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CShine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-26-04 07:51 PM
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Sorting out winners, losers in outsourcing
Outsourcing helps the U.S. economy. Rekhi Singh insists it's true. Here's one example why: Recently his company, El Dorado Hills software developer R Systems Inc., was hired for a project by a Southern California digital-broadcasting firm. Doing the work in El Dorado would have blown the client's budget. So Singh improvised. He shipped the "low-value" programming work to R Systems' office in his native India. The "high-value" work is being done by eight programmers at headquarters, including six new hires. The client can afford the project, and some jobs were added in El Dorado.

"Ultimately, if costs are saved, more jobs will be created," Singh said. "That's what America's always been about."

Try telling that to Laura Hamm. Her $40,000-a-year purchasing job at Hewlett-Packard Co. in Roseville is moving to India this month. She finds it hard to find the benefit in this. "It's good for the American economy? No," she said. "I don't know if I'm going to get a job like this again."

The debate over outsourcing intensifies with every job that moves. Pressed by global competition, U.S. corporations are shipping overseas white-collar jobs that once seemed reserved for Americans: purchasing, accounting, customer service, legal research, software coding, medical record-keeping and so on. The jobs move with the flick of a key stroke, thanks to dramatic improvements in telecommunications, and apparently no job is sacred. A study by economists Cynthia Kroll and Ashok Bardhan at the University of California, Berkeley, says 14 million white-collar jobs are at risk nationwide. Massachusetts tech consultant Forrester Research Inc. says 3.3 million jobs will leave by 2015.

http://www.sacbee.com/content/business/careers/story/9063687p-9989585c.html
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Kadie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-26-04 07:56 PM
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1. Just what kind of jobs is he talking about?
"Ultimately, if costs are saved, more jobs will be created," Singh said. "That's what America's always been about."

We will save money, hire labor over seas so we can have more money to create new jobs. OK. What are the jobs? Toilet scrubber, parking lot keeper, the person that washes your car?
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xray s Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-26-04 07:57 PM
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2. ...and when the next project comes along he'll ship the "high value"...
...jobs overseas too. What's to stop them from doing that?

Bottom line...American business is f*cking American labor, all the while telling us that they'll love us in the morning.

Sorry. I don't buy that line.
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mhr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-26-04 08:07 PM
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3. Republicans Worst Nightmare - People Like Myself
Unemployed 4 years!

Two College Degrees: BSEE, MBA

Special Training: FAA Certified Commercial Pilot

Military Service: Officer United States Navy

Professional Work Experience: Long and Varied

Slowly becoming impoverished!

Can't get low income jobs - too much experience, too many illegal aliens
Can't find middle class white collar jobs - outsourced or already filled

Republicans say I and others did not work hard enough, or play by the rules well enough, or stay off drugs, or a whole host of other excuses used to dismiss the misfortune of others?

The argument does not hold water and myself and others are living proof of the lie!

Fight The Outsourcing Fraud!
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mhr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-26-04 08:10 PM
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4. Many Of Us Are Past Knowing What To Do
Republicans say retrain.

I say for what?

They say for something the economy needs.

Like what I say?

Well you know some low wage benefit-less job with no future.

You mean like flipping burgers at McDonald's or stocking Wal-Marts?

Well yes they say.

Would you like me to slit me wrists now I say?

Sadly, several have handed me the razor blade!

Outsourcing Is Killing America!
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the Kelly Gang Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-26-04 08:30 PM
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5. I cannot stand this claptrap anymore..if I hear this lie once
Edited on Mon Apr-26-04 08:34 PM by the Kelly Gang
more:
"Ultimately, if costs are saved, more jobs will be created," Singh said. "That's what America's always been about."
I will go insane.

They think they can repeat this mantra with absolutely no evidence whatsoever. Spin , spin spin.

Outsourcing is economic traitorism , and corporations who indulge in it should be treated as such..these people have to be accused of being anti-Capitalists and anti-American ..turn their own words back on them.
Call them the traitors that they are..if they have no problem ditching US workers then their allegience is not to the USA.
Traitors..no more no less.
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mhr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-26-04 08:51 PM
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6. Hear, Hear - Tell It Like It Is Kelly Gang!
eom
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makhno Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-26-04 08:57 PM
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7. The end game is near
Once the Fed starts hiking the interest rates and people realize that credit is neither free nor endless, consumption will take a dive. Keep shipping middle class livelihood overseas and watch the service economy house of cards collapse. It's unrealistic to expect purchasing power to increase when real income has been stagnating for years.

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