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dArKeR Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-06-04 12:59 PM
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Two Koreas reach agreement to open road and rail links
AFP , Seoul
Sunday, Jun 06, 2004,Page 5

South and North Korean officials announced yesterday that they had reached an agreement to open cross-border roads and make test runs on two railways across their heavily fortified frontier in coming months.

Under the accord, which followed a four-day meeting of economic officials in the North Korean capital, the two sides will open two roads, one across the western part of the inter-Korean border and the other in the east.

They will also test-run two railways running alongside the roads, a media pool report from Pyongyang said.

"The South and North ... shall test run on the linked sections of the railways in October 2004," said a joint statement.

http://www.taipeitimes.com/News/world/archives/2004/06/06/2003173940
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jokerman93 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-06-04 01:02 PM
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1. This could be the two Koreas
This could be the two Koreas beginning to realize they're both nuts if they leave their fate to the whims of the American empire.
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patdem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-06-04 01:04 PM
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2. Seems the USofA is no longer needed??? before bush* ...
the USA would have been prominent in the talks and claimed to be the arbiters of the unification...but bush* has made the USA irrelevant for peace...but you need a war??? I cannot wait for this poser to be outta MY whitehouse!!!
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barbaraann Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-06-04 01:07 PM
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3. Maybe ohmynews helped achieve this.
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nolabels Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-06-04 01:52 PM
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8. We here in the US should be doing the same
Great info thanks
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barbaraann Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-06-04 01:54 PM
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9. I really wish we had something like that, too.
That would be a good thing for Al Gore to do.
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nolabels Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-06-04 02:20 PM
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10. My guess is these people are somewhat similar to indo-china and Iraq
They have endured centuries of wars and have woven into their social fabric and contact a apparatus that keeps news (we call gossip ) current and mostly factual. They have learned to rely on the word of the street to keep everything functioning no matter what or who invades their world. The fools always want to conquer them, when they really should be embracing them for the tenacity and spirit.
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barbaraann Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-06-04 02:41 PM
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11. Interesting.
And we've got Fox News and the RW radio shows. :-(
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nolabels Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-06-04 04:51 PM
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12. Well it all depends on how you focus
I never listen or watch any of that trash. People do what works but it sometimes takes awhile till reality catches up to them. The Cold War morphed into each side being just like the other side. Some Outposts didn't get the memo, but thats just because no body else got one either.

The first thing that pops into my head when I am reading something is what the parties involved are trying to hide. Whether it be the source, the reporter, the editor or the corporation that controls it or maybe even something else. I like to question everything to figure why or if it would, does or had worked before

The guy that wrote this left much out to fit his diatribe, but at least he is throwing water on something, you can only put so much in a snip and so the bottom of the story does get more where to frou, but that's also when lying by omission takes place.

http://www.bigeye.com/010203.htm
PYONGYANG BLUFF POKER
Jan. 2, 2003

NEW YORK - This column has warned since 1993 of the danger posed by North Korea's odious Stalinist regime and its nuclear weapons. But lately, we confess a measure of amusement, even sneaking professional admiration, for North Korea's `Dear Leader,' Kim Jong-il, for playing a really sharp game of Pyongyang Bluff Poker.

Though he resembles a hostile alien in a Japanese science fiction film, and rules over a bankrupt nation suffering mass starvation, Kim has thrown the mighty United States on the defensive, terrified his neighbors, churned up anti-American sentiment in South Korea, and exposed the illogic, hypocrisy and contradictions of President Bush's rational for war against Iraq.

By revealing his nuclear arsenal and kicking out UN inspectors, Kim Jong-il was in effect telling Bush, `you want a war? Try one against a real opponent, not almost defenseless Iraq. We've got nukes, germs, poison gas, missiles galore and a million tough troops. Remember your `Axis of Evil' tirade? Here we are, the Asian Axis. Come and get us.'

Clearly flustered, President Bush responded to Kim's dare by first hinting at war, then backing down and calling for negotiations. The same president who categorically refuses to negotiate anything with Iraq. Bush's embarrassing double standard over Iraq and Korea has provoked derision around the world.
(snip)
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teryang Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-06-04 01:08 PM
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4. Rail line politics are immensely significant in Korea
They can lead to war or peace. This is a great advance in Korean relations. No doubt will be hearing of some American move soon to screw it up.
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Just Me Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-06-04 01:12 PM
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5. If this is a "bad" thing,...I give up.
BUT, I won't give in to all those who project negativity 24/7.

Hope for respect and equality is the key to freedom.
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dArKeR Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-06-04 01:32 PM
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6. You guys are so funny! I was going to write everything each one of you
above wrote but I didn't want to sound 'Un' American. LOL! Amazing!
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keithyboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-06-04 01:44 PM
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7. Notice this happened after US announced deploying troops from SK
Just think how things might turn out if we would get the hell out of S.Korea period! These brothers and sisters might resolve their own problems.
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chenGOD Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-06-04 11:12 PM
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13. Some more good news from these talks.
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nolabels Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-06-04 11:43 PM
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14. * the uniter (Thanks, very much for the Link to the info chenGOD)
Edited on Sun Jun-06-04 11:51 PM by nolabels
When these folks realize they have more in common with each other than the people trying to tear them apart, things will be better for most everybody (let me post it up here for chenGOD)

http://www.koreaherald.co.kr/SITE/data/html_dir/2004/06/05/200406050027.asp

Generals reach accord avoiding sea clashes, ending propaganda along border

MOUNT SEORAK, Gangwon Province - After a marathon 21 hours of talks through the night, the South and North Korean militaries struck a deal yesterday on ways of easing tensions, achieving a major breakthrough toward securing peace on the divided peninsula.

In a joint statement after the talks wound up at 7 a.m. at this resort in the South, the general-level military officers agreed to work together to avoid accidental armed clashes in the disputed West Sea, or Yellow Sea, like the deadly gun battles in which a number of lives were lost in 1999 and 2002.

Under the agreement, the old enemies will make their navies use the same radio frequency for better contact, impose controls to prevent clashes, stop propaganda along the land buffer Demilitarized Zone and establish a military hotline.

But, in an apparent attempt to keep any discord from their agreement, they shied away from mentioning the Northern Limit Line, the maritime border which is hotly disputed by the North.
(snip)

Btw chenGOD don't be bashful about posting more of the story, information is one of the Allies for us all. After all you are only using very tiny parts of hardrive to do it.

On edit: you still get credit for the 3 point basket chenGOD and no points are scored by the man that gave the assist
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chenGOD Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-07-04 08:54 AM
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18. There is actually another article that I wanted to link to...
but I can't seem to find it online.

Ahhhh here we go...

Two Koreas to Open Intra-Korean Sea routes

from the article:
"The Ministry of Maritime Affaires and Fisheries announced Sunday that North and South Korea exchanged letters of agreement on sea transportation and attachments during the 9th inter-Korean economic talks held from June 2 to 5 in Pyongyang. The gist of the agreement is opening ports and sea routes between North and Korea. The opening is expected to accelerate overseas exchange and increase trade.

The North and the South agreed on approving the sea routes between the two Koreas as an internal route between Koreans, not as a route between countries, and 7 ports will be opened as a primary step. The sea routes will connect the Southern ports of Incheon, Gunsan, Yeosu, Busan, Ulsan, Pohang and Sokcho and the Northern ports of Nampo, Haeju, Kosong, Wonsan, Heungnam and Najin. "

----snip----

this isn't quite as long or as detailed as the article in the Korea Herald (big surprise from the chosun ilbo :puke: ), but at least it's a link.
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nolabels Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-07-04 10:39 AM
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19. That is a very great improvement it would seem to me
Twenty-five years ago when I spent my year of military duty over there things like that would of been unheard of.

The fact is the US is losing the propaganda war very badly can be seen all over there I guess. This article (they call it an editorial, but seems more news than the news we read here in this country the war mongers call free and democratic)shows clearly how these folks are backpedaling, trying to keep grips on anything that feels like power and control.

http://www.koreaherald.co.kr/SITE/data/html_dir/2004/06/07/200406070012.asp
Phased nuclear solution

U.S. President George W. Bush's reported endorsement of the South Korean proposal for a three-stage roadmap to end North Korea's nuclear ambitions is more than welcome. Whatever his direct motivation, it would be wise for Bush to exercise a certain amount of flexibility in dealing with the outstanding security issue, rather than sticking to his disputable demand for a "complete, verifiable, irreversible dismantling" of the North's nuclear arms program.

Considering the extremely complicated and delicate nature of the matter, and the jagged course of past efforts to reach a settlement, it must be too hasty to hope that the latest indication of a policy shift in Washington will lead to an early conclusion. Still, there will be no harm, either, in envisioning a major breakthrough in the slow-moving multilateral dialogue to seek a negotiated resolution to the dangerous survival game being played by the isolated communist state.

The U.S. move came at an opportune time. The six nations involved in the nuclear conference are scheduled to meet again in Beijing on June 23-25 for the third round of their tough talks. The geopolitical ambience surrounding the Korean Peninsula is obviously spawning a fresh strategic formulation in the U.S. plan for troop realignments under its "global defense posture review" and the potential responses from other regional powers.

North Korea has also signaled it may backpedal from its previous stand of building nuclear warheads to deter against a possible U.S. preemptive strike. Top leaders in Pyongyang dismissed suggestions that it would not give up its nuclear weapons capabilities because Russia and China are both nuclear powers and Japan might become one anytime. Instead, they have strongly indicated that the North urgently needs amity and economic assistance from the United States in order to rebuild its dilapidated economy.
(snip)
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Just Me Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-07-04 12:12 AM
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16. Oh, man,...that is such a positive step!!!
One can only encourage that the divides are finally being melted by the will of humanity.
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qwertyMike Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-07-04 12:00 AM
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15. But one of these "country's" is part of . . . .

The Axis of Evil



How can that be?
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nolabels Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-07-04 12:19 AM
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17. THE AXIS PANDEMIC

THE AXIS PANDEMIC

International reaction to Bush's Axis of Evil declaration was swift, as within minutes, France surrendered.

Elsewhere, peer-conscious nations rushed to gain triumvirate status in what became a game of geopolitical chairs. Cuba, Sudan, and Serbia said they had formed the Axis of Somewhat Evil, forcing Somalia to join with Uganda and Myanmar in the Axis of Occasionally Evil, while Bulgaria, Indonesia and Russia established the Axis of Not So Much Evil Really As Just Generally Disagreeable.

With the criteria suddenly expanded and all the desirable clubs filling up, Sierra Leone, El Salvador, and Rwanda applied to be called the Axis of Countries That Aren't the Worst But Certainly Won't Be Asked to Host the Olympics; Canada, Mexico, and Australia formed the Axis of Nations That Are Actually Quite Nice But Secretly Have Nasty Thoughts About America, while Spain, Scotland, and New Zealand established the Axis of Countries That Sometimes Ask Sheep to Wear Lipstick.

"That's not a threat, really, just something we like to do," said Scottish Executive First Minister Jack McConnell.

While wondering if the other nations of the world weren't perhaps making fun of him, a cautious Bush granted approval for most axes, although he rejected the establishment of the Axis of Countries Whose Names End in "Guay," accusing one of its members of filing a false application. Officials from Paraguay, Uruguay, and Chadguay denied the charges.
(snip)
http://www.satirewire.com/news/jan02/axis.shtml
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