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Zorra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-25-04 11:46 AM
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N. Korea Accuses U.S. of Preparing Attack
I hope that this is not true. I really don't understand the logic behind the DRPK's assertion. How does pulling troops out of the DMZ indicate an impending attack?

By THE ASSOCIATED PRESS
Published: April 25, 2004

``The U.S. decision to take even its small force out of ... Panmunjom ... indicates that the U.S. preparations for a pre-emptive attack upon the DPRK are underway at a final phase,'' said a spokesman for the North Korean army's mission in the truce village of Panmunjom, according to KCNA, the North's official news agency.

http://www.nytimes.com/aponline/international/AP-SKorea-US-Military.html
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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-25-04 11:50 AM
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1. From the paranoia in the north it makes ALL the sense
in the world.

We are removing the troops from the Artilery fields of fire, or where a Nuke may take them all out. Of course we are pulling htem out so we can attack at our time and choosing.

The N. Korean leadership is very paranoid, but... given Rummy and the rest of the boys, are they paranoid or right?

And from a pure military point of view, removing those troops from a sure kill zone, looks like they may be getting ready.

Try to think of this purely from that POV.

That is why I fear what that train accident looks like to Pyonyang.
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Zorra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-25-04 11:53 AM
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4. Yeah, now it makes more sense to me. Thanks.n/t
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walmartsucks Donating Member (149 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-25-04 01:07 PM
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7. South Korea wants us out
It was just a few months ago that tens of thousands of students were protesting the U.S. military presence. Hopefully this is the start of a full-scale withdrawal of U.S. forces from the Korean peninsula.
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Zhade Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-25-04 02:44 PM
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15. Yep. And running over schoolgirls and getting off scott-free doesn't help.
I'D want the US out, if I were in SK.

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FreakinDJ Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-25-04 04:15 PM
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20. Not likely to happen
The last time a US troop with drawl was seriously discussed by a So. Korean leader he was executed by his own CIA
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nodehopper Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-25-04 02:39 PM
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12. we are removing troups to send them to Iraq
BushCo is not going to nuke NK and Kim Jong Il's insanity rivals Rumsfield's. This is just more crazy propaganda.
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Minstrel Boy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-25-04 11:51 AM
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2. Pulling US troops out of the DMZ indicates an impending attack because
Edited on Sun Apr-25-04 11:52 AM by Minstrel Boy
it removes the risk of heavy American casualties from North Korean artilary. Without American lives on the line, it's just South Koreans imperiled by retaliation from a pre-emptive US strike.

I've been worried about this for some time. South Korea should not have agreed to this.
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DAGDA56 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-25-04 11:51 AM
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3. Maybe they think we're getting our guys out of the way...
...before lobbing the tactical nukes.
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sallyseven Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-25-04 12:02 PM
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5. We plan to go there
as soon as we get out of Iraq, Syria, Iran and any other Islam nation.
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DAGDA56 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-25-04 12:03 PM
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6. If so, then the North Koreans are safe for years...
nt
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nodehopper Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-25-04 02:40 PM
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13. why would we go there? They have no oil.
And PNAC is only concerned with the Middle East, which will keep them busy for the next few decades.
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Zhade Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-25-04 02:49 PM
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17. "And PNAC is only concerned with the Middle East..." Untrue, sadly.
China.

It's all in their plans. They intend to encircle Russia (Caspian oil and gas, though these are turning out to be less than spectacular finds) and one day go after China. Rumsfeld has mentioned this goal of taking on China in the past. After all, you don't get worldwide global hegemony by way of military might by allowing the most populated country on Earth remain unchallenged.

Before you ask, yes, these people are completely insane.

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nodehopper Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-25-04 05:43 PM
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21. I see what you are saying
But still, *tactically* PNAC is mostly concerned with the restructuring of American presence in the Middle East. World domination is the subsequent strategic result.
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Joanne98 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-25-04 02:54 PM
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19. That train wreaks explosion was so large maybe it was a
tactical nuke test. They say it left a big crater. Did they say anything about the naval blockade they've put up? Bush just might be bluffing.
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cliss Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-25-04 01:24 PM
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8. This is the kind of shit that makes me SO nervous
Kim Jong Il is such a loose cannon. And the US, the diplomats that they are, continue to treat him like an idiot. They give him the finger and refuse to even speak to him.

Kim Jong has reason to worry: the President named North Korea as one of the 'axis of exil' and threatened to 'deal with him later', right after we take care of Iraq. He's got eyes; he sees what happened there. And he suspects he's next.

Both sides are sitting there, playing with the button, looking at each other, smiling. This is nuclear brinkmanship at its worst.

I feel that the lunatics in Washington are going to bring down bad karma on us. I just hope it isn't from Kim Jong Il.
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sazdem Donating Member (41 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-25-04 02:07 PM
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9. Hello
This is my first post so be kind... Why would the US use nukes in North Korea? The entire peninsula is about the size of Florida. The entire peninsula would be contaminated with radiation...it just doesn't make sense. The leadership of North Korea is paranoid.
I have been to Korea and most of the population is tightly packed in the big cities. A war, any war on the Korean peninsula would be a blood bath.
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Tiberius Donating Member (798 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-25-04 02:26 PM
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10. Welcome to DU
The thinking would be that we could use so-called "tactical" nukes with a limited spread of radiation as some sort of "bunker-buster".

The North Koreans are some of the best tunnellers in the world and the thinking would be that if we did not use nukes, we'd never take out their artillery and other buried armaments.

The North Koreans routinely propagandize that we are preparing to nuke them at any moment. While hyperbole, you just can't say for sure with this insane cabal running the show in the U.S.
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sazdem Donating Member (41 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-25-04 02:41 PM
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14. I certainly
....can't argue with your view of our current leadership. I do think that the use of any nuclear weapons in Korea would be a major disaster. Of course the use of Nukes anywhere is not going to turn out well.
North Korea's current leadership leaves much to be desired.Even with that being said it seems to me that this whole thing should be dealt with by the Koreans. It is a Korean problem. We are seeing an ever increasing hostility toward the American presence in South Korea. It is time to get out and let these people solve their differences without US intervention. We have enough problems of our own.



.....and THANKS for the welcome.
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cliss Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-25-04 02:52 PM
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18. Hi, Sazdem!
Welcome to the DU :party:
:toast:
:smoke:

Very nice post. And I agree, why would the US use nukes? Why would North Korea think about sending nukes to the US? It's in everybody's best interest to NOT resort to using nuclear weapons. If one party nukes the other, the other is gone.

The thing that I object to VERY MUCH is that the US talks about this kind of stuff openly. Thereby making both sides pull our their swords.

It's the threat stuff and one-upmanship that occasionally DOES cause disasters. (Ever watch any old cowboy movies, where some cowboys are sitting at a table, playing poker. Suddenly, someone accuses the other of cheating.

Next thing you know, guns are drawn. Without much of a warning, someone could get shot. It doesn't take much when tempers are hot and people feel threatened.
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newyawker99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-25-04 06:26 PM
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22. Hi sazdem!!
Welcome to DU!! :toast:
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ZR2 Donating Member (345 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-25-04 02:29 PM
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11. We need the troops
for Iraq.
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Character Assassin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-25-04 02:45 PM
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16. For the umpteenth time. It's hollow, like the country
I've lost count of how many time those kooks have rattled the exact same saber, over and over.
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