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Snazzy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-30-04 11:40 AM Original message |
Families of the 372nd tormented by stories of POW abuses in Iraq |
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David__77 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-30-04 11:43 AM Response to Original message |
1. Wow, they think torture is "kid's stuff." |
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saigon68 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-30-04 12:08 PM Response to Reply #1 |
12. HEY FOLKS MEET WAR CRIMINAL LYNNDIE ENGLAND |
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Skittles (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-30-04 12:11 PM Response to Reply #12 |
13. this gal has lost her sense of humanity |
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nadinbrzezinski (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-30-04 12:27 PM Response to Reply #13 |
26. war makes people do thngs that they woudl not do |
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Voltaire99 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-30-04 01:46 PM Response to Reply #26 |
47. Another way of putting what you said... |
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saskatoon (574 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-30-04 05:54 PM Response to Reply #13 |
85. "or that gal has always been that way" |
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PaDUer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-01-04 12:02 AM Response to Reply #13 |
103. Wasn't there an article recently |
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drfemoe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-01-04 12:22 AM Response to Reply #103 |
106. She does look stoned to me ... |
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Skittles (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-30-04 12:12 PM Response to Reply #12 |
15. that link isn't working |
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saigon68 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-30-04 12:18 PM Response to Reply #15 |
17. Link Fixed |
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Skittles (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-30-04 12:31 PM Response to Reply #17 |
28. thank you my sweet |
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leftchick (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-30-04 12:38 PM Response to Reply #12 |
34. hey saigon What is she doing with her hands in photo #2? |
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saigon68 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-30-04 12:44 PM Response to Reply #34 |
38. She's shooting at dudes Penis |
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Voltaire99 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-30-04 01:55 PM Response to Reply #38 |
52. Saigon68, what kind of punishment do you think they'll get? |
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nadinbrzezinski (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-30-04 02:48 PM Response to Reply #52 |
62. Yes but here we shuold not be court martialing PFC England |
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saigon68 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-30-04 03:08 PM Response to Reply #62 |
66. Its the Yamashita Principle |
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nadinbrzezinski (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-30-04 05:53 PM Response to Reply #66 |
84. Reading the whole paper tells me that |
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saigon68 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-30-04 03:03 PM Response to Reply #52 |
65. I'm no expert ----my war was over in 1973 |
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Kukesa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-30-04 06:49 PM Response to Reply #65 |
89. Military Prison? |
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Supormom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-30-04 07:10 PM Response to Reply #89 |
94. There are plenty of conservatives |
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saigon68 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-30-04 10:18 PM Response to Reply #89 |
98. I don't know Kukesa |
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PaDUer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-01-04 12:06 AM Response to Reply #52 |
104. Faux showing |
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leftchick (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-30-04 02:32 PM Response to Reply #38 |
57. Thank you for the information on Ms Nazi..... |
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saigon68 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-30-04 02:49 PM Response to Reply #57 |
63. JUST FOR YOU LC |
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seemslikeadream (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-30-04 04:59 PM Response to Reply #63 |
78. saigon68 Does this look familiar? |
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saigon68 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-30-04 11:21 PM Response to Reply #78 |
100. Viceroy Bremer and his Bildgewater Mercenary Army |
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seemslikeadream (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-30-04 11:42 PM Response to Reply #100 |
101. BILGEWATER! What you talkin bout Willis? |
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tedzbear (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-30-04 11:50 PM Response to Reply #100 |
102. I got a new name for Bremer: Little Boots |
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The Stranger (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-30-04 01:05 PM Response to Reply #12 |
42. Excellent post, Saigon68. |
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qb (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-30-04 01:17 PM Response to Reply #12 |
44. Micky & Mallory - a match made in Hell |
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IndianaGreen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-01-04 03:01 AM Response to Reply #12 |
109. Her mother sounds like a Freeper or an idiot, which is the same thing! |
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SemperEadem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-30-04 06:32 PM Response to Reply #1 |
87. When Iran paraded the hostages back in the 70's |
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seemslikeadream (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-30-04 11:47 AM Response to Original message |
2. Thanks for that - it the first I've seen with names |
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nadinbrzezinski (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-30-04 11:52 AM Response to Original message |
3. This fits Lifton Psyck profile to a T, |
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northernsoul (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-30-04 12:17 PM Response to Reply #3 |
16. What's the Lifton profile? |
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nadinbrzezinski (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-30-04 12:41 PM Response to Reply #16 |
36. Jay Lifton |
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Snazzy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-30-04 11:09 PM Response to Reply #36 |
99. "Whoever assigned this unit to the prison, knew what they were doing. " |
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PaDUer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-01-04 12:16 AM Response to Reply #99 |
105. There's a lot of |
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Snazzy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-01-04 01:45 AM Response to Reply #105 |
108. Yep, there is an Arabic one somewhere |
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displacedtexan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-30-04 11:54 AM Response to Original message |
4. Sounds like no one wants to face the facts. |
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Just Me (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-30-04 11:55 AM Response to Original message |
5. Will the full weight of this issue will ever sink into these folks? |
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seemslikeadream (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-30-04 12:12 PM Response to Reply #5 |
14. Just Me have you seen the lego sets these guys played with as kids |
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Just Me (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-30-04 12:22 PM Response to Reply #14 |
23. Those aren't for real,... |
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seemslikeadream (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-30-04 12:24 PM Response to Reply #23 |
24. Actually they are real |
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bobthedrummer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-30-04 11:55 AM Response to Original message |
6. But I thought the abuse and torture came from the MERCENARIES |
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Judi Lynn (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-30-04 11:55 AM Response to Original message |
7. Excellent article from the Baltimore Sun on the MP's |
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glitch (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-30-04 12:02 PM Response to Reply #7 |
10. like mother like daughter, apparently. or, |
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northernsoul (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-30-04 12:19 PM Response to Reply #10 |
19. how much you want to bet the England household was abusive? |
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Judi Lynn (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-30-04 12:44 PM Response to Reply #19 |
39. Probably true, but the "buck stops here" needs to happen at some point.n/t |
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TolstoyAndy (493 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-30-04 12:22 PM Original message |
Geneva Convention |
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Mayberry Machiavelli (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-30-04 05:12 PM Response to Reply #7 |
81. Yee wasn't found guilty of squat. |
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cynic4life (14 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-30-04 11:56 AM Response to Original message |
8. that female soldiers mother is complaining |
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readmylips (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-30-04 12:01 PM Response to Original message |
9. The woman pointing at the guy's groint.... |
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mtnester (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-30-04 02:19 PM Response to Reply #9 |
55. Gawd.... |
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Christ was Socialist (649 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-30-04 03:20 PM Response to Reply #9 |
67. mobile home lynndie... |
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2Design (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-30-04 12:06 PM Response to Original message |
11. Those poor parents |
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nadinbrzezinski (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-30-04 12:20 PM Response to Reply #11 |
20. Wrong soldiers are taught to obey |
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bloom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-30-04 12:31 PM Response to Reply #11 |
29. " How are we different than those in other nations who allowed evil..." |
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nadinbrzezinski (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-30-04 12:32 PM Response to Reply #29 |
30. Force them to face the evil |
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Just Me (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-30-04 12:42 PM Response to Reply #29 |
37. What's worse is that they also buy into another delusion,... |
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TolstoyAndy (493 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-30-04 12:18 PM Response to Original message |
18. Perfect candidates |
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nadinbrzezinski (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-30-04 12:22 PM Response to Reply #18 |
22. this is just the tip of the iceberg |
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Voltaire99 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-30-04 02:01 PM Response to Reply #18 |
53. Excellent point. (n/t) |
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ninkasi (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-30-04 12:22 PM Response to Original message |
21. We are becoming what we used to hate |
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nadinbrzezinski (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-30-04 12:25 PM Response to Reply #21 |
25. We need to take a stand NOW |
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zbdent (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-30-04 12:30 PM Response to Original message |
27. What, they haven't tried the "Hey, those aren't from Gitmo! They're from |
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nadinbrzezinski (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-30-04 12:35 PM Response to Reply #27 |
33. their lawyers are trying a more creative one |
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thebigidea (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-30-04 12:34 PM Response to Original message |
31. "tormented," huh? Interesting choice of words. |
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not systems (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-30-04 01:47 PM Response to Reply #31 |
48. The victimizer depicted as the victim once again. |
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DinahMoeHum (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-30-04 12:34 PM Response to Original message |
32. Piss-poor training and piss-poor leadership. . . |
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saigon68 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-30-04 12:48 PM Response to Reply #32 |
40. No one in any unit I was ever in would tolerate this SHIT |
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bobthedrummer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-30-04 01:02 PM Response to Reply #40 |
41. It's corrupt imo, saigon68-it's that bad now. |
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saigon68 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-30-04 01:30 PM Response to Reply #41 |
45. I agree Bob-- these are extraordinary times |
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Tinoire (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-30-04 01:37 PM Response to Reply #41 |
46. These pictures first surfaced on porn sites / world of hurt for us I think |
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Tinoire (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-30-04 01:49 PM Response to Reply #40 |
49. NOT to defend them |
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saigon68 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-30-04 02:59 PM Response to Reply #49 |
64. If fact I believe you are correct |
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Tinoire (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-30-04 03:53 PM Response to Reply #64 |
72. I asked myself that question... 17 were suspended in Nov/Dec |
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nadinbrzezinski (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-30-04 05:59 PM Response to Reply #72 |
86. IN a way avoidng the embarrasment of |
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TahitiNut (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-30-04 07:00 PM Response to Reply #49 |
91. "confiscating every single camera"? - Please, think about this. |
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Tinoire (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-30-04 07:15 PM Response to Reply #91 |
95. Ah... and right down the Nazi trap then |
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PaDUer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-01-04 12:27 AM Response to Reply #40 |
107. Then * has the balls |
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uncle ray (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-30-04 12:39 PM Response to Original message |
35. read the article! |
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Tinoire (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-30-04 01:52 PM Response to Reply #35 |
50. Natural Born Killers... Micky and Mallory |
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saigon68 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-30-04 01:54 PM Response to Reply #35 |
51. We heard rumblings in Feb about this |
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atreides1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-30-04 05:40 PM Response to Reply #51 |
83. Actually |
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The_Casual_Observer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-30-04 01:05 PM Response to Original message |
43. We are in Iraq to liberate them from a madman |
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proust (2 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-30-04 02:12 PM Response to Original message |
54. how many times have we heard... |
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Greylady (156 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-30-04 02:30 PM Response to Original message |
56. I'm wondering if these photos |
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seemslikeadream (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-30-04 02:41 PM Response to Reply #56 |
60. What is happening in Fallujah is a result of the 4 mercenaries killed |
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Greylady (156 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-30-04 02:45 PM Response to Reply #60 |
61. But weren't the mercenaries killed in response to |
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seemslikeadream (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-30-04 03:46 PM Response to Reply #61 |
70. I'm sorry you could be right |
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Greylady (156 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-30-04 04:56 PM Response to Reply #70 |
76. I understand |
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seemslikeadream (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-30-04 05:09 PM Response to Reply #76 |
80. and I'm really po'd about the mercenary thing |
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SemperEadem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-30-04 06:51 PM Response to Reply #56 |
90. Friday is their day of worship, so papers were shut down |
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daleo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-30-04 02:32 PM Response to Original message |
58. I give it about a week |
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nadinbrzezinski (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-30-04 02:39 PM Response to Reply #58 |
59. Yep it is again part of the Lifton |
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daleo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-30-04 03:29 PM Response to Reply #59 |
68. Speaking of cognitive dissonance |
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Eye and Monkey (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-30-04 03:42 PM Response to Reply #58 |
69. Less than a week. If not already, then by tomorrow morning. |
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saigon68 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-30-04 03:47 PM Response to Reply #69 |
71. HOW ABOUT RIGHT NOW-- REPUKE TRIAL BALLOON |
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Eye and Monkey (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-30-04 04:01 PM Response to Reply #71 |
73. It'll get louder. As for the quoted professor, his c.v. and links - |
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daleo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-30-04 04:05 PM Response to Reply #71 |
74. "Perlmutter" - an oddly appropriate name, given what he is saying |
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saigon68 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-30-04 04:58 PM Response to Reply #74 |
77. That was Fresh wasn't it |
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seemslikeadream (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-30-04 05:05 PM Response to Reply #77 |
79. A couple more pictures for ya |
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kodi (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-30-04 08:37 PM Response to Reply #79 |
97. jesus christ. paul "maud dib" bremmer with his fedykin |
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sampsonblk (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-30-04 04:23 PM Response to Original message |
75. Marylanders??? UMES??? In it for the money??? Nawwwww! |
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gate of the sun (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-30-04 05:35 PM Response to Original message |
82. they hate us because we buy homes |
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roguevalley (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-30-04 06:42 PM Response to Reply #82 |
88. god only knows what's happening to Matt Maupin right now. :( |
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Kukesa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-30-04 07:03 PM Response to Reply #88 |
92. Amen. |
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atreides1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-30-04 08:32 PM Response to Reply #88 |
96. Maybe Not |
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progressivebydesign (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-30-04 07:10 PM Response to Original message |
93. These poor people are in denial... |
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