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kskiska (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-07-04 09:57 PM Original message |
WP: Memo Offered Justification for Use of Torture |
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Kagemusha (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-07-04 10:04 PM Response to Original message |
1. Personally, I'm flabbergasted that it's taken this long. |
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goforit (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-08-04 04:20 PM Response to Reply #1 |
48. Shock and awe no more. Numb, yes. ........... |
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bacchant (747 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-07-04 10:18 PM Response to Original message |
2. "The actions of a few" Actions that just happen to be covered by |
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mike_c (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-07-04 10:24 PM Response to Original message |
3. let's not forget that most of those "suspects..." |
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Spazito (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-07-04 10:27 PM Response to Original message |
4. This means that bush signed a "Presidential Finding" or Executive |
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maryallen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-07-04 10:50 PM Response to Reply #4 |
8. The President -- ALONE -- can OVERRIDE the law ... |
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Spazito (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-07-04 11:02 PM Response to Reply #8 |
10. But the law of the land IS the Geneva Conventions according to |
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maryallen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-07-04 11:21 PM Response to Reply #10 |
14. That's what I'm saying: |
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alfredo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-08-04 12:08 AM Response to Reply #10 |
15. All treaties become the law of the land. |
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DoYouEverWonder (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-08-04 08:07 AM Response to Reply #8 |
31. There really is a river called the Rubicon |
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goforit (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-08-04 04:27 PM Response to Reply #8 |
51. Could you give me an explanation of Rubicon? |
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Sophree (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-08-04 07:25 PM Response to Reply #51 |
60. The Rubicon is the river |
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GarySeven (898 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-08-04 07:27 PM Response to Reply #51 |
61. Rubicon explained |
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LizW (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-08-04 08:02 AM Response to Reply #4 |
28. And it will come out, too |
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Spazito (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-08-04 08:22 AM Response to Reply #28 |
36. I agree, if this is allowed to stand... |
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ElementaryPenguin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-08-04 05:46 PM Response to Reply #4 |
55. So...Bush signed a presidential directive authorizing the use of torture |
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neverforget (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-07-04 10:28 PM Response to Original message |
5. So when does Ashcroft get to torture liberals and anyone else |
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goforit (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-08-04 04:35 PM Response to Reply #5 |
52. And this is their master plan...... |
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Tellurian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-07-04 10:46 PM Response to Original message |
6. So, what is the legal definition of a federal employee? |
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hedda_foil (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-07-04 10:46 PM Response to Original message |
7. 50 leaked pages of government approved smoking guns! |
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maddezmom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-08-04 07:01 AM Response to Reply #7 |
20. wonder who the "deep throat" is this time??? |
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Mayberry Machiavelli (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-08-04 09:40 PM Response to Reply #7 |
65. As there have been mutiple deaths under interrogations at different sites |
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cosmokramer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-07-04 10:53 PM Response to Original message |
9. No surprise... |
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gratuitous (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-07-04 11:02 PM Response to Original message |
11. You don't suppose . . . |
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Spazito (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-07-04 11:06 PM Response to Reply #11 |
12. If they believed what they were doing was legal and ... |
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Timefortruth (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-08-04 07:38 AM Response to Reply #11 |
24. No, of coarse not, |
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Kool Kitty (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-07-04 11:15 PM Response to Original message |
13. It's too bad that this is coming out this week, |
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0007 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-08-04 08:12 AM Response to Reply #13 |
34. Reagan will fade soon, but the Abu Ghraib can never die, it will out live |
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Kool Kitty (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-08-04 02:57 PM Response to Reply #34 |
41. Actually, I think you are right. |
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keithyboy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-08-04 04:15 PM Response to Reply #13 |
47. Abu Gharib is not going away. If you heard the Ashscroft hearings today |
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elf (805 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-08-04 10:33 PM Response to Reply #47 |
67. I just finished watching the Ashcroft hearings |
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Gloria (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-08-04 02:01 AM Response to Original message |
16. Well, if Kerry is smart, he will be pointing out that we are screwing |
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shraby (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-08-04 02:23 AM Response to Reply #16 |
17. Either this was in the |
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PurityOfEssence (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-08-04 02:43 AM Response to Original message |
18. Time for a cherubic little quote from alleged human Alberto Gonzalez |
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Judi Lynn (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-08-04 04:23 AM Response to Original message |
19. He said something totally different |
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Judi Lynn (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-08-04 07:10 AM Response to Original message |
21. Torture: Another blow for Rumsfeld? |
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gottaB (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-08-04 07:25 AM Response to Original message |
22. see the Times reporting |
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gristy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-08-04 07:37 AM Response to Reply #22 |
23. That Times article is on the front page |
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gottaB (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-08-04 07:55 AM Response to Reply #23 |
26. clearly a war crime |
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Rose Siding (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-08-04 08:08 AM Response to Reply #23 |
33. Oh, wow, look at the NYT go |
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gristy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-08-04 07:50 AM Response to Original message |
25. Lots of folks carrying this story today |
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LizW (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-08-04 08:04 AM Response to Reply #25 |
29. Anything about it on tv news yet? |
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Ganja Ninja (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-08-04 08:02 AM Response to Original message |
27. At the very least the author(s) of the memo should be fired. |
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gristy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-08-04 08:08 AM Response to Reply #27 |
32. That's not going to happen |
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Ganja Ninja (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-08-04 09:26 AM Response to Reply #32 |
37. If they gave him bad advice they should be fired. |
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Mayberry Machiavelli (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-08-04 08:05 AM Response to Original message |
30. Lawyers Decided Bans on Torture Didn't Bind Bush (NYT) |
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DoYouEverWonder (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-08-04 08:14 AM Response to Original message |
35. By saying that Bu$hCo is above the law |
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Spazito (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-08-04 10:02 AM Response to Original message |
38. Holy shit! Leahy asked Ashcroft directly whether the President... |
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jdj (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-08-04 03:31 PM Response to Reply #38 |
44. Are these the docs he won't turn over to congress? |
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Mayberry Machiavelli (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-08-04 03:51 PM Response to Reply #44 |
45. I think we should stop troubling ourselves over all this torture and watch |
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elf (805 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-08-04 10:45 PM Response to Reply #38 |
68. That moment |
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Spazito (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-08-04 11:26 AM Response to Original message |
39. Kick |
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GarySeven (898 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-08-04 11:31 AM Response to Original message |
40. Key item is buried in the story |
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Kool Kitty (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-08-04 03:02 PM Response to Reply #40 |
43. Good catch. |
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saigon68 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-08-04 03:00 PM Response to Original message |
42. These THUGS are WAR CRIMINALS |
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struggle4progress (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-08-04 04:08 PM Response to Original message |
46. US has interrogation 'specials' |
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The empressof all (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-08-04 04:22 PM Response to Reply #46 |
50. We need to keep this thread |
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goforit (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-08-04 04:22 PM Response to Original message |
49. Who's gonna appoint an Independent Investigator for Justice Dept? |
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Disturbed (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-08-04 04:40 PM Response to Original message |
53. False Testimony under oath? |
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DainBramaged (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-08-04 05:08 PM Response to Original message |
54. Ashcroft Says Bush Rejects Use of Torture |
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ElementaryPenguin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-08-04 06:51 PM Response to Original message |
56. A major KICK!! |
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Miss Authoritiva (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-08-04 07:01 PM Response to Original message |
57. Very, very confusing. |
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ElementaryPenguin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-08-04 07:05 PM Response to Reply #57 |
58. It certainly won't get Bushler off the hook! |
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GarySeven (898 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-08-04 07:21 PM Response to Reply #57 |
59. Not so confusing |
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DainBramaged (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-08-04 07:58 PM Response to Reply #59 |
62. Drip, drip, drip |
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Miss Authoritiva (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-08-04 08:53 PM Response to Reply #59 |
63. Would the NATO commandos have to hold off until the |
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GarySeven (898 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-08-04 10:11 PM Response to Reply #63 |
66. Commandos in zodiacs |
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David Zephyr (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-08-04 09:29 PM Response to Original message |
64. Kick It Up. |
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