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MaineDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-27-04 12:54 PM
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BBC - Syrian capital 'rocked by blasts'
Edited on Tue Apr-27-04 12:54 PM by MaineDem
A series of explosions and gunfire rocked the Syrian capital Damascus on Tuesday evening, reports say.

Sources in the city said between three and five explosions were heard starting at about 1600 GMT. The blasts were followed by repeated gunfire.

The explosions are said to have occurred near the Iranian and Canadian embassies in the city.



http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/3664811.stm


Here's the story first posted by maddezmom
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cjbuchanan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-27-04 12:56 PM
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1. Are we invading Syria?
I mean that as a joke, but the sad thing is, I could see it being true.
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NoPasaran Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-27-04 01:11 PM
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19. Not Likely
We haven't had Hate Week yet.
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keithyboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-27-04 02:18 PM
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37. The Al-Jazeera banner is down but the link is below
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Joanne98 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-27-04 12:58 PM
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2. Is anybody else reporting this?
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NMDemDist2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-27-04 01:00 PM
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4. yes just coming on CNN
and 8 minutes ago on Reuters

shows it near Canadian and Iranian embassies
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Katarina Donating Member (753 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-27-04 01:00 PM
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5. MSNBC is reporting it
haven't looked online yet though. They are saying it was right next to the British Ambassadors residence and Saudi embassy.
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demoman123 Donating Member (565 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-27-04 01:09 PM
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13. Saudi and British Embassies? Then it's Al Quaeda
These are natural targets for them.
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Ediacara Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-27-04 01:11 PM
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18. No, near the Canadian and Iranian embasies
Edited on Tue Apr-27-04 01:12 PM by DinoBoy
Although ya, that could very well be al-Qaida too...
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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-27-04 01:13 PM
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I think it is Al Qaida
personally

Syria is in their hot list, just as ours.

Folks this is just another escalation, and with Jordan foiling a
major attack yesterday.

Ironic, both Syria and Jordan are too moderate for AQ
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Ediacara Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-27-04 01:17 PM
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26. Like I said, it could very well have been al-Qaida
Although honestly, it's WAY too early to tell since there is close to no news on this yet.

I was just correcting the embassies :-)
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Katarina Donating Member (753 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-27-04 01:15 PM
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22. Conflicting reports?
MSNBC said British Ambassadors residence and Saudi embassy. I backed my TIVO up and listened to it again to make sure I got the story straight before posting. :shrug:
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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-27-04 01:16 PM
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25. Not uncommon this early
in any story like this
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Ediacara Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-27-04 01:19 PM
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27. BBC says Canadian and Iranian
Edited on Tue Apr-27-04 01:20 PM by DinoBoy
There is another report in this thread (MSNBC also IIRC) that quotes the British Ambassador as saying that the blast was at or near the Iranian embassy.

Weird...

ON EDIT: I checked, it was a Reuters report, not MSNBC.
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Ediacara Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-27-04 01:23 PM
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29. From the NYT: ...where the embassies of Saudi Arabia, Canada, Iran...
Edited on Tue Apr-27-04 01:23 PM by DinoBoy
NYT Article

Area residents, speaking on condition of anonymity, said the explosions rocked the Mazza area, where the embassies of Saudi Arabia, Canada, Iran and others are located. The British and Iranian ambassadors have their residences in the area.
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maddezmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-27-04 01:20 PM
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28. British spokeswoman says closer to Iranian Embassy: link

DUBAI (Reuters) - Blasts and heavy shooting shook the Syrian capital, Damascus, late Tuesday, Arab television stations reported.
Al Jazeera television said the blasts and shooting were heard from a western district of Damascus where it said the British ambassador's residence and the Saudi embassy are located.

Al Arabiya quoted its correspondent as reporting explosions were heard in the city. They gave no further details.

A British Foreign Office spokeswoman in London said the explosion took place on a street close to the Iranian Ambassador's residence.

~snip~
http://www.reuters.com/newsArticle.jhtml?type=worldNews&storyID=4958846

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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-27-04 01:00 PM
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6. CNN Inrweternational and
National, for the later it is running in the bottom, you know
where the real news is reported

A dime on the dollar Kobe Bryant and JaCO are bumped up... WE NEED TO DISTRACT
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maddezmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-27-04 01:01 PM
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7. CNN and CNNI are both reporting now n/t
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Just Me Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-27-04 12:58 PM
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3. Yikes!!!
:nuke:

:scared:

Are the "spooks" creating reason for invading Syria? After all, it is on the PNAC list and the neofascistcons are getting pretty desperate.
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hedda_foil Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-27-04 01:05 PM
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8. It sure looks that way ... either CIA or Mossad
there's no way this is coming from anybody in the region. The only other option is Russia or China attempting to further inflame the region against the obvious suspects ... the US and Israel. Given the history of the area, that's totally feasible too.
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Tiberius Donating Member (798 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-27-04 01:07 PM
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9. Jumping to conclusions?
There's about two sentences worth of news on this at the moment, and you already know this is the CIA or Mossad? Give me a break.
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MidwestTransplant Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-27-04 03:19 PM
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43. The SN is Hedda-Foil for a reason!
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Mikimouse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-27-04 03:51 PM
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44. Sorry, it makes more sense than assuming that it has anything...
to do with Al-Qaeda. I certainly wouldn't put it past either organization to try and inflame the Syrians and try to provoke them.
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Just Me Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-27-04 03:58 PM
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45. Anyone who has read the updated PNAC should wonder,...
,...what is really going on. Sometimes, it bothers me that others are quick to cut-off the exploration of possibilities when "Rebuilding America's Defenses:,..." is on the table of our "rulers". There is absolutely nothing wrong with an examination of all possibilities given this extremist regime we have ruling our own nation.
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Mikimouse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-27-04 04:11 PM
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47. Some learn quickly, some don't...
It helps to not be blinded by irrational ideology and nationalism. I agree with you, but would caution that we not hold our breath waiting for otherwise well-meaning people to accept all of the possibilities.
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Tiberius Donating Member (798 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-27-04 04:26 PM
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48. exploring the possibilities is one thing...
but if we're just going to assume it's the CIA or Mossad or whoever, without hearing hardly any of the facts, then why bother with reading the news at all?

Why is waiting for some more answers "cutting off exploration"?
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stopthegop Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-27-04 01:08 PM
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10. could be local...
your bias is preventing you from seeing...OBL hates 'moderate' arab govt's as much as he does the West
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shadu Donating Member (889 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-27-04 01:42 PM
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35. Bush and Sharon would have the most to gain
I would never discount Sharon's appetite for evil.
He revels in his own monstrosity.
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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-27-04 01:08 PM
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11. We don't have the troops
but you forget, Syria is also on Al Qaida's table... they are a
SECULAR state, and OBL has them on their list because of that reason
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liarliartieonfire Donating Member (448 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-27-04 01:10 PM
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16. Yes, Syria was indeed on Bush's "hot list" as he moves throughout the
Middle East 'fightin terrerists'.
Iraq was just the starting point since he could make the case for his war via bad-man Saddam.

This was never about freeing the Iraqi people from bad Saddam.
But the fools who swallowed Bush's bait, and STILL support his lies should be questioning this with today's bombing in Syria.

Bush's plan falls neatly into place. He doesn't care about the destruction left behind. That's for someone else to fix.
Bush is the most UNSTABLE force in that region.
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happynewyear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-27-04 01:24 PM
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31. yikes is right
This was my initial thought - where are the WMD was being said early on - look to Syria!

I find this whole thing to be so incredibly sickening I can barely think right now.

Is it us or them? Who is responsible and most importantly, where are those WMD? How desperate is this midadministration?

:nuke: is right! Yikes indeed!
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maddezmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-27-04 01:09 PM
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12. small update from reuters
~snip~
A British Foreign Office spokeswoman in London said the explosion took place on a street close to the Iranian Ambassador's residence.

"It is closer to the Iranian ambassador's residence than it is to our ambassador's residence... (There were no) injuries to UK embassy staff but our staff are in the process of assessing the situation," he said.

"There was no damage to the British embassy."


http://www.reuters.com/newsArticle.jhtml?type=worldNews&storyID=4958846
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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-27-04 01:10 PM
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17. Pure speculation
but it could be an attack on Iran, by Iranians. Would not be the
first time that the first strike happened against an embassy
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Ediacara Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-27-04 01:09 PM
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14. BBC update: supposedly car bombs
From the updated version of the above article:

Security sources said the explosions were caused by car bombs, but there has been no independent confirmation of this.

The BBC's Kim Ghattas, in Beirut, says it is not clear what the intended target may have been.

But she says the gunfire has quietened down, and police have cordoned off the area.
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Just Me Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-27-04 03:10 PM
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42. Here's Aljazeera's take,...
-snip-

An unnamed Syrian official told Aljazeera that a shootout occurred between "members of a terror group who randomly opened fire in the area" and Syrian security forces. Security police now say they have the area under their control.

-more at-

http://english.aljazeera.net/NR/exeres/C3DDA681-8DB7-4F34-A7D7-6B0C6B7CBF45.htm
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havocmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-27-04 01:10 PM
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15. dynamic duo gonna use as excuse to cancel Thursday chat with commission?
Will be interesting to see. Would not put it past the Chicken Hawks to hold the world hostage to avoid having to explain their actions.
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bloom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-27-04 01:13 PM
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20. Syria would sure open up an avenue for an oil pipeline.....
If that's what their goal is.....?????
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spinbaby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-27-04 01:15 PM
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21. BBC says gunfire as well
Edited on Tue Apr-27-04 01:24 PM by spinbaby
In the scroll bar at the top of the page:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/default.stm

On edit: The article is up now.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/3664811.stm
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Joanne98 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-27-04 01:15 PM
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23. Fox is reporting Arab TV says 15 blasts
I hate watching fox but they report the war more.
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maddezmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-27-04 01:23 PM
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30. CNNI reporting over a dozen blasts n/t
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Gloria Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-27-04 01:16 PM
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24. The Syrian Arabs and Kurds have also been at it lately....
Edited on Tue Apr-27-04 01:20 PM by Gloria
There have already been incidents between them and the Turkish there denied involvement (in a snipped portion)...I posted a story several weeks ago in the WMW....March 17 edition.

May be totally unrelated...but it's sure a heady internal political mix.....


3//Al Bawaba 16-03-2004
http://www.albawaba.com/news/index.php3?sid=272736&lang=e&dir=news

BID TO BRING CALM FAILS: 11 KURDS KILLED IN SYRIA CLASHES

Some eleven people were killed in clashes between Arabs and Kurds in northern Syria Tuesday.

The incident took place after at least 14 The incident took place after at least 14 Kurds, including three children, were killed in two days of clashes over the weekend with police in the town of Qameshli, Kurdish Syrian representatives reported.

Violence broke out on Friday at a premier Violence broke out on Friday at a premier league football match in Qameshli. Dozens of people sustained bullet wounds as thousands of Kurds gathered to protest against the police deaths Friday.

In an effort to bring calm to the situation, arrests were conducted by the Syrian authorities against the Kurds living. This is despite several meetings between Syrian officials and the Kurdish leadership in the area. Kurdish sources have asserted to Al Bawaba that the riots have now moved on to other Syrian cities including Aleppo, Damascus, and Hasakeh.


(SNIP)

"Previously, there was a Syrian president who had never allowed any of Syria's Baathist to speak out in favor of the regime in Iraq. In the past few years, this has changed and we have been hearing more about the toppled Iraqi regime and how it compared to the one in Syria…I think this issue help trigger a grassroots conviction that it would be easy to riot," Darwish stated.

(SNIP)


Al Hasakeh's (the Syrian province to which the town of Qamishli Al Hasakeh's (the Syrian province to which the town of Qamishli belongs to) deputy governor, Khaled Khudair, has openly accused the Kurdish political groups in the area of provoking their constituents into rioting.

"The parties that have urged such people to commit these acts of disturbance have been influenced by internal and external forces. The Kurdish residents are just pawns in this larger plan," Khudair added.

In the past, the Kurds along with several human rights groups have accused the Syrian government of ignoring the Kurdish plight including their basic human rights.

The Kurdish community in Syria is estimated at 2 million, or twelve percent of a Syrian population that now exceeds 17 million. The Syrian government does not view the Kurds in the same way the Turks do (a disregarded minority), but rather consider them as equal citizens with equal rights.


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Just Me Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-27-04 01:27 PM
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32. Sure seems like "terrorist" acts have gone up since the war,...
,...which was supposed to bring terror down.

I'll see if I can find that Oklahoma terrorist group and pin down the numbers.
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maddezmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-27-04 01:29 PM
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33. CTV link~ "terrorist band"
Edited on Tue Apr-27-04 01:32 PM by maddezmom
~snip~
Area residents, speaking on condition of anonymity, told Syrian television that the explosions rocked the Mazza area, where the embassies are located. Syrian television reported that security forces clashed with a "terrorist band" in the area.

One witness told Al-Arabiya there were more than 15 blasts.
~snip~
http://www.ctv.ca/servlet/ArticleNews/story/CTVNews/1083088866320_78498066/?hub=World
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Minstrel Boy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-27-04 01:34 PM
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34. The neocons' road to Damascus.
We won't find Michael Ledeen's in Damascus setting off car bombs, but I think we'll find whomever is behind this, for whatever alleged cause, is a patsy of the neoconservatives.

The neocons mean to destabilize Syria, and stimulate provocation so the war can spill over its borders. It may be madness, but since when has that stopped them?

Remember the recent story, regarding Jordan's "foiling" an al Qaeda chemical attack, supposedly using Iraqi WMD smuggled thru Syria? It's all part of the play.

Speculation in this recent thread regarding a possible move against Syria:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=104&topic_id=1452243
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fedsron2us Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-27-04 04:02 PM
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46. Amazing how Al Qaeda and the neoconservatives seem ...
to share the same agenda for destabilising the whole Middle East. If I did not know better I might think the two were connected. Of course such speculation would be entirely unfounded <irony off>
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-27-04 02:16 PM
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maddezmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-27-04 02:20 PM
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38. huh?
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Bertha Venation Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-27-04 08:46 PM
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49. Tell me you're not a freeper, jellofan.
Convince me.
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54anickel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-27-04 02:30 PM
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39. Three explosions rock Damascus: residents
http://www.channelnewsasia.com/stories/afp_world/view/82148/1/.html

DAMASCUS : Three explosions rocked the Mazzeh district of the Syrian capital that houses several embassies, one of them in the area of a shopping mall, residents said.

The official news agency SANA said a "terrorist group" had attacked security forces in Mazzeh.

The targeted district of western Damascus has several Western and Middle East embassies, including those of Britain, Canada, Iran and Saudi Arabia, as well as UN offices.

In London, the Foreign Office said an explosion and shooting took place close to the residences of the Iranian and British ambassadors.

snip>
Local residents contacted by AFP said sirens blared after the explosions and that security forces had cordoned off the area. Rounds of automatic gunfire were also heard.

The gunfire stopped at around 1800 GMT, an hour after the blasts, they said, adding that a university campus in the area was evacuated.

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maddezmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-27-04 02:35 PM
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40. United Nations building on fire
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Just Me Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-27-04 02:45 PM
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41. All hell is breaking loose!!!
It is like Chaos Tuesday.

Just like the PNACers wanted. Ole' "Prince of Darkness", Perle must be breaking out a bottle of bubbles and celebrating the turmoil towards his dream of all-out war.
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oblivious Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-27-04 10:19 PM
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50. A-J's now calling them "foreign special forces"
Syrian Security Units Clash with "Foreign Special Forces"

A undercover special forces operation being run by "foreign governments" became embroiled in a bloody battle in Damascus, Syria early this evening sources close to the Syrian Foreign Ministry told Aljazeera.com.

http://www.aljazeera.com/cgi-bin/news_service/middle_east_full_story.asp?service_id=1715
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