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NNN0LHI Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-05-04 06:24 PM
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Bush admits pope "repulsed" by torture pictures
http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=/afp/20040605/pl_afp/italy_us_bush_vatican&cid=1521&ncid=1473

ROME (AFP) - US President George W. Bush (news - web sites) said Pope John Paul (news - web sites) II was as "repulsed" as he was by the pictures of Iraqi prisoners being abused by US soliders at Abu Ghraib prison.


"Like his Holiness, I was repulsed by the pictures I saw about the treatment by some of our troops toward Iraqi prisoners," Bush told a press conference in Rome about his audience with the leader of the Roman Catholic Church the day before.


In his first reaction to his audience with his Iraq (news - web sites) policy's fiercest critic, Bush told reporters the meeting "was a very constructive, positive, visit".


In an apparent allusion to Abu Ghraib, the pope said the "deplorable events" had troubled the civil and religious conscience of all "and made more difficult a serene and resolute commitment to shared human values".

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molly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-05-04 06:26 PM
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1. DAH - geez - repulsed is small when one is in charge
:shrug:
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TahitiNut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-05-04 06:31 PM
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2. Ahhhh yes ... DimSon has soooo much in common with the Pope.
Jeeesus Keeerist! The fratboycheerleader's arrogance is boundless!
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Ilsa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-05-04 06:34 PM
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3. That and human DNA are all they have in common, and frankly,
I don't believe for a minute that * was repulsed by the crimes that have produced over 100 investigations.
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Eye and Monkey Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-05-04 09:20 PM
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18. Hmm. Chimps don't have "human" DNA.
But chimps and human do share 90-something percent of the same DNA.

And frankly, I think that Junior's missing some of the basic primate DNA structure as well.
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Ilsa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-05-04 09:58 PM
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20. I think it's over 97% or 99%. It's an amazing number!
Junior might be more reptilian like his mother!
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Eye and Monkey Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-05-04 10:26 PM
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21. Gluttonous reptiles, both.
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peacetalksforall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-05-04 06:36 PM
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4. Mark his words for they may also come back to haunt him.
Edited on Sat Jun-05-04 06:37 PM by higher class
Repulsed by his own policies. My My.
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w4rma Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-05-04 06:44 PM
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5. "pictures". The headline writer seems to want to focus on "picutres"
rather than "actions". As if to say, it's okay unless the American people know about it.
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Malva Zebrina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-05-04 06:45 PM
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6. Bush admits pope "repulsed" by torture pictures
Edited on Sat Jun-05-04 06:53 PM by Marianne
isn't that grand of our president? I mean to actually "admit" that the Pope was "repulsed" by torture pictures, is absolutley an indication that we have a real "leader" as our president

Has it occurred to anyone that Bush and Rove and Laura even have intuited that this Pope can be exploited and used because this Pope will NOT dare to come out in an stronger way than the wussy way he has in the past three years?"

Bush knows he can bully his bulldozer over this elderly man, Ergo, all of the bloviating in the press releases.

Bush, accompainied by his black veiled wife, has pre-empted and run rhoughshod over this spiritual leader. This was a no contest for him and for Laura.
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DemBones DemBones Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-05-04 08:04 PM
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15. If they think they can bulldoze John Paul II,

they are deluding themselves. Your comment about the pope only coming out against the madness of Bush* in a "wussy way" makes me wonder what you think JP II should do. He's been clear about his disapproval of the US war on Iraq and he didn't back down on it today. Bush* may have thought he could avoid criticism from the pope by presenting him with that medal. Certainly the timing of awarding it was interesting.

George always looks like a kid in the principal's office when he meets with the pope, partly because he needs a booster seat in that big chair. This time, he knew he'd been really bad so he took along a gift for the principal. It didn't help. The pope is polite but he will not shrink from speaking the truth about moral issues.

Bush* had to sit there and take it because he's courting the Catholic vote back home. Gotta have that photo op with the pontiff to show to those dumb mackerel snappers, ya know! Karl's been workin' on them since 2000, tellin 'em how pro-life and godly I am, tellin 'em how much I respect the Catholic faith. What a laugh!
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Darranar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-05-04 06:53 PM
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7. "Repulsed" by actions he approved of? n/t
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Just Me Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-05-04 06:59 PM
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8. While Bush created the climate for such atrocities,...
,...he stays the course, blindfolded, asserting that he is doing "God's will". Maybe, with his "instability" becoming more visible, his hallucinations of tortured prisoners coming after him will increase over the next several, stressful months.
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PaDUer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-05-04 07:04 PM
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9. He's in la la land...
thus = a dangerous demented creature.
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cliss Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-05-04 08:43 PM
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17. Yeah. Isn't that a spooky thought?
I read somewhere that the spirits of the dead Iraqis are floating through the ether in the White House. They visit the Bush administation in their dreams. Their ghostly pale white faces float by, as Karl Rove calls a meeting to order.

As Douglas Feith has sweat building on his forehead, trying to maintain control of the Pentagon.

Rumsfeld, in his insane state of mind, is prodded and tormented by these spirits.

I've read that this is the reason they're coming apart in Washington. Interesting thought, no?
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amber dog democrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-05-04 11:26 PM
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22. They have much to attone for.
And all eternity to pay for their actions. Scarey thought. If there is an afterworld, there ought to be a nice reception waiting for them .
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mn9driver Donating Member (877 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-05-04 07:07 PM
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10. Translation problem:Pope really said he was repulsed by Bush
:evilgrin:
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Geo55 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-05-04 07:17 PM
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11. "was a very constructive, positive, visit".
Edited on Sat Jun-05-04 07:17 PM by Geo55

Which means I made nice to the old man fow a little while...and got that "appearences" thing done.....enough of that crap...."my" father's better than his anyway.
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LiberalFighter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-05-04 07:20 PM
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12. I doubt that gw* was repulsed...
considering that he enjoyed sticking lit firecrackers in frogs.
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NJCher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-05-04 07:32 PM
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13. "constructive, positive visit..."
Yet another bush annoyance. bush praises profusely. "He has a good heart." "He's a great man." "Constructive, positive visit."

Who cares what he thinks.


Cher
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Tellurian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-05-04 07:52 PM
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14. Bush distances himself from the "culprits"
quotes from yahoo article:

Bush says:

"The treatment did not reflect the spirit of America. Those people stained our honour," said the president, who reaffirmed there would be a full, transparent investigation."

"And it's important for the people of the Middle East to see the rule of law, and to see somebody being held to account in a transparent way."

..will Bush live to regret his own words? When it is common knowledge he along with Gonzales and Rummy deliberately skirted the Geneva Convention to administer and humiliate the torture documented in the pictures?

Berlusconi soothing the Beast, tongue in cheek..(I hope):

"Bush's views were defended by his staunch ally, Italian Prime Minister Silvio Berlusconi, at the joint press conference which came before the president left Rome for Paris."

"I must highlight the deep difference between a dictatorship, where torture is usually standard practice and continuous, and democracy, which has the ability to denounce it, to report the mistake and punish the culprits in a very clear way," said Berlusconi."

Thanks for understanding, Pres Berlusconi:

"He said the United States did not bear collective responsibility for what occurred at Abu Ghraib.

"The crime of one or a few people cannot be blamed on a whole population," he said.
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jdj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-05-04 08:17 PM
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16. Those self-centered homosexual soldiers.
And those self-centered Iraqi rape victims who would abort the children of the soldier/rapists if they could.

Everybody is just so self-centered nowadays. No wonder Pimp John Paul is repulsed.
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many a good man Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-05-04 09:45 PM
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19. For his penance, Bush* got 10 Our Fathers & 10 Hail Marys
In their private session, the Pope probably showed Bush* the Church's own secret digital photo album of abusers...
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Judi Lynn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-06-04 12:23 AM
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23. If he thought THEY were bad, he'd no doubt have a heart attack
trying to comprehend the ones they are concealing from the American public.
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Lou_C Donating Member (944 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-06-04 12:26 AM
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24. Is the Chimp compairing himself to the Pope
Edited on Sun Jun-06-04 12:26 AM by Lou_C
They were both repulsed at the same time :puke:.

What next is the Chimp going to want to ride in the Pope Mobile?
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