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kskiska Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-28-04 08:54 AM
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Quayle Says Expatriates Could Decide U.S. Election
BERLIN (Reuters) - Former Vice President Dan Quayle said expatriate votes could be the deciding factor in the November U.S. presidential election and urged Republicans abroad to redouble efforts to register overseas voters.

Speaking to about 100 members of the German chapter of "Republicans Abroad," Quayle said the close 2000 race proved every vote mattered and absentee ballots cast in the pivotal state of Florida had won that election for George W. Bush.

"It's going to be another close election and we need every vote we can obtain," said Quayle, vice president under Bush's father. "It was the absentee ballots that turned the tide in Florida. Every vote counts. We all need to get that word out."

An estimated six million U.S. citizens eligible to vote live abroad -- but they had been long neglected by campaign teams.

(snip)

"If I can get everyone here to register and vote for George W. Bush, we'll be in good shape and win the election," said Quayle, 57, now a private businessman. "I'm going to take every opportunity to talk to Americans abroad about the choices."

more…
http://www.reuters.com/newsArticle.jhtml?type=politicsNews&storyID=4971276§ion=news
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buddy22600 Donating Member (426 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-28-04 08:55 AM
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1. they are just setting it up to make the supreme court
choose him again
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Tellurian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-28-04 09:13 AM
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13. Does Quayle even know the meaning of the word: expatriates? n/t
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KansDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-28-04 09:44 AM
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21. He must...
It's a word that ends in "e."
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CO Liberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-28-04 09:58 AM
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24. I Know He Can't Spell It
Dan Quayle - Pat Sayak look-alike, Vanna White think-alike.

:dunce:
Quayle
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Blasphemer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-28-04 12:23 PM
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37. Yep - Clearly their cheating efforts...
on the mainland have hit some snags. Perhaps they feel there is too much risk given the growing attention being paided to BBV. Overseas ballots would certainly be easier to fix. I hope someone in the Dem party is paying attention to this.
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Just Me Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-28-04 08:58 AM
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2. Several past articles I've read indicate ex-pats are anti-Bush,...
,...big time anti-Bush.
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Tempest Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-28-04 10:15 AM
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30. It makes sense they would be anti-Bush
They are seeing first hand the effects of Bush's unilateralism and war-mongering.

They are confronted with it every day with the hostility shown towards Bush and his policies since most of the world is against Bush.

And since most ex-pats are well-educated, they know the reasons behind the hostility are valid and just.
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prodigal_green Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-28-04 10:56 AM
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31. Also, the media
abroad isn't as skewed and pliable as it is here.
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LittleApple81 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-28-04 08:58 AM
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3. In my country of origin (Colombia) they did this! It ain't funny. The
ex-dictator (Rojas-Pinilla) came back to Colombia, regained his citizenship, ran for president in 1970... they were transmitting the poll results on the radio and TV and suddenly... no more transmission of results because he was winning. In the morning, they said that sixty thousand Colombians voting abroad (they don't even vote when the are IN Colombia) had voted giving the victory to the other candidate. That started the M-19 guerrilla movement that is one of those still existing and causing problems for everybody in Colombia.
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On the Road Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-28-04 10:05 AM
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28. Really, LittleApple?
The Columbian revolution started because of a cancelled election in 1970? Man, I never knew that, and I try to keep to keep up with these things. Thank you -- I'm going to do some research on this.
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Nicholas D Wolfwood Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-28-04 08:58 AM
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4. Glad to see Quayle stopped sucking his thumb for a minute. (nt)
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calimary Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-28-04 09:59 AM
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25. Gorgeous medal! We ought to send that to the White House.
Because poor widdle georgie doesn't have any medals from Vietnam like that mean ol' rude boy John Kerry does. Boo-hoo!
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drumwolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-28-04 08:58 AM
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5. how do US expatriates as a whole lean politically?
n/t
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underpants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-28-04 08:59 AM
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6. The analysis and insight of Dan Quayle
Hopefully he will run their "expatriate" campaign and maybe someone will tell him that military votes aren't usually considered "expatriate". How do you "obtain" votes anyway?
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chelsea0011 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-28-04 09:07 AM
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10. Expatriate....1. To banish; Exile 2. To leave one's own country
to reside in another.....from the American Heritage Dictionary

Not a definition for the military, but maybe Quayle was confusing the Army with Madonna.

And I am waiting for the results of overseas military to come in in November. We'll see how supportive they are of the Crooked Ones.
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underpants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-28-04 09:11 AM
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12. Even Fox is reporting that there could be problems recording their votes
Edited on Wed Apr-28-04 09:16 AM by underpants
On top of not giving them adequate body armor and armored HumVees BEFORE going in we also are having a very hard time getting them their mail. I saw a report on Fox a few weeks ago saying that many of the absentee ballots won't get to the soldiers/sailors/marines on time and they is little chance they will get back to the states in time.

I know the Repubs think they have the military in their back pockets but as a former GI I am pretty sure there are going to be a lot of "f--- you" votes coming from Iraq alone.
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Blasphemer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-28-04 12:26 PM
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38. No doubt the Kerry votes...
will be the ones lost or missing and they have a ready made excuse.
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underpants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-28-04 12:36 PM
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41. Jim Angle was smirking throughout the report
as usual. Yeah that is exactly what I thought too when I saw it.

I can see it now "Well Britt it appears that Kerry did not get one single vote throughout the military"

Britt:"Well one can only conclude that they don't trust him to be the Commander in Chief"

Angle:"I think that is very clear."
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Hepburn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-28-04 09:05 AM
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7. LOL, Danny Quayle
That article made me think of one of my fav comments about George Bush:

George Bush ~ the President Quayle we never had! :+
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kskiska Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-28-04 09:15 AM
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15. Mrs. Quayle agrees
As Marilyn Quayle bitterly told The Arizona Republic, “the caricature they made of Dan in ‘88 is George W. It’s him. It wasn’t true about Dan. But it is him. ... A guy that never accomplished anything. ... Everything he got, Daddy took care of.”
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5thGenDemocrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-28-04 12:09 PM
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34. Which seems to demand a quick comparison between the two
Edited on Wed Apr-28-04 12:14 PM by 5thGenDemocrat
Dan: Not too bright, skated through DePauw with mediocre grades. Dodged Vietnam in the National Guard. Hand-picked by the BFEE for a position of power. Comes from an extremely rich, extremely right-wing Republican family.
Seems to me you change "DePauw" to "Yale" and the resemblance to Dopey is scary. But stupidity aside, I don't think Quayle is quite the murderous, sanctimonious, drug and alcohol-addled nit that Chimpy is.
John
Speaking of "drug and alcohol-addled," it is now 51 days, 22 hours and 46 minutes to FUNDAY. There's a thread in "State Forums: Michigan" if you want more information.
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PATRICK Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-28-04 09:05 AM
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8. How odd
it is precisely the expats who are exposed both in media and personal contacts to the full range of anti-Bush sentiment and full disclosure we can't get over here. Even if they are rabid nutsos they can't help being affected by the worldwide antipathy toward Bush and how the disgrace gets passed on to them.

Now Quayle puts them in the spotlight even more? I bet they really appreciate that. Besides, Quayle is off the beam. The Internet voting scam for military and citizens overseas has been quashed this year.

Better start visiting those Indian graveyards instead, Danny boy, PNAC wizard.
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Gman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-28-04 09:05 AM
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9. Unique political insight
from someone that can't spell "potato".
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mumon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-28-04 09:08 AM
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11. Quayle is, as usual an idiot.
Expats aren't going to vote for Bush- they actually have more diverse media than we do.

And the troops overseas?

They're going to endorse "Mission Accomplished?" Ha!
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leesa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-28-04 09:15 AM
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16. They will if their electronic votes are altered.
Edited on Wed Apr-28-04 09:17 AM by leesa
Or if they allow many thousands of GOP votes to be illegally counted like in Florida.
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leesa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-28-04 09:15 AM
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14. PNACer fostering the illusion that it will be a close race
They MUST perpetuate this illusion or else they cannot steal the election.
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sniffa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-28-04 09:18 AM
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17. just an effort to iLLegaLLy stuff
baLLot boxes with "expatriate votes".
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hang a left Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-28-04 12:22 PM
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36. Yep.
They are probably getting nervous about their good ol diebold machines. Looking for other avenues.


We should just assume that Florida is in the bag. Work from there.
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PurityOfEssence Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-28-04 09:19 AM
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18. the German chapter of Republicans Abroad
Sorta gotta ring to it...
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Layman Donating Member (138 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-28-04 10:07 AM
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29. Far be it from me to be p.c but...
Edited on Wed Apr-28-04 10:14 AM by Layman
that's a cheap shot PoE. I mean don't you think it's highly ironic that it was the Americans baying for Arab blood while the Germans, among others, were strongly against this Oriental genocidal crusade.
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catzies Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-28-04 11:05 AM
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32. Layman, pardon me for butting in but I don't think that's what PoE meant.
I think it was meant more as a shot against the similarities between today's Republican party and their Nazi forebears from Germany long ago.

You're aware of the links between the beginnings of the Bush family fortune and the financing of the Nazi war machine, yes? Prescott Bush, "Hitler's angel?"
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Layman Donating Member (138 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-28-04 10:15 PM
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42. Nein, mein liebe
If PoE was so historicaly minded why didn't he point out the references? No it was a cheap sophomoric shot. That's what travel and being an expat teaches you. It gets one beyond the amateurish cliches and enables one to see the peoples of the world for who they really are.
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Tellurian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-28-04 09:20 AM
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19. The soldiers in Iraq are anti Bush. He's put them in harms way...
for no reason at all- (well, except for oil)

They are on the internet. They know what is going on here.

They want to come home to their families.
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GoldenOldie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-28-04 09:43 AM
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20. Informed Expat's
Anyone having family living/working abroad know better than most Americans just what Bush has accomplished with his arrogant actions.
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Stuckinthebush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-28-04 09:46 AM
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22. It is so sad....
Quayle looks like an intellectual giant next to George Bush.

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Zero Gravitas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-28-04 09:52 AM
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23. Bring It On
Republican ex-pats are not going to be very supportive of Bush as by the very nature of having actually lived in other countries they understand that the world is not the simplistic Good vs. Evil that Bush and the corporate media are fooling the dummies at home into seeing. They understand that rebuilding good relations with our ex-allies is necessary & they can see how Bush's arrogant ignorance is hurting US interests abroad. So I think these are exactly the type of Republican who are going to be the least supportive of Bush.
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Wickerman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-28-04 10:01 AM
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26. "An estimated six million" Holy Crap! We've offshored that many companies?
that is a lot of CEOs!
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Turbineguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-28-04 10:03 AM
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27. Well, let's see, Dan.
Expats. Now those are Americans living outside the U.S. Mostly in foreign countries.

These Americans are surrounded by "foreigners", sometimes known as "aliens". Many of these Expats even speak a "foreign" language.

Now about 95% of the worlds population think that President Bush is a lying sack of shit and an idiot. The other 5% voted for Bush.

I'm glad Quayle is out there stumping for Chimpy.

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Claire Beth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-28-04 11:35 AM
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33. did he ever learn the correct spelling of potato? n/t
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femmecahors Donating Member (523 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-28-04 12:18 PM
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35. I'll be voting from France . . .
and I can attest to the fact that all the Americans I know in my departement, will NOT be voting for BUSH.

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colonel odis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-28-04 12:26 PM
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39. why does quayle think a bunch of guys who used to play for new england
can influence this election?
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underpants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-28-04 12:34 PM
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40. Will Russ Francis cast his vote?
:bounce:
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dawn Donating Member (876 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-28-04 10:39 PM
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43. Expatriates won't go for Bush*.
Sorry.
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JCMach1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-28-04 10:42 PM
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44. Expats will go at least 60% for Kerry
We are higher educated on the average and WE have to deal with Bush's international fallout.
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