North (Korea) Deploys New 4,000Km Range Missiles

[UpInArms]

http://english.chosun.com/w21data/html/news/200405/200405040031.html

North Korea has begun work on deploying intermediate range ballistic missiles (with ranges of 3,000~4,000km) it developed last year, building underground bases at two sites. This is much sooner than South Korean and American military authorities had expected.

A high ranking government source said Tuesday that, "North Korea is in the middle of building two underground missile sites in Yangdok County, South Pyongan Province and Sangnam-ni, Hochon County, North Hamgyeong Province. Construction is about 70 to 80 percent complete."

The source added, "In particular, U.S. spy satellites have discovered about 10 of the newly designed IRBMs and mobile launchers at the two sites between last year and the beginning of this year... We presume these bases to be for a new kind of ballistic missile, not Rodong 1's or Scud's."

Of the ranges of missiles currently deployed in North Korea, the Rodong 1 has the longest at 1,300 km -- capable of hitting most anywhere in Japan. The Taepodong 1, developed in 1998 and with a range of 1,600~2,200 km, has yet to be deployed.

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[radwriter0555]

1. Yeah right. RATTLE THE SABRES! SHIFT THE CANNONS!

Exchange the name NORTH KOREA for IRAQ and you have a propaganda war in the making.

No offense, but you DO realize this is a Rev. Sun Myung Moon source, right?

[0007]

2. Thanks for the heads up!!

So when the 4,000Km Range Missiles becomes 20,000Km Range Missiles, will we nuke North Korea, 'eh?

Frank Gaffney (Center for Security Policy) is on Washington Journal right now sprewing his lies and saying the same old bullshit how junior did the right thing by going into Iraq and that WMD were not the reason for going to war. It's better to fight 'em over there than here. I can't stand this man Frank Gaffney.

[ufansdilligaf]

3. a Rev. Sun Myung Moon source

Point taken. Is the report true or not? If it is then a single US air sortie could take out every one of these sites and push NK back 10 years in their missile program. How many more NK citizens will starve to rebuild their suicidal missile programs?

[radwriter0555]

14. it's all propaganda and lies. NK isn't a threat, hasn't been a threat

and isn't going to BE a threat unless the bush regime greed forces them to DEFEND themselves.

Google oil+reserves+ north+korea, then you'll get it.

[daleo]

15. U.S. spy satellites were wrong about Iraq

Why would they be better about North Korea, a country with a topography that makes it much easier to conceal activity. This is just fresh warmongering by the BFEE clique. Although Bush may want to test out some of those fancy North Korean torture techniques - you never know where you might pick up a tip or two.

How many U.S. citizens will be denied basic health care to rebuild their suicidal ballistic missile programs?

[Nihil]

4. What do you mean comrade?

Of course we are at war with North Korea.
We have always been at war with North Korea.
Iraq are our allies.

Long live Big Brother.

[chenGOD]

21. Errm sorry, just to clear one thing up...

But I'm pretty sure that the Chosun Ilbo is not a Moon Sun Myung source. It is a very conservative newspaper, very much in favour of an alliance with the USA, but it has been very critical of the Moonies in the past.

Where did you get your information from please?

[BiggJawn]

5. Never mind that, Saddam had a Posse!

And that posse read George Hayduke's books and that's why we went to war.

"Mr. Hair" has missles that can hit Las Vegas? (YAWN!)

North Korea is not on PNAC's RADAR...

[nodehopper]

6. is it just me, or is the title misleading?

When I read "deploys" I imagine missiles are, like, in the air already

[truhavoc]

9. I think you are thinking of the term "launch" instead.

deploy:
1 a : to extend (a military unit) especially in width b : to place in battle formation or appropriate positions
2 : to spread out, utilize, or arrange especially strategically
intransitive senses : to move in being deployed

[Vladimir]

7. Well that at least should ensure

that NK will not be invadded any time soon...

[AZCat]

8. So what does that mean? Well, 4,000 km means it could reach...

Note: 4,000 km is approximately 2,500 miles.

Using 40 Deg. North, 128 Deg. East as the base (because I couldn't figure out where the two missile sites were), I used the http://www.gb3pi.org.uk/great.html to calculate distances to various 'targets'.

Target___________Distance To (miles)
Washington, DC___6750
London__________5350
Baghdad_________4510
Beijing___________930
Moscow_________4030
Tokyo____________710
New Delhi_______3050
Hawaii__________4350
Canberra________5330
Jakarta_________3450
Seoul____________210

I find it's helpful to get an idea of how far this range really is. I rounded because the lat./long. were approximate.

On Edit: Stupid multiple spaces are 'eaten' and I replaced them by '_' to make the table more readable (nevermind, it still looks like crap).

[truhavoc]

10. It could hit anywhere in AK, HI, or the West Coast could it not? n/t

[AZCat]

13. Just because you asked...

San Francisco 5460
Los Angeles 5810
Seattle 5040
Anchorage 3600

Remember, these are all 'approximate'.

[truhavoc]

20. Thanks for clearing that up, you have an approx on Hawaii?

[AZCat]

23. Yeah, Hawaii's about 4350 miles. n/t

[truthisfreedom]

28. which would be 6960 km.

[frankieT]

11. but the distance to USA west coast ?

SF, LA ???

[AZCat]

12. Naah, even Hawaii's too far.

On Edit: See post #13 for SF, LA distances.

[daleo]

16. It's a good table

Very informative and readable.

[Occulus]

17. nevermind

silly me.

[Mattforclark]

22. What about Guam?

[ConcernedCanuk]

18. NK has no intention of invading anybody, - sheesh!

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They know that to do so would ensure an attack from the US if it was a US interest

From China if it was a Chinese interest

and from Russia if it was a Russian interest,

All who have THOUSANDS of nukes.

Kim may be a nasty guy, but I don't think he's an idiot.

Kim's nukes are a deterrent, plain and simple.

Feckadee, the whole world is still watching what happens to a country the US doesn't like if they DON'T have nukes.

While this may not be a popular opinion, I think Kim would be nuts if he gave up his nukes.

The US would be in there like a dirty shirt, offering them "democracy"

Just like they are doing for Iraq.

Some deal that is.

NK is no threat to the world.

On the other hand,

The US is . . .

(sigh)

[The Stranger]

19. All of the names of their missles include the word "dong."

Postmodern Deconstructionists are having a field day, I'm sure.

[psychopomp]

29. Are PoMo people around these days?

I've been off the hill for awhile so I had the impression that pomo is no longer in vogue.

On NK, let the Koreans work it out. They will, I think, sooner rather than later if the U.S. keeps out of the way. Koreans on both sides would rather unite, it is more about the terms and conditions of that reunification.

[PATRICK]

24. It does sound like

"here's a bombing target to put NK in its place." Considering and publicizing threats about strikes against NK nuke facilities has been going on since before Bush. The big drawback is in provoking a mad reaction by NK that could devastate Seoul and create a massive war with higher casualties in a day than thirty years in Iraq.

When a person steps back it is a sign he is ready to shoot. Rumsfeld's early call for fallback positions or bugging out offshore always seemed to me to be setting that stage, but they had Iraq on their mind to the exclusion of all else.

Moon wishes. They want to simply slough off NK more than ever, but they do it as stupidly and ham-handedly as anything else. Nor will they ever allow rapprochement or concessions to heal the dangerous impasse.

A lot of things have been going on which never is analysed properly or paid attention to much in America. The impeachment coup backfired.
This may be Moon acting as a connduit to stir up more trouble.

[chenGOD]

25. One more time for the cheap seats. This is NOT a MOON publication

This is a very conservative paper in South Korea. Hell in the past the Chosun Ilbo has been very critical of Moon Sun Myung. It's also been around since the Japanese colonial period. Which was before the Moonies started up.

So yeah, not related to Moon Sun Myung in any way.

[Snow]

26. And while I don't have a source, I do remember reading that

while NK may have range on those missles as advertised, they don't have accuracy worth a hill of beans.

[Nihil]

27. Wonder if they have NK freeper equivalents?

"Hell, if it's going 4,000km away, who gives a shit about its accuracy?"