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PoliticAverse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-02-11 01:04 AM
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Milk Street Cafe Owner Sacks 21 Employees As Consequence Of Occupy Wall Street Demonstration
Source: CBS New York

NEW YORK (CBSNewYork) – The Occupy Wall Street movement, which says its goals include improving the economic lot for 99 percent of Americans, may have some explaining to do to some cafe workers now out of a job.

Mark Epstein, owner of the Milk Street Cafe at 40 Wall Street, just let 21 employees go.

The reason? The barricades police have set up throughout Wall Street as a consequence of the ongoing demonstration.


Read more: http://newyork.cbslocal.com/2011/11/01/milk-street-cafe-owner-sacks-21-employees-as-consequence-of-occupy-wall-street-demonstration/
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shraby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-02-11 01:06 AM
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1. Maybe the police should remove the barricades...or is that
too logical?
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No Elephants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-02-11 01:34 AM
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9. The barricades force people who want to demonstrate to end up where police can throw nets over most
Edited on Wed Nov-02-11 01:34 AM by No Elephants
of them and kettle them whenever they see fit, so they can arrest them for instinctively fighting the nets, as any trapped animal would.

Also to use the route the police want them to use.

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snooper2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-02-11 07:32 AM
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36. Is there any accountability?
On both sides?

“The end result of it is that it completely destroyed the pedestrian traffic on Wall Street. Completely destroyed it,” Epstein said. “It is a desolate, police-controlled area.”

Oh, and CBS did a good job on the story---

“I think this is an issue of both Occupy Wall Street and the city officials. There’s protest and how you react to protest,” Epstein said. “If the barriers do not come down, I do not see how we can survive. This has got to become like America again. You have to be free to walk around.”

“Everybody should understand the consequences of their actions,” he said."


Why can't OWS have a working group to ensure that people who used to walk through that area still do. Maybe you can have folks politely standing there handing out information to people who pass by without yelling and banging a drum in their face?

Two of my co-workers completely avoid Zuccotti park and walk twice as far and twice as long to get to work now. Too much of a clusterfuck to try to get through.



And WHY are you soooooooooooooooooooooo anti elephant? They really are nice creatures :)
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wtmusic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-02-11 09:49 AM
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39. The barricades also turn what would be a boon for local business into a bust
The perfect excuse to dust off canisters of tear gas & flash grenades.

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wtmusic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-02-11 01:06 AM
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2. Of course, it's the barricades which are the problem.
Not that CBS would notice.
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No Elephants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-02-11 01:38 AM
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11. CBS did notice. A headline doesn't get that misleading, while technically correct, by accident.
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eppur_se_muova Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-02-11 02:13 AM
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16. Spot on. nt
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me b zola Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-02-11 02:49 AM
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18. ^^^^FTW^^^
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JDPriestly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-02-11 01:16 AM
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3. Why do they have the barricades?
Maybe some of the OWS visitors, especially the celebrities, could buy a snack at the Cafe.
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markpkessinger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-02-11 01:26 AM
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7. Why, if they didn't have barricades...
... then the wouldn't be able to arrest people for trying to past them! ;)
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No Elephants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-02-11 01:36 AM
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10. Please see Reply 9. And what markpkessinger posted.
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Hissyspit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-02-11 01:22 AM
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4. The important stuff buried at the end of the article:
Edited on Wed Nov-02-11 02:13 AM by Hissyspit
However, Epstein doesn’t lay all the blame at the feet of Occupy Wall Street.

“I think this is an issue of both Occupy Wall Street and the city officials. There’s protest and how you react to protest,” Epstein said. “If the barriers do not come down, I do not see how we can survive. This has got to become like America again. You have to be free to walk around.”

- snip -

Epstein says he’s brought his plight to the attention of city officials and police and has been met with empathy. But the barriers are still in place.

“Everybody’s empathetic and they’ll have lots to say at my eulogy,” he said. “I don’t want to be eulogized. I want the barriers down.”
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caseymoz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-02-11 01:25 AM
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5. Might have some explaining to do about the police barricades?

It's not like the protesters asked for them, or deserved them. I'm certain they wanted coffee, too.

This story is a torpedo job, and a very transparent, incompetent one at that.
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No Elephants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-02-11 01:42 AM
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12. What else do we expect from network news? And what are we going to do about that?
Edited on Wed Nov-02-11 01:44 AM by No Elephants
Anything? Ever?

But, it's okay, right, because in the U.S. we have freedoms and we run government via elections. So, what do we have to compmlain about, right? Oh, except the other side, the side that supposedly made us lose the election, not lobbyists, not government and not people who, um, influence, our elections.

Yea, it's them OTHER workers that are our real problem. The ones who are exactly like us, but vote differently. Yeah, that's the ticket.

Damned, evil red team fans, run by Republican propaganda. Nothing like us.

Hey, eyes here. Pay no attention to the folks behind the curtain.

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uncle ray Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-02-11 01:25 AM
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6. "I felt that by October or November we would break even.”
it sounds like he came up with a convenient excuse for not breaking even after only a few months of business. methinks the layoffs would have come sooner if not for the protests bringing traffic to his cafe.
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No Elephants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-02-11 01:32 AM
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8. Fuck CBS New York's misleading headline.
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truthisfreedom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-02-11 01:43 AM
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13. That's actually a great article. He wants the barriers down. He doesn't want to lose his business.
And he's not against the 99%ers.
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No Elephants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-02-11 01:46 AM
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14. Maybe he's a niice shop owner, but a lousy, misleading, inflammatory headline.
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Ralph Spoilsport Donating Member (16 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-02-11 02:07 AM
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15. if he switched the menu to jelly donuts, he'd be in the black...
oh wait....did i just use a stereotype? Sorry.
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No Elephants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-02-11 03:26 AM
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21. Yes, please stop stereotyping jelly dougnuts. I alert on on food bigotry.
Unless it's lactose intolerance.
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rpannier Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-02-11 03:43 AM
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23. Damned liberal media and their headlines
:sarcasm:
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eppur_se_muova Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-02-11 02:14 AM
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17. Well, at least the police aren't rioting again. nt
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DeSwiss Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-02-11 02:56 AM
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19. Why does this CBS sellout want OWS to explain something......
...they're unwilling to demand explanations about from GE? Or ExxonMobil, Citibank, and the Bank of America? How many jobs have they killed-off and still took in our tax money and our Tarp money while paying no tax themselves?

Hey CBS chump! Ask them that first, then get back to us. These assholes still don't get it. Or are at least they're doing a plausible job of pretending not to get it.

- It's all got to come down. Completely. Utterly. Irrevocably......





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Firebrand Gary Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-02-11 03:25 AM
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20. Maybe CBS should cover the hundreds of restaurants that have closed in my city.
Because of those fuckers on Wall St, what about all of those people out of a job?
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No Elephants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-02-11 03:30 AM
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22. Hundreds, thousands and millions of job losses due to greed and RW policies
don't matter. Only these 21 jobs that they pretend are the fault of the left matter.

Move along quietly now. Just follow the barricades.
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Firebrand Gary Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-02-11 03:44 AM
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24. The vast majority of the media is evil.
Who would have thought the people of this great country were so far from actually governing it.
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Prometheus Bound Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-02-11 04:59 AM
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25. (CBSNewYork) - Police force Milk Street Cafe Owner to Sack 21 Employees
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BanzaiBonnie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-02-11 06:23 AM
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28. Yes, let's try that headline!
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SemperEadem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-02-11 05:42 AM
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26. him choosing to fire 21 people has nothing to do with OWS
Edited on Wed Nov-02-11 05:45 AM by SemperEadem
and I rather resent the inference that it's OWS's fault.

The police and their made-up-on-the-spot-for-their-own-convenience laws are the reasons why barracades are up in front of his location in an attempt to infringe upon citizens' constitutional right to assemble peacefully.

Don't get it twisted.
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iamthebandfanman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-02-11 06:09 AM
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27. 40 wall street
seems kinda far away from the park..
like 2 blocks or so
never been there myself, but looked it up on google earth
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PoliticAverse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-02-11 06:41 AM
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31. It's near the NY Stock Exchange (11 Wall Street)...
and the NYPD has apparently put barriers all over the area.
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PoliticAverse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-02-11 06:45 AM
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32. DNAinfo.com version of the story with more pictures of the Cafe
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KamaAina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-02-11 11:58 AM
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40. More like four blocks
apparently NYPD has turned all lower Manhattan into an armed camp. :eyes:
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PoliticAverse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-02-11 06:30 AM
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29. Huffington Post version of the story...
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PoliticAverse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-02-11 06:31 AM
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30. Gothamist.com version of the story...
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PoliticAverse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-02-11 06:52 AM
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33. NY Post version of the story...
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leveymg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-02-11 07:21 AM
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34. Maybe Bloomberg should buy lunch every day there for OWS. Would solve several problems.
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2pooped2pop Donating Member (212 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-02-11 07:23 AM
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35. me thinks his problem has nothing to do with the barricades
from the site http://newyork.milkstreetcafe.com/About/Default.aspx


Founded in 1981 Milk Street Café has evolved from a vegetarian café to become a prominent force in corporate catering in Boston. We are committed to bringing you the finest homemade foods, beautifully prepared, with unmatched service and punctual delivery.

Milk Street Cafe will be bringing its popular gourmet food and corporate catering to the heart of New York's Financial District!



check out the menu
http://newyork.milkstreetcafe.com/OurCafes/FiftyMilkSt.aspx?catId=36


again, I don't think the protesters are the problem. They cater gourmet food. I think he should blame wall street for not buying his stuff.
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lunatica Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-02-11 08:13 AM
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37. OWS has nothing to explain. But the police do.
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workinclasszero Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-02-11 08:46 AM
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38. Police put up the barriers
Just more 1% MSM lies.
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