushwhacks rushed into the capitol of Mexico when the Devil Incarnate--hugely popular leftist Andrés Manuel López Obrador--was about to be elected in 2005. The man whom the Bushwhacks helped (s)elect to run Mexico, Felipe Calderon, was given an initial mission of privatizing Mexico's oil. The Mexican people opposed this so effectively that Calderon mission #2 was initiated, just as the Bush Junta stood down (late 2008)--redirecting the huge drug profits to U.S. billionaires. The intention was to turn Mexico into Colombia--a golden stream of illicit profits amidst piles of corpses of trade unionists and other advocates of the poor, plus huge rewards to war profiteer pals compliments of U.S. taxpayers.

Interesting background: Remember when Junior visited highly selective sites in Latin America, in March 2006, Mexico being one of them? There wasn't much news about this--cuz there were massive protests everywhere Junior threatened to touch down. Calderon spirited him off to a remote villa but before he did so, he greeted Junior with a curious speech in which he publicly lectured Bush Jr. on the "sovereignty" of Latin American countries, using Venezuela as his example! Two years later, Calderon would make this "war on drugs" deal with the Bush Cartel, selling Mexican sovereignty right down the Rio Grande. But what's interesting about this is that Calderon felt obliged to pretend like he cared about Mexico's and other Latin American countries' "sovereignty."

"Sovereignty" (independence from the U.S.) is a BIG DEAL in Latin America. It is, indeed, one of the key issues that has gotten Leftists elected in Brazil, Venezuela, Argentina, Bolivia, Ecuador, Uruguay, Paraguay (!), Peru, Nicaragua, El Salvador, Guatemala, Chile (recently undone by a fascist billionaire, who now has something like a 25% approval rating), Honduras (U.S. supported coup to get rid of the Leftist), and other places. Sovereignty--never before experienced by always-colonized Latin America--combined with south-south cooperation, trade and mutual aid are the premises of the remarkable prosperity and resiliency of South American economies and some progressive advances even in Central America which is still dominated by U.S. "free trade for the rich" (enforced by threatened coups and U.S. military bases throughout the U.S. "circle the wagons" area of Central America/the Caribbean). I managed to pick this up from the meager news about Junior's visits to luxury haciendas in carefully chosen countries--that Calderon felt obliged to salute Mexico's "sovereignty" right in Junior's face. But Smirky was probably laughing behind his hand, if not exchanging complicated secret handshakes with Felipe under the dais.

I have to say something about "...partly because of concerns about corruption among the Mexican police...". ("...Mexico is kept in the dark...partly because of concerns about corruption among Mexican police.") I suspect that the Mexican police are mostly saints compared to the agents of the Bushwhack-infiltrated DEA, AFT and FBI (not to mention Rumsfeld-seeded Pentagon secret agencies and ops). Local police for the most part understand that Mexico has been raped by U.S. "free trade for the rich" and want to keep the profits of the only viable remaining business local. The long standing bribery/collusion system was local. What is happening now is NOT local. The murder and mayhem--such as never before seen in these informal local economies--and the consolidation and direction of profits out of the local communities is being directed from Washington DC--secretly! And we will see NO even slowdown of the illicit drug flow. That is NOT the purpose of "Washington"'s policy and use of our tax dollars.

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To repeat, Sentence #4 (watch the phrasing closely): "Typically, the officials said, Mexico is kept in the dark about the United States’ contacts with its most secret informants — including Mexican law enforcement officers, elected officials and cartel operatives — partly because of concerns about corruption among the Mexican police, and partly because of laws prohibiting American security forces from operating on Mexican soil."

Simpler translation from the Bushwhacky: The extremely corrupt U.S. government has secretly infiltrated and taken over the Mexican government and is wholesale violating Mexico's most revered laws, among other things by summary execution. (Mexico has no death penalty.) The murder and mayhem in Mexico is U.S.-instigated.

Also, another suspicion prompted by this Slimey article: corrupt U.S. operatives are making deals with favored drug lords which in turn is causing the independent drug organizations to fight back. A relatively benign, albeit illicit, economy has been supplanted by a very bloody war, with both sides armed by weapons from the U.S. (That recent AFT story about taking guns into Mexico "for a sting operation" is likely the tip of a bloody iceberg.)

(Bushwhack "rule of thumb" reversal): The secrecy has NOTHING TO DO with the corruption of the Mexican police and EVERYTHING TO DO with hiding this U.S. takeover from the Mexican people. The people of the U.S. don't really count. Though we're paying for all this, those who rule over us don't care what we think any more (not since Diebold/ES&S took over the voting system). Propaganda like this Slimes article is more reflex than anything. And it may also be intended to quiet factions within the secret government and the corrupt political establishment (i.e., along the Washington/New York Imperial corridor) who aren't profiting from this or want resources to be allocated somewhere else (for instance, to the Middle East), and it's possibly also intended to shut up the very few U.S. government employees who might still be loyal to the people of the U.S. and our Constitution. We don't count--but Mexicans do, why? Because Mexico is the last bulwark against Latin American socialism.

Here's what one of the Honduran coup generals said about their coup. He stated that their coup was "intended to prevent Venezuelan communism from reaching the United States" (--quoted in a report on the coup by the Zelaya government-in-exile). Venezuela is not communist. It is socialist--or rather, it has a mixed socialist/capitalist economy. So what did this coup general mean by "Venezuela communism"? He meant free universal medical care. He meant free education through university. He meant decent wages. He meant equitable income. (Venezuela was recently designated "THE most equitable country in Latin America" on income distribution, by the UN Economic Commission on Latin America and the Caribbean.)

Honduras straddles the choke-point, through which such "communism" is trying to infiltrate north from South America. But Mexico is right on our border and presents the immediate threat of poisonous ideas of fairness and equity "reaching the United States." These ideas are not limited to Venezuela. They are pervasive in South America and winning numerous true elections and they are struggling for expression and electoral victory in Central America/the Caribbean against great odds (U.S. bullying and oppression in the U.S. "Custer's last stand" region). U.S. corporate rulers/war profiteers really cannot afford to see a Leftist government in Mexico defying U.S. corporate dictates, legalizing drugs (depriving our war profiteers of excuses to rob us), and creating another example of how sharing wealth and taking care of the poor and the weak actually benefits the economy and society.

Exposure of the U.S. takeover of the Mexican government and the U.S. role in the unnecessary violence will skewer the rightwing/corporate party in Mexico's upcoming presidential election. And something has come out or is threatening to come out (I don't know from where). So a cover story had to be concocted. A 'good' cover story by the corporate/war profiteer press reveals some things and hides others. It gives the appearance of being an investigation and expose. The extent to which it reveals evil-doing tells you something of the magnitude of the hidden evildoing. The New York Slimes are experts at this sort of 'news' story (cover up).

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End paragraphs from the OP:

“'The Mexicans sort of roll their eyes and say we know it’s happening, even though it’s not supposed to be happening,' said Eric L. Olson, an expert on Mexican security matters at the Woodrow Wilson Center.

“'That’s what makes this so hard,' he said. 'The United States is using tools in a country where officials are still uncomfortable with those tools.' In recent years, Mexican attitudes about American involvement in matters of national security have softened, as waves of drug-related violence have left about 40,000 people dead. And the United States, hoping to shore up Mexico’s stability and prevent its violence from spilling across the border, has expanded its role in ways unthinkable five years ago, including flying drones in Mexican skies."


Translation from the Bushwhacky: Some egregious lies here--that "American involvement" is intended to end violence and that the U.S. government gives a fuck about the security of most Mexicans or, for that matter, about violence "spilling across the border" here. The U.S. government positively loves violence. It has become virtually our only product and it is extremely lucrative to certain very select and wealthy individuals and corporate cabals.

The U.S. government has not taken over the Mexican government, and is not grossly violating Mexico's laws against spying, black ops, murder and other crimes for any good or decent purpose at all. They are trying to prevent a righteous, democratic, peoples' rebellion in Mexico from "spilling over the border." Mexicans were first slammed by U.S. "free trade for the rich." Now this.

"Free trade' didn't work out so well for most Mexicans. Millions of peasant farmers were driven from their lands (as in Colombia), and, while some U.S. traitor corporations moved their manufacturing to Mexico, they didn't stay there long. As soon as the Mexican workers in these factories got organized and started demanding, say, $3/hr as opposed to $1/hr in wages, the corporate shits would pull up stakes and move on to, say, Cambodia, where they can get away with 25 cents/day in wages. Mexico is being systematically stripped of its ability to feed itself with homegrown, organic corn and beans, amidst vast economic-forced migration to urban areas. Working for the rich here, as maids and gardeners, or in our polluted corporate farms, is often the only alternative--the other alternative being drug trafficking, both in a benign leaf like marijuana and in the transformed coca leaf into a dangerous drug (cocaine, crack).

Drug traffic works on "market principles." (It is the ultimate success story of the "free market.") It should be legalized and regulated. But it is far, far more lucrative as an illicit trade--and you'd have to be very naive, indeed, to believe that U.S. banksters and entities like the Bush Cartel and Bush Junta front men, did not long ago recognize this massive source of illicit profits and have not plotted to hijack it. That is what they are doing in Mexico, in my opinion, with the collusion, as always, of our Democratic Party leadership.

Resources (oil, gas, water, etc.). Land (for Monsanto, Chiquita, et al). Slave labor. And excuses to bilk U.S. taxpayers of billions and billions of dollars for false wars, for unjust imprisonment and for the militarization of other societies and our own society. These are the true U.S purposes in Mexico. The New York Slimes puts a gloss of this of good purpose, but it is a very thin gloss--easy to see through. They are lying, big time--just as if this piece of shit article were dictated direct from Donald Rumsfeld's desk. I don't know who wrote (or should I say, transcribed) this and I don't click on Slimes' articles, but it is the sort of thing that Judith Miller was doing, before her ties to Rumsfeld and Cheney and to the outing and probable murders of CIA agents, became known, making her too "hot" to continue in that role. Simon Romero has been the Slimbag "reporter" on the Latin American Left. This article doesn't have his flabby-blabby style but does use some of his tricks (such as quoting anonymous sources or shills from U.S. "think tanks").

I can't prove it--yet--but it seems to me that my "rule of thumb" for Bushwhacks applies to this article. "Whatever they say, the opposite is true, and whatever they accuse others of doing, they are doing or planning to do." Is the U.S. government trying to stop drug traffic from Mexico? I think it's patently obvious that it is not. Are corrupt Bush Cartel-planted agents of the U.S. government doing what they are accusing drug cartels of doing--trafficking in drugs and murdering people? Apparently, it's so bad and so lawless, the Slimes had to half-admit it. Are the Slimes owners and cronies profiting from this? Probably. Is this an expose? No, it is a cover story, because the thing is so-o-o-o bad and somebody--or several somebodies--know about it and may be planning a real expose. Panetta got rid of the Bush Cartel operative in Colombia--Alvaro Uribe--before too many whistles got blown (and landed him on a silk cushion). The Mexican U.S. government/Bush Cartel operatives in Mexico--starting with Calderon--are likely very vulnerable and will likely be tossed--back into their luxury haciendas or maybe to refuge in Honduras or Colombia (lots of U.S. military bases; three new ones going in, in Honduras). (Paraguay is no longer an option--it's gone Leftist). They are probably reading up on extradition laws.

I have to say I pre-judged the article, even before I applied my Bushwhack "rule of thumb." (You probably know that.) Just the situation made me laugh--the New York Slimes writing about this humongous clusterfuck, the U.S. "war on drugs" and the super-clusterfuck of the Mexican people. I was laughing (darkly) before I started reading. The steely-jawed virtuous "Americans" just trying to rid of the world of evil, vs their hapless, do-nothing, incompetent, "mañana" Mexican puppets. I was not far off--just guessing how this would be 'handled." I gotta hand it to the Slimes, though, with the colorful descriptions of Mexicans "rolling their eyes" and the "waves" of "drug-related violence," like some Force of Nature that has to be beaten down in order to shove GMO corn into Mexican stomachs. "Waves" and "waves" of violence sweeping over Mexico like hurricanes, and only the Pentagon is up to the task of taming this beast and rescuing the innocent! Superdrones to the rescue! Look! Up in the sky! It's a bird! It's a plane! It's....

Monty Python Gets Pilotless Aircraft Stoned and Accidentally Bombs San Diego!

Really, there are no words....




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Blue_Tires Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-25-11 04:39 PM
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6. Translation: Our people want a quiet piece of the action
and the Northern Virginia war/spy/toy industries need a new market to expand into...Profit on both sides, no matter who wins or loses...
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Fool Count Donating Member (878 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-25-11 07:28 PM
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7. From what I hear, most Mexican drug cartel members could be
paid FBI informers. At least picking one at random results in a good chance
of getting an informer, as the Iranian assassination guy found out.
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