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maddezmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-08-04 08:24 AM
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Blair confident he wasn't misled on Iraqi weapons
LONDON (AFP) - British Prime Minister Tony Blair (news - web sites) said he remains confident he was not misled about Saddam Hussein (news - web sites) and weapons of mass destruction (WMD) in Iraq (news - web sites).


In a BBC radio interview broadcast Tuesday, Blair said that while no such weapons had yet been found in Iraq, Britain's intelligence services, as a rule, "very rarely" erred with regards to a "pattern" of intelligence.


Blair also said he expected the findings of the Iraq Survey Group, which is hunting for clues to WMD, to conclude that Saddam's regime was indeed a threat, even if no actual weapons have been uncovered.


"I think the basic pattern -- ie, that this (Saddam) was someone who retained complete determination to pursue this WMD business -- I would be very surprised if that turned out to be wrong," he said.

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http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&cid=1515&ncid=1515&e=5&u=/afp/20040608/wl_mideast_afp/iraq_britain_blair_040608113728
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Jack Rabbit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-08-04 08:29 AM
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1. Right, Tony
I'll bet Blair is really as confident that weapons will be found as I am that the sun won't rise tomorrow morning. There is just as much reason to believe either.

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Spazito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-08-04 08:30 AM
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2. Man, oh man, this guy is totally delusional...
Blair said that while no such weapons had yet been found in Iraq, Britain's intelligence services, as a rule, "very rarely" erred with regards to a "pattern" of intelligence.

"very rarely"! "as a rule", those are weasel phrases which normally mean "oops, we made a mistake" but blair doesn't see that. I hope the Labor party boots his ass out soon and elects a new leader in time for their election next year.
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salin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-08-04 08:58 AM
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11. David Kay used those words to describe people (esp leaders
who have access to better info) who still cling to the idea that weapos will be found (or that weapons were there.) He may even have given the nod to Tony himself (as part of the delusional crowd.)

WHAT is he thinking? Is he ReALLY delusional? DOes he not read the whole chalabi/alwari stories (Hey Tony... those 45 minutes... sham... new leader of Iraq fed that fake stuff to your intelligence)

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muriel_volestrangler Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-08-04 10:31 AM
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19. The interviewer did remind him of the Kay quote
you can hear the whole thing here, if you want. It's amazing how calm and rational he sounds.
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UpInArms Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-08-04 08:32 AM
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3. Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha
no, Tony - you were not misled - there was no evidence of weapons so there was no misleading you.

You (Tony poodle lapdog) misled everyone into Iraq.

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nodictators Donating Member (977 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-08-04 10:08 AM
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16. Exactly! And both Blair and Bush are inveterate liars
A few weeks ago Gen. Tommy Franks was knighted in the UK.

Methinks that Blair was and is working in the interests of Royal Family, and not the citizens of the UK.

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struggle4progress Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-08-04 02:35 PM
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31. Yep. Tony B Liar
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The Stranger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-08-04 08:32 AM
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4. Wait. Last time I saw his name on LBN, he was supposed to be deposed.
Failed again?
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drdtroit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-08-04 08:40 AM
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5. That's why
Tony's ass is cooked!
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UpInArms Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-08-04 08:41 AM
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7. Welcome to DU drdtroit!
:hi:
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GreenArrow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-08-04 08:41 AM
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6. Blair confident that no one can prove he is a liar
that's the bottom line. He lied, and he'll get away with it.
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gratuitous Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-08-04 08:48 AM
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8. Okay, Tony's slipped his moorings completely
And, note the change: Okay, maybe there weren't any weapons, but I wasn't misled. I would be very surprised if Saddam didn't retain "complete determination to pursue this WMD business." We're back to Chimpy asking what the difference is between a weapon and a program to get a weapon.

It is now the stated policy of each leader of the U.S. and the U.K. that desire = weapon. If you so much as want a missile, or a bomb, then there is officially no distinction between that desire and actually having a weapon, and you risk invasion.

We're being led by madmen.
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funnymanpants Donating Member (569 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-08-04 12:46 PM
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26. No, not even a program!
Saddam didn't even have anything close to a program. Tony is simply saying that Saddam was determined to get the weapons!

It's right out of 1984.

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TahitiNut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-08-04 08:55 AM
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9. A new "theory of justice" that can aptly inform a police state.
Evidence is no longer necessary. Anyone can now be convicted of possession of illegal items and substances if the police merely claim they're sure.

When did the motto change to "In Government We Trust"??? :wtf:
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CatWoman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-08-04 08:56 AM
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10. CatWoman confident that Blair is a fucking idiot.
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readmylips Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-08-04 09:00 AM
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12. Blair confident he didn't have sex with that man...bush...
Blair said that while no blue dress had been found at Downing Square, Ken Starr, as a rule, very rarely, investigates and convicts bush supporters.
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rooboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-08-04 09:06 AM
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13. For heaven's sake...
the guy even used stolen material from a student's thesis to back his case for war, and STILL he pushes this line.

The British need to create a new tradition similar to changing of the guard. They could call it "Changing of the Prime Minister", where 2 guys in white coats walk in and lead the batty PM away with some dignity...
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daa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-08-04 09:19 AM
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14. Then Blair is dumber than dirt nt
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leesa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-08-04 09:21 AM
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15. Well, then he lied. OK. Thanks for the admission.
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bacchant Donating Member (747 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-08-04 10:23 AM
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17. Give me your dirty love
Edited on Tue Jun-08-04 10:29 AM by awake

Just like your mama
Make her fuzzy poodle do

Give me Your dirty love

The way your mama
Make that nasty poodle chew


- Frank Zappa (being clairvoyant about the Bush / Blair relationship)
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mikeytherat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-08-04 10:26 AM
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18. ...little paws stickin' up, little paws stickin' up,
curly little head...

mikey_the_rat
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buycitgo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-08-04 12:07 PM
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25. ho de HO! made my day
I have that album in vinyl.....one of my favorite covers

".....like some tacky little pamphlet in your daddy's bottom drawer"
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LeftHander Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-08-04 10:43 AM
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20. DIg that hole deeper tony
He is confident he wasn't mislead because he knew there weren't any to begin with...
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truthspeaker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-08-04 10:45 AM
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21. Subjects confident the emperor is wearing clothes.
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bemildred Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-08-04 11:21 AM
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22. I sure do miss the Howdy Doody show.
Now there was a puppet.
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struggle4progress Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-08-04 01:13 PM
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30. LOL
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JohnLocke Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-08-04 11:25 AM
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23. Bwwaaahhaa (nt).
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Mr Creosote Donating Member (640 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-08-04 11:37 AM
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24. Chalk up another lie to Bliar
"Blair said that while no such weapons had yet been found in Iraq, Britain's intelligence services, as a rule, "very rarely" erred with regards to a "pattern" of intelligence".

Oh yeah? We've got longer memories than that Tone. Invasion of the Falklands? Britain's Intelligence Services didn't spot it coming. Invasion of Kuwait? Britain's Intelligence Services didn't spot it coming. Iraq's WMDs? Got that wrong too. So that's our 3 wars in the last 25 years and Britain's Intelligence services stuffed up on each one.

Why is it that Tony is so afraid to criticise the Intelligence Services?
In his case do they actually know something that we don't?
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Garcia Donating Member (20 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-08-04 12:49 PM
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27. Say Goodbye to Blair
I can't wait till Blair gets voted out this election.:D Everyone hates him over in England..The liberals hate him because he went to Iraq and the conservatives hate him because he's a "socialist".

Buh Bye Blair!:P
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GoBlue Donating Member (930 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-08-04 12:52 PM
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28. Oh Tony, Tony, you are so pathetic..
You once had a bright future but you hitched your wagon to FUBAR and it all turned to BU__SH__. Your soul deserves better than a fool for an ego.
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MasonJar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-08-04 12:57 PM
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29. If they are there, the dirty duo planted them there. n/t
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olddem43 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-08-04 02:51 PM
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32. I'm confident too
That I wasn't misled on Santa Claus, the Easter Bunny and the tooth fairy.
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