Specter leads Toomey by 53-47 . Snarlin' Arlen's leads evaporating.

[TakebackAmerica]

Here's the info.

Arlen Specter Republican 24,136 53%
Pat Toomey Republican 21,416 47%

If Specter wins, credit Rove's GOTV.
http://abclocal.go.com/three/wpvi/election/race2.htm
http://www.kywonline.com/election/race1.htm
I'll change the title as results change.

[flowomo]

1. Help ya...

keep the topic visible with a bump

[TakebackAmerica]

6. WHat do you mean by a bump?

[flowomo]

8. It's my understanding....

that topics stay atop their relevant forums by being added to.... no replies and they sink out of sight.

Hey, experienced DUers.... am I wrong?

[TSIAS]

9. Yep

BUMP = Bring up my post.

However, kick is the term used most often at DU.

[TakebackAmerica]

11. Thanks for the explanation

[mike1963]

10. A post to keep the thread closer to the top. We generally use kick

or :kick:

[MikeG]

92. 6000 vote difference with 81%

Go goober vote!!!

[ithacan]

2. that's with 3 of 9416 precincts reporting...

and a total of 199 votes...

It's early going yet.

[shockingelk]

3. 110 to 89 votes

really early, I 'd say!

[Ediacara]

4. LOL

Maybe only 199 people voted? Turnout was supposed to be low LOL :-)

[Epoch]

5. 33 of 9416 (spectre 910, toomey 720)

nt

[Penndems]

7. Bump

n/t

[TakebackAmerica]

12. kick!

:kick:

[legin]

13. this link seems to be updating the results quicker

http://www.kywonline.com/election/race1.htm

930 Of 9416

Arlen Specter 19,336 55%
Pat Toomey 15,956 45%

[Penndems]

21. Server's busy . . . can't get connected!

n/t:mad:

[legin]

32. Yep. It's snuffed it. n/t

[demdave]

14. Precincts Reporting: 1068 Of 9416 11%

Precincts Reporting: 1068 Of 9416 11%

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Winner Candidate Incumbent Votes Vote %
Arlen SPECTER X 24,136 53%
Pat TOOMEY 21,416 47%

[TakebackAmerica]

15. Snarlin' Arlen's lead's a fading.

[brendan120678]

16. So do y'all have a favorite?

Spec is much more moderate, and I gotta give him props for voting "not proven" during the impeachment trial. However, I think Toomey can be easier for a Democrat to beat come November. But if Toomey wins in November, that's bad. So I think I would rather have Spec win tonight, so just in case he wins in November, at least there will still be a moderate voice instead of a wacked-out conservative.

[TakebackAmerica]

18. Specter's hard to beat. Toomey's cake.

[brendan120678]

20. I was following the results...

On the Freeper's live thread, but I can't seem to get to FreeRepublic at the moment...seems they had a temporary stop in their service.

[legin]

22. Probably favour Spec too

I'd like to see that the resistance from moving from the 'centre' is the same for the right as for the left.

The springs on each side of the centre should be equally stiff (as it were) so I don't like the idea of Toomey winning especially after bush* campaigned for Spec too.

[MikeG]

17. Pgh. and Philly report first. Toomey country last.

Toomey could win.

[Merlin]

29. Agreed. I'm surprised Lyin Arlen's lead is so small with 25% in. n/t

.

[Prodemsouth]

43. I hope so, the future of the Democratic Party is to lure moderate

Republicans away. Arlen losing will help big time. I wish the Club for Growth success in defeating moderate Republicans. It will allow the Dems' to forget these fickle ultra leftist and tell them to take a hike once and for all. They are not serious about obtaining political power, spend an evening at DU and you will see. I want to help the people that the left claims they represent that is why I think appealing to moderate Republican will help, because it will mean actually winning an election with more reliable voters.

[hang a left]

19. Anyone know what kind of voting equipment is used?

[Penndems]

23. When we lived in Cumberland County, PA

they were using paper ballots.

[flowomo]

24. Still paper here in Cumberland (Carlisle)

n/t

[hang a left]

31. Ahhhh yes, paper. I remember when.........

[hang a left]

30. Thanks!

[mulethree]

33. mechanical

swing a red lever to the right which sets machine up and closes curtains.

Move mechanical switches to place your votes.

I don't know if it used cards or what, looked at least 40 years old

This in levittown between philly and trenton. Levittown started like 1953 so maybe these machines are 1953 vintage?

[DeposeTheBoyKing]

40. I vote in Oakmont (near Pittsburgh)

We use the mechanical lever machines that look like they've been around since the 1950s. As long as my vote counts, though, I don't care! What I really hate is not getting an "I Voted" sticker like I used to in Kansas.

[2Design]

51. I like the mechanical machines...

they put everyone in the same party on one row.....it made it easier to vote for a party.....now it is harder to know who is what...

I used to vote split tickets...Now I only want to vote dems....

[starroute]

100. I think they have gears in the back

I can remember machines like that going back to when I was a little kid and my mother would take me into the voting booth and let me move the switches for her. I'm sure they weren't new even then.

I think it's classic early-20th century clockwork, with lots of wheels and gears, like an old-fashioned cash register. When you're done and move the big lever over, all the counters where you depressed a switch advance by one and the whole thing resets.

I love those machines. They always make me feel like a mad scientist pulling the lever to bring the monster to life.


On edit: Here are some details - http://www.cs.uiowa.edu/~jones/voting/geneva/s12.html
And a picture - http://www.cs.uiowa.edu/~jones/voting/geneva/s13.html

It says they were first used in 1892 and were universal in urban areas by 1930.

[happyslug]

76. In most of the state, punch cards

Yes and hanging chads. I use punch card in the City of Johnstown. My sister use to use them in Butler County (She has since moved to Butler, but no one has changed from Punch cards yet, requires a vote).

Most of my area uses Punch cards, one or two areas still use paper ballots (Very few). Mechanical machines in Allegheny County (Pittsburgh). Thus the Rural area tend to get counted slower than the urban areas for the Urban areas use methods faster than paper ballots, but the more rural the area the more likely to retain paper ballot.

[leyton]

25. Specter's maintaining his lead.

I remember that most polls during the Democratic Presidential primaries, as they came in, remained relatively consistent. Looks like Specter pulls through.

[flowomo]

26. Now 55,678 to 49,430

n/t

[flowomo]

27. that's with 25 percent of statewide precincts reporting...

2392 Of 9416 precincts or 25%

[Penndems]

28. It's gonna be Charlie Dent vs. Joe Driscoll in the 15th

according to PoliticsPA.

[Penndems]

34. Here's the link to the ABC affiliate in Harrisburg

http://www.thewgalchannel.com/index.html

[flowomo]

35. And KDKA in Pittsburgh...

http://www.kdka.com/electionresults

[flowomo]

36. New numbers...... 88,312 to 79,865

[flowomo]

37. 32% of precincts now reporting

and holding at 53-47, Specter

[Penndems]

38. Kick!

n/t

[flowomo]

39. 137,666 to 97,360

35% in and that's 59 to 41! Arlen pulling way ahead... says KYW

[Ediacara]

41. Arlen Specter 59% | Pat Toomey 41% !? | 35% in

PA Primary US Senate

Precincts Reporting: 3251 Of 9416 35%

Candidate Party Votes Vote %
Arlen Specter Republican 137,666 59%
Pat Toomey Republican 97,360 41%

[mvd]

42. While I voted today..

I talked to a Republican who thought Toomey would pull it out. And he isn't a Toomey person. Told him that Toomey is a nut, and he only said that he doesn't come across that way. He is a Castor person. Not sure his info. means anything - he had a vague reference to the info. being given from Republicans in Harrisburg. On the local news, they did say turnout in the Philadelphia area has been light. PA Repukes chose a conservative candidate before for governor - Fisher -and that didn't turn out well for them in the general election. I'd take the risk to see Bush foiled.

[flowomo]

44. 141,627 to 132,074

43% reporting.... back to 52-48

[goobergunch]

45. Precincts Reporting: 4035 Of 9416 43%

Winner Candidate Party Incumbent Votes Vote %
Arlen Specter Republican 141,627 52%
Pat Toomey Republican 132,074 48%

http://www.kywonline.com/election/race1.htm

[BeatleBoot]

46. Specter Used To Be A Democrat, Right?

Or am I incorrect?

[Penndems]

47. OMG, DelGrosso's BEATING Shuster!

Michael DelGrosso GOP 9,427 51.51%


Bill Shuster GOP 8,876 48.49%

[flowomo]

48. YIPPEE!

Shuster did not earn that seat in any way

[MikeG]

49. Toomey carrying Allegheny County (Pittsburgh) 54-46

[Zynx]

60. Was he supposed to?

[flowomo]

50. KYW -- 285,055 to 187,437

60-40 Specter, 51% in

[MikeG]

53. That doubles his prior number with just 8% more - is it right?

[flowomo]

54. KY's #'s are weird....

a bunch for Arlen then a bunch for Toomey.... but WPVI eventually reports the same #'s

[Moderator]

52. Update

51 %

Arlen Specter
Republican
285,055
60%

Pat Toomey
Republican
187,437
40%

[flowomo]

55. 302,913 to 207,176 Specter ahead

so says KYW, 55% in

[flowomo]

56. WPVI shows thw same.... agree it's strange....59-41

n/t

[legin]

58. Weird 59 - 41 at abclocal too n/t

[Bluebear]

61. Rove's Voting machines are kicking in n/t

[MikeG]

65. We don't have electronic voting here.

[Penndems]

57. Results as of 10:29 p.m. from PoliticsPA.com

SENATE

Specter and Toomey Remain Close, 43% Reporting

Specter: 52%

Toomey 48%

4035 of 9416 precincts reporting


AG: Corbett, Eisenhower lead

PA4 Drobac wins

PA5: Peterson wins

PA8: Greenwood, Schraeder win

PA9: too close to call

PA13: Brown, Torsella lead

PA15: Dent, Driscoll win

PA17: Paterno leads

STATE SENATE

# 1 Fumo wins

# 3 Kitchen wins

[flowomo]

59. Greenwood's OK, for a Repub

....and Fumo wins! Shocking. (not). Where are you getting PA9 results (Shuster)?

[Penndems]

62. Here's the link - Harrisburg Patriot-News

(a.k.a. the Harrisburg edition of The Washington Times ;)

http://pennlive.com/elections/electioncoverage/index.ssf?PA/H_R_PA_9_39310_1.xml

[flowomo]

64. Thanks... that's a very interesting result so far

n/t

[Ediacara]

63. Specter 59% | Toomey 41% | 5136 Of 9416 | 55%

PA Primary US Senate

Precincts Reporting: 5136 Of 9416 55%

Candidate Party Incumbent Votes Vote %
Arlen Specter Republican 302,913 59%
Pat Toomey Republican 207,176 41%

[Ediacara]

66. Specter 52% | Toomey 48% | 64% reporting

PA Primary US Senate

Precincts Reporting: 6070 Of 9416 64%

Candidate Party Incumbent Votes Vote %
Arlen Specter Republican 264,870 52%
Pat Toomey Republican 246,012 48%

[TheDonkey]

72. What if toomey loonies carry bush into a PA victory?

That would be horrific for Kerry.

We'd better campaign hard against that maniac if he wins.

[Penndems]

67. Kick

n/t

[Commie Pinko Dirtbag]

68. Hey! The tallies DROPPED! WTF?

<PRE>
Precincts Reporting: 6070 Of 9416 64%
Winner Candidate Incumbent Votes Vote %
Arlen SPECTER X 264,870 52%
Pat TOOMEY 246,012 48%
</PRE>

[flowomo]

69. WPVI has new, more reasonable count: 264,870 - 246,012

Specter still ahead, 64 % in

[Zynx]

70. Off the National Review:

Bucks County Reporting Error Bucks County has erroneously reported 95,000 votes for Arlen Specter... stay tuned as the numbers are adjusted.

[Penndems]

71. Just saw this on PoliticsPA.com-thanks for posting

n/t

[flowomo]

73. 297,186 - 279,220 -- Specter ahead

71% in

[Zynx]

74. That ain't that much.

18,000 votes could be erased easily by a late surge by Toomey in some of the later reporting precincts that heavily favor him.

[flowomo]

75. Nope, t'aint...

not with the boonies yet to report.... though Specter won 13K-10K here in "conservative" Cumberland County -- 18 miles west of Harrisburg

[Ediacara]

78. Are you sure that's the order?

Generally, I thought that it was boonies first, then urban centers. Is Pennsylvania different?

[Zynx]

79. Yep. Philly is completely reported.

[Ediacara]

82. weird....

[flowomo]

77. 315,745 to 296,175

73% in

[legin]

81. I think it's Specter's now

the remaining votes have to go over 55-45 to Toomey which is probably unlikely given the pattern of the night.

Mind you I have had some disasterous predictions on the stockmarket thread before now ;-)

[Penndems]

80. "We just gained 95,000 votes, I think that's a little bit of a relief."

Quip from Toomey campaign manager Mark Dion, after learning Bucks County erroneously reported votes for Arlen Specter.

[flowomo]

83. Shuster/DelGrosso now a dead heat at 25K

n/t

[Penndems]

84. WP: Specter Takes Early Lead in Pa.'s GOP Primary

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A45712-2004Apr27.html

[Zynx]

85. kick

[flowomo]

86. 338,903-327,183.... 77% in..... 51-49 margin...

oh my

[Zynx]

87. I'd go to bed if this wasn't so close.

[flowomo]

89. Yeah, well plan on a long night...

the results will dribble in now

[MikeG]

88. Its down to an 11,000 vote margin with 76% in

The goober vote is not all counted. Toomey's vote.

[RoyGBiv]

98. Goober Vote

I think I almost killed myself...Was taking a sip of beer when I read this, and it went out my nose. :D

You should copyright that.

[legin]

90. 51 - 49 precints 77%

Arlen SPECTER 338,903 51%
Pat TOOMEY 327,183 49%

[bain_sidhe]

93. Still too close to call

There's about 12,000 votes difference, and about 200,000 votes left to be counted. (Assuming that 77% of precincts is close to 77% of total votes, since precincts are *supposed* to be as equal as possible in population.)

[flowomo]

95. Nah, precincts in PA are all over the place numerically....

especially the rural ones

[legin]

97. That chunk of 54,000 votes went 57 - 43 to Toomey

So perhaps I should keep my big mouth shut in future. ;-)

[NewJerseyDem]

91. Melissa Brown wins GOP primary in PA-13

This is according to politicspa.com. She will be a strong candidate against Torsella or Schwartz. She ran in 2000 and 2002 but lost to Hoeffel each time. However, she did quite well in this pretty democratic district.

[MikeG]

94. 6000 vote difference with 81%

[flowomo]

96. who's showing that number?

n/t

[flowomo]

99. 388,254-383,339 50-50 dead heat

n/t

[hedgetrimmer]

101. Pilots Oppose Senator Specter's Re-Election

Pilots Oppose Senator Specter's Re-Election
Voted "No" on Homeland Security Amendment that would
Arm Pilots and Protect America's Traveling Public

Washington, DC - Today the Airline Pilots' Security Alliance (APSA) alerted its members around the country to Pennsylvania Senator Arlen Specter's (R-PA) opposition to the arming of America’s airline pilots against terrorism. President George W. Bush signed the Federal Flight Deck Officer (FFDO) Program into law as part of the Homeland Security Bill, in 2002, after the United States Senate approved the program by a vote of 87-6. Senator Specter was one of the six dissenting votes.

APSA wants to make it clear to pilots and the people of Pennsylvania that Senator Specter opposed the creation of this important program, which is a vital layer of our national defense against terrorism.

"This common sense security measure was supported by liberal Democrats like Senator Barbara Boxer (D-CA), Senator Hillary Clinton (D-NY), Senator Ted Kennedy (D-MA) and Senator John Kerry (D-MA), but we couldn't count on the support of Arlen Specter," said Bob Lambert, former APSA president and Pennsylvania resident. "You would expect that those officials representing Pennsylvania, the site of one of the devastating September 11th attacks, would be more responsive to the security needs of the American people."

APSA is committed to passing legislation to make further improvements to the armed pilot program. To that end, the organization will use its resources to vigorously oppose any member of Congress that resists these efforts.

“Members of the public that support a strong stance on national security should not support any member of Congress that prevents a pilot from protecting our country against terrorist attacks," said First Officer Rob Sproc, Vice-President of APSA.

APSA, as a nonprofit, nonpartisan organization of 40,000 pilots, has the obligation to educate the public about officials who resist vital aviation security measures.

APSA is an aviation security working group, formed by professional airline pilots from every major airline in the U.S., born in the aftermath of the terrorist atrocities committed on September 11, 2001. APSA works to shape public opinion and policy by educating other pilots and the general public and working with federal officials and policy makers. APSA has had a significant
influence on our nation's approach to airline security and has briefed numerous White House, DOT, DOJ, FAA and Congressional officials.

For more information or to schedule an interview with a pilot, please call Brian Darling at [phone].
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

Somehow, I ended up on their mailing list.

[MikeG]

102. 4500 vote margin at 85%

I'm watching local news in Pgh.
Its called PCNC in the NBC afiliate.
Specter HQ is crestfallen
One unidentified Specter operative doesn't think Specter will win.

[NewJerseyDem]

103. KDKA in Pittsburgh results link

http://www.kdka.com/electionresults

7600 of 9416 (81%) Precincts Reporting
Arlen Specter I R 356,554 50%
Pat Toomey R 350,140 50%

[flowomo]

104. Got newer here:

http://www.kywonline.com/election/race1.htm

[Mattforclark]

106. This one is a nailbiter...

[flowomo]

105. 433,669 to 425,448 50-50 88% in

n/t

[MikeG]

107. 8200 at 88%

[Penndems]

108. Kick

n/t

[flowomo]

109. 434,398-426,087 89% in

n/t

[Mattforclark]

110. 89% in

Arlen SPECTER X 434,398 50%
Pat TOOMEY 426,087 50%

[flowomo]

111. Any objections to starting a new thread on this....

with a more accurate header?

[Mattforclark]

112. go right ahead :)

I hope there is a long, dirty recount battle

[flowomo]

113. the only vote I needed!

n/t

[Penndems]

114. PAPolitics.com: Recount?

With 11% of precincts not yet reporting, Toomey Campaign Manager Mark Dion said it was too early to start talking about a recount. "I'm hoping it won't be this margin."

[r_u_stuck2]

115. Recount

How are the votes counted in PA? Is it electronic? Any paper trail?

Wonder how the recount will play out. This should be interesting

[Momof1]

116. Punch card in my area, and I dare any politician to even bring up

diebold