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nomatrix Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-26-04 05:11 PM
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CNN Lou Dobbs accused of outsourcing "Jihad"
http://www.reuters.com/newsArticle.jhtml?type=televisionNews&storyID=4945276§ion=news

"Echoing a recent commentary in the Wall Street Journal, Castellani added: "It's as if whatever made Linda Blair's head spin around in "The Exorcist" has invaded the body of Lou Dobbs and left him with the brain of (Democratic presidential candidate) Dennis Kucinich."

Castellani also mentioned Sen. John Kerry, the presumptive Democratic nominee, who has compared business leaders who send jobs overseas to Benedict Arnold, a notorious traitor.

Castellani contends that outsourcing and free trade reduce prices and costs, while ultimately helping to create new, higher wage jobs in the United States. His speech was entitled "The Myth of the Outsourcing Threat."

Dobbs, a longtime CNN veteran, told Reuters in a telephone interview that Castellani had declined repeated invitations to appear on his show, citing scheduling difficulties."

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wryter2000 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-26-04 05:12 PM
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1. Get him, Dobbs
Fight back! :mad:
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freetobegay Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-26-04 05:51 PM
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10. Knowing Dobbs, he will!
eom
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BlueEyedSon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-26-04 05:13 PM
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2. Dobbs rules, the other guy is a coward.
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Beacho Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-26-04 05:14 PM
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3. Sounds like anothe Friedman clone
probably on the outsource providers payroll
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denverbill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-26-04 05:15 PM
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4. The man is a bulldog, and I'm glad he's fighting the good fight.
I wish the Democratic Party as a whole had his stick-to-it-tiveness on this issue.

If this was the Democratic battle cry in 2004, we'd win in a landslide.
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aquart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-26-04 05:24 PM
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5. Didn't I just see this on the Republican season of West Wing?
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liarliartieonfire Donating Member (448 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-26-04 05:30 PM
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6. I have to get in touch with Dobbs
anyone have a link?
I searched for him on CNN.com but couldn't find him listed. (odd, I know)

tks for any info
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Qutzupalotl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-26-04 05:33 PM
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7. email
Lou.Dobbs2@turner.com
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liarliartieonfire Donating Member (448 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-26-04 05:53 PM
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11. Thank You NRK
Hope he eventually reads it..
We do the best we can when we're face to face with facism's foul breath.
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Claire Beth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-26-04 05:45 PM
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8. Lou has been doing great! n/t
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Jacobin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-26-04 05:47 PM
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9. Wonder how much longer Cnn will allow Lou to "disrespect"
derFuhrer and his policies?
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Khephra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-26-04 05:58 PM
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12. Dobbs is covering this right now
Well, they were....

Dobbs did a double-take on the "jihad" comment. You could tell he had planned it. And he called it "clever".

:evilgrin:
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maddezmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-26-04 09:04 PM
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20. repeat is on here now...will have to watch
:)
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coda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-26-04 06:08 PM
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13. " The Myth of Accounting Firms as Consultants Threat " was a good one too.
Kidding (on the square, as Franken put it). :-)


Here's the link for today's speech(in its' entirety)in Detroit.

http://www.businessroundtable.org/newsroom/document.aspx?qs=5656BF807822B0F12D5419167F75A70478154



=====

Their main site has a link for their other publications.

http://www.businessroundtable.org/

I'm guessing this lays it all out. 37 pages (pdf)


Securing Growth and Jobs : Improving U.S. prosperity in a Worldwide Economy

http://www.businessroundtable.org/pdf/20040330000brsourcing.pdf
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fearnobush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-26-04 06:30 PM
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14. Lou Rocks, the last hope for CNN.
These Greedy fucking, bottom feeding Republicans are inticing a revolution. If they keep up this kind of greed up, God knows what will happen.
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nomatrix Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-26-04 06:37 PM
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15. I think "outsourcing" is another word
beating the trainwreck that is about to happen in the U.S.

Virtually, every state is faces a severe fiscal shortage and is begging the gov't for a bailout, especially for the mandated Homeland Security alerts.

The Congressional Budget office projects federal deficits over the next five years of a $1.08 trillion, on top of existing government debt of $6.4 trillion.


GDP Gross domestic product was 4.1% last quarter of 2003.

As businesses move overseas, doesn't that become an import?

I am not an economics major, but everyone can see....the end is near.


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xray s Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-26-04 06:53 PM
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16. The Myth of Reduced Prices
Shipping manufacturing jobs overseas does not reduce prices. It only reduces the cost of labor and increases profits. Prices are determined in the marketplace. If a corporation can build something for $1,000 and sell it for $10,000 it will. If they can squeeze another $500 out of their costs by moving the manufacturing site to a ultra-low labor cost country they will, and they will pocket the $500.

There are plenty of examples of very expensive consumer goods being made in cheaper labor countries that are selling in the US at very high prices, i.e washing machines, HDTV's and automobiles.

The conservative mantra that exported jobs + cheap goods IS A LIE!!!
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radfringe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-27-04 03:21 AM
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26. the big excuse is "cheaper prices for the consumer"
which is "fine" for people who have money to buy the goods

in order to get "cheaper prices" companies lay-off US workers, and sent the jobs overseas

Laid-off US workers now have LESS money to spend -- soooo they start looking for "cheaper prices" in order to buy the goods they need

This means less money is being spent. In order to get more money - companies lay-off more workers and export those jobs

then we have even more workers with even less money too spend...which results in more lay-offs and more exporting of jobs...

it's a self-feeding economic disaster

bottom line is this -- if people don't have money then it doesn't matter how "cheap" are the products

no money -- no buy
no buy -- no sale
no sale -- no profit
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Dr Fate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-26-04 07:08 PM
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17. A lot of moderate types really like Lou Dobbs- he has credibility...
...and that is why he is now being attacked.

Average Joes, small business owners, & even some of the Suits listen to Lou...
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mhr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-26-04 07:19 PM
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18. Republicans Worst Nightmare - People Like Myself
Unemployed 4 years!

Two College Degrees: BSEE, MBA

Special Training: FAA Certified Commercial Pilot

Military Service: Officer United States Navy

Professional Work Experience: Long and Varied

Slowly becoming impoverished!

Can't get low income jobs - too much experience, too many illegal aliens
Can't find middle class white collar jobs - outsourced or already filled

Republicans say I and others did not work hard enough, or play by the rules well enough, or stay off drugs, or a whole host of other excuses used to dismiss the misfortune of others?

The argument does not hold water and myself and others are living proof of the lie!

Go Lou Go! -- Go Lou Go! -- Go Lou Go !
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PROGRESSIVE1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-26-04 07:39 PM
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19. Dobbs is going to HAMMER this MOFO! I promise you he will!
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leesa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-26-04 10:09 PM
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21. He should hope he gets DK's brain, it's a damn good one
GOPers are so stupid they are incapable of recognizing intelligence. ALL pay is going down among the peons...only the CEOs and the other whores of big business are making money. Small business is completely dead due to corporate greed.

Thank God for the sanity of Dobbs.
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Skittles Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-26-04 10:26 PM
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22. see what happens when you speak for the people, LOU?
your own f***ing kind turns on you
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moondust Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-26-04 11:26 PM
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23. "outsourcing and free trade reduce prices and costs"
Edited on Mon Apr-26-04 11:53 PM by Buzzz
Wonderful if you have so much that you will never need a job.

It's not about doing nice things for the consumer. If that were the case corporate bozos would not be pocketing obscene salaries and platinum parachutes. No, it's about corporate profits.
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Eye and Monkey Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-27-04 01:01 AM
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25. "reduce prices and costs" to the corpoRATs, NOT to the consumer.
Code. Call it "not-very-secret-code".
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rman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-27-04 12:57 AM
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24. "ultimately" is to late if you don't have an living income
"If the non-rich give money to the rich things will get better for everyone, eventually."
30 years of supply-side/trickle down economics has not delivered on that promise (actually it deliverd the reverse). Why would anyone believe it now?

".. If we are polarized country politically it might well be at least in part is because we are polarized country economically. What has been happening is a extraordinary pulling apart of the income distribution. Traditionally people look at income distribution by "quintiles", by blocks of 20%. But that is not where the action is. It is not in the top 10%, it is not even in the top 5%.

To really see what is going on you need to look at the top 1%, the top 0.1% and the top 0.01%. Then you discover that there has been an explosion of income on the very top of the scale:

top 1%
1970 9%
2000 22%

top 0.1%
1970 2.8%
2000 11%

top 0.01%
1970 1%
2000 5%

We are by these numbers fully back to and by some measures above the level of concentration of income that we had in the 1920's."
--Krugman
rtsp://real.dialnsa.edu/REAL_BEARD/spring2003_events/schwartz.rm
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Kinkistyle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-27-04 03:23 AM
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27. I like how that Rethug used the word "Jihad"
To subtly imply that Dobbs beliefs are similar to the beliefs of Hamas, Hezbollah, or Al Qaeda. In other words, being against "offshoring" (the appropriate term, btw. Nothing wrong with "outsourcing") equals being for terrorism. Ain't that convenient?
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brokensymmetry Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-27-04 04:19 AM
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28. Thank goodness for Dobbs!
And thank YOU for posting this!
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union_maid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-27-04 05:21 AM
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29. I'm sure Americans would deal with paying a bit more
We'd be very happy to pay a few dollars more for the kind of crap that can be had cheaply. The things we really need cost more than ever. Housing, transportation and education are sky high and moving out of reach for more and more people. Food prices continue to rise, at varying rates and in response to all kinds of factors. Current fuel prices should be felt at the checkout line soon if they're not now. The fact that I can get a nice paper towel holder at Walmart for cheap doesn't make up for having no job security, or in many cases, no job and no prospects.
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