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Zorro Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-10-11 09:22 PM
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Iran warns of 'full force' response to threats
Source: AFP

Iran will hit back against any attack or even threat of military action, the country's supreme leader said Thursday after Israel warned the world must act to prevent Tehran getting nuclear weapons.

Iran "will respond with full force to any aggression or even threats in a way that will demolish the aggressors from within," Ayatollah Ali Khamenei told students at a Tehran military college, according to his official website.

Khamenei said the message was directed at Iran's enemies, "especially America and its stooges and the Zionist regime (Israel)."

The supreme leader's forceful language followed threats last week from Israel that air strikes could be in the offing against Iran's nuclear facilities.

Read more: http://news.yahoo.com/iran-leader-warns-us-israel-against-strike-142052272.html
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bananas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-10-11 09:27 PM
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1. He sounds like Bush saying, "Bring it on". nt
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Poll_Blind Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-10-11 09:29 PM
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2. This is the most uncontroversial and unsurprising statement a nation under threat of attack can make
Edited on Thu Nov-10-11 09:29 PM by Poll_Blind
That they will defend themselves from attack.

Yet Israeli and to a great extent American media treat their choice of a pre-emptive strike as a foregone conclusion.

Step outside of the frame of reference of being an involved participant (because as an American, you are sure as shit involved in this) and think about how other countries, countries which maybe haven't chosen a side in the American or Israel or Iran war of words...imagine how those countries view this back and forth and the nuclear context.

You know, someday India and Pakistan might get into a tangle and nuclear weapons might be used. Think about how you would feel as an American when the fallout from that hypothetical exchange starts to drift over the ocean towards us.

I'd like to think we're a smarter country than our words and alliances might imply. We'll see.

PB
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bananas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-10-11 09:38 PM
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3. Iran is escalating things.
Iran chose to violate its IAEA agreements.
Iran chose to move its centrifuges to a military site.
Iran is making threats instead of coming into IAEA compliance.

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Tempest Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-10-11 09:43 PM
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5. Bullshitfuckingshit

This is a natural response to Israel's posturing and public statements on the possibility of an attack on Iran's nuclear facilities.

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truth2power Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-10-11 10:13 PM
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11. +1.Thank you, tempest.
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bananas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-11-11 07:25 AM
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27. That's what escalation means.
Iran could de-escalate by complying with its IAEA agreements.
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Tempest Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-11-11 11:29 AM
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29. So by your logic, you're escalating

More B.S. on your part.
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bananas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-11-11 12:03 PM
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30. Nope. nt
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Harmony Blue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-10-11 09:47 PM
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6. So, is China and Russia also escalating
Edited on Thu Nov-10-11 10:02 PM by Harmony Blue
or are China, Russia and Iran are taking defensive positions against escalation from Western forces? From an outside perspective I think ALL parties are causing escalation; USA, Iran, Israel, Russia, China, etc. The only exception is surprisingly France which wants to tone down the rhetoric from both sides.



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walerosco Donating Member (449 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-10-11 11:50 PM
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23. LOL
Comedy hour at the DU joint. Ofc theres no way you believe what u just posted
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plumbob Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-10-11 09:40 PM
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4. Iran is exercising the right of any sovereign nation to defend itself.
Not surprising in the least.

I personally hate to be in the future history books as an aggressor nation, but that is what we have become.
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Zorro Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-10-11 09:50 PM
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7. Has the US threatened to attack Iran?
I must have missed that news.
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plumbob Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-10-11 10:33 PM
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14. Heavens, no. We have promised to be their BFF, and under no circumstances
have we encouraged any of our client states to threaten them, either.

Has the US ever stopped threatening Iran? I must have missed THAT news.
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Zorro Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-10-11 10:50 PM
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15. When has the US threatened to attack Iran?
Edited on Thu Nov-10-11 10:51 PM by Zorro
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Harmony Blue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-10-11 10:59 PM
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17. The threat of pre-emptive strike by the U.S.
using buster bunker bombs has always been on the table. They even openly discussed the merits of such approach to the public and how it would unfold potentially under proposed plans. That led to prominent scientists pointing out the dangers of nuclear fall out and how it would be dispersed. This has been common knowledge for quite a while.





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Zorro Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-10-11 11:13 PM
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18. So can you point to this article where the US threatened Iran then?
Thanks.
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plumbob Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-10-11 11:16 PM
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20. see #19 nt
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Harmony Blue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-10-11 11:36 PM
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22. No offense but
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walerosco Donating Member (449 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-10-11 11:58 PM
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24. +1000
Edited on Fri Nov-11-11 12:06 AM by walerosco
For Iran, our actions of taking out oil producing nations without a nuclear deterrent is the number 1 reason why they should have nuclear weapons. Ahmadenajad's fate would be worse that Gaddafi if doesnt buy his country some real protection, its only a matter of time before the Russia and China sells them out to the US.

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plumbob Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-10-11 11:16 PM
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19. Well, here's Biden.
http://abcnews.go.com/Blotter/iran-dc-plot-vice-president-joe-biden-off/story?id=14719055#.TryhEPSXu7s


By BRIAN ROSS (@brianross) , RICHARD ESPOSITO, CINDY GALLI, LEE FERRAN and KIRIT RADIA (@KiritRadia_ABC)
Oct. 12, 2011
A U.S. representative is meeting separately with members of the United Nations Security Council concerning a potential international response to the alleged Iranian plot to assassinate the Saudi Arabian ambassador on U.S. soil, the State Department said today.

America's U.N. ambassador, Susan Rice, is meeting with member nations today as part of the U.S. government's effort to "unite world opinion" against Iran, in the words of Vice President Joe Biden.

Biden said today that "nothing has been taken off the table" when it comes to America's possible response to the alleged plot.

"It is an outrageous act that the Iranians are going to have to be held accountable," Biden told ABC News' "Good Morning America". "This is really over the top."



NOTHING has been taken off the table.
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unkachuck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-10-11 09:54 PM
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8. has anybody....
....seen any real evidence that Iran is actually making a nuclear weapon? Not intent, not propaganda or Western bullshit, but tangible evidence? I'll believe it when Colin Powell presents the evidence before the Security Council....

....of course Iran should respond, as any nation should respond against fascist aggression....and they should receive appropriate help from their friends and allies to resist the aggression....
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Muskypundit Donating Member (417 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-10-11 10:06 PM
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9. Please, dont incinuate iran ISNT fascist.
They are more fucked up than we are.
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Fumesucker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-10-11 10:15 PM
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12. How Iran got to the point they are today is an interesting story..
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Worship Money Donating Member (257 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-10-11 10:51 PM
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16. They are severely fucked up
Edited on Thu Nov-10-11 10:52 PM by Worship Money
The fact that this government's foreign policy is absurd at best and vile at worst doesn't absolve the Islamic "Republic" for brutalizing the people of Iran.

Funny how we forget how our brother and sister progressives in Iran suffer.
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classysassy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-10-11 11:22 PM
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21.  America is concerned about Iran citizens?
What are you smoking and drinking?
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Worship Money Donating Member (257 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-11-11 12:31 PM
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31. What are you talking about?
Edited on Fri Nov-11-11 12:35 PM by Worship Money
Are you equating all 300 million Americans with this government?

Lots of people in this country and elsewhere are PLENTY concerned with the fact that Iranians live under a brutal regime that ignores civil rights, the right to build a free civil society, and you know...stones women for "adultery" and hangs gay children from cranes for "sexual deviancy". Among other life destroying nonsense.

I shouldn't even need to say this, but I'm of Iranian descent and know plenty of people who've lived in Iran under the ayatollah. We don't need a war to completely oppose such an awful, unwanted regime.

So take your liberal faux outrage elsewhere.
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patrice Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-10-11 10:08 PM
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10. Is Israel trying to keep U.S. troops in the region by threatening Iran?
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Bozita Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-10-11 10:18 PM
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13. Mitt Romney, get your ass back in your kid's basement!
Edited on Thu Nov-10-11 10:21 PM by Bozita
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Purveyor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-10-11 11:58 PM
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25. What the hell else are they to say in response to 'death threats' from israel. Really? eom
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dipsydoodle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-11-11 05:40 AM
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26. US defence chief Panetta warns against Iran strike
The US Defence Secretary Leon Panetta has said a military strike against Iran could have "unintended consequences".

He said it would only delay Iran's nuclear efforts by three years at most.

Correspondents say the comments appear to play down speculation that a military strike might be used to cripple Tehran's nuclear programme.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-15688042
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octothorpe Donating Member (358 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-11-11 07:36 AM
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28. I'm not an Iran cheerleader or anything, but what the hell is expected?
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