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deminks Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-22-11 12:12 AM
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Informer’s Role in Terror Case Is Said to Have Deterred F.B.I.
Source: The New York Times

The suspect had little money to speak of, was unable to pay his cellphone bill and scrounged for money to buy the drill bits that court papers said he required to make his pipe bombs. Initially, he had trouble drilling the small holes that needed to be made in the metal tubes.

The suspect, Jose Pimentel, according to several people briefed on the case, would seek help from a neighbor in Upper Manhattan as well as a confidential informer. That informer provided companionship and a staging area so Mr. Pimentel, a Muslim convert, could build three pipe bombs while the Intelligence Division of the New York Police Department built its case.

But it was the informer’s role, and that of his police handlers, that have now been cited as among the reasons the F.B.I., which had its own parallel investigation of Mr. Pimentel, did not pursue the case, which was announced on Sunday night in a news conference at City Hall. Terrorism cases are generally handled by federal authorities.

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And Mr. Pimentel, several of the people said, also smoked marijuana with the confidential informant, and some recordings in which he makes incriminating statements were made after the men had done so. His lawyer, Joseph Zablocki, did not return a call on Monday seeking comment.

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Read more: http://www.nytimes.com/2011/11/22/nyregion/for-jose-pimentel-bomb-plot-suspect-an-online-trail.html?_r=1



I am still at a loss for words.
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BlueToTheBone Donating Member (196 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-22-11 12:14 AM
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1. Bloomberg was trying to change the story.
It is a common crisis management strategy. Unfortunately for him, he had little to use and so now he looks like a fool as well. :shrug:
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grantcart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-22-11 12:39 AM
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4. it was either Pimentel or waking the city to the terrors of jay walking
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snagglepuss Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-22-11 12:28 AM
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2. What from what you have quoted puts you at a loss for words?
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deminks Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-22-11 12:38 AM
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3. If you read the entire article, it appears that the NYPD staged much
of this case through the informant. The FBI did not think the suspect was capable of doing anything without the informant's help.

I am always shocked when this sort of thing comes to light. I know it happens, but I am still shocked.
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PSPS Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-22-11 01:19 AM
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5. "That informer provided..." = Another manufactured case.
The suspect, Jose Pimentel, according to several people briefed on the case, would seek help from a neighbor in Upper Manhattan as well as a confidential informer. That informer provided companionship and a staging area so Mr. Pimentel, a Muslim convert, could build three pipe bombs while the Intelligence Division of the New York Police Department built its case.

But it was the informer’s role, and that of his police handlers, that have now been cited as among the reasons the F.B.I., which had its own parallel investigation of Mr. Pimentel, did not pursue the case, which was announced on Sunday night in a news conference at City Hall. Terrorism cases are generally handled by federal authorities.


I know this has become routine for the FBI and now the NYPD has adopted the same nefarious methods of manufacturing "bad guys" as needed.
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zeemike Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-22-11 09:03 AM
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9. And I am sure they always have one in the barn
Ready to roll out when needed.
Deception has become a important tool of politics
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blackspade Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-22-11 01:30 AM
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6. A pathetic attempt by Bloomberg to change the story.
This is going to backfire nicely.
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hootinholler Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-22-11 01:49 AM
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7. Rule of thumb:
If authorities use the term Lone Wolf before something goes bang, it is likely false.

A lone wolf is just that lone, or a member of a small pack that will not be infiltrated.
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madrchsod Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-22-11 08:00 AM
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8. this will be tried in state court instead of federal court
this guy will be slapped with a "to stupid" sentence and could even be found not guilty.
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