Engines used in banned Iraqi missiles found in Jordan

[Kadie]

Engines used in banned Iraqi missiles found in Jordan

Copyright © 2004 AP Online
This story was published Wednesday, June 9th, 2004

By EDITH M. LEDERER, Associated Press

UNITED NATIONS (AP) - U.N. weapons experts have found 20 engines used in banned Iraqi missiles in a Jordan scrapyard along with other equipment that could be used to make weapons of mass destruction, an official said Wednesday.

The discoveries were revealed to the U.N. Security Council by acting chief U.N. inspector Demetrius Perricos during in a closed-door briefing. The text was obtained by The Associated Press.

The U.N. team was following up on an earlier discovery of a similar Al Samoud 2 engine in a scrapyard in the Dutch port of Rotterdam. Perricos said inspectors also want to check in Turkey, which has also received scrap metal from Iraq.

In his briefing to the Security Council, Perricos said U.N. inspectors do not know how much material has been removed from Iraq that they had been monitoring because of its potential dual use in both legitimate civilian activities and banned weapons production.

more... http://www.tri-cityherald.com/24hour/world/story/1427225p-8753116c.html

here is another link if that one doesn't work...
http://www.bakersfield.com/24hour/world/story/1427225p-8753116c.html

[uhhuh]

1. OMG!!

Saddam was guilty of.........



RECYCLING!!!!!!!!

[Rick Myers]

2. COULD BE...

"along with other equipment that could be used to make weapons of mass destruction"

That recycling bastard!!!

Opps... There's the HORRIBLE phrase: "dual-use!" Damn...

[xray s]

3. tomorrow we bomb Holland

teach those damn wooded shoed chocolate eaters a thing or two about American resolve in the war against terra. Tulip loving evil doing Dutch treat bastards!

[trogdor]

4. Why...

...would Jordan, an ally of the United States, and no fan of the former regime in Iraq, hold banned WMD parts for Saddam Hussein? Somebody needs to ask that question.

[mn9driver]

5. Sounds like an enterprising Iraqi scrap dealer

got hold of some good stuff to sell. Hopefully it all went to junk dealers and not to folks who might actually try to use it.

[DoYouEverWonder]

11. The whole country is being reduced to scrap

So it's not surprising that these potential WMD materials will start showing up all over the place. Here's an article from a couple of weeks ago about Iraq's 'recycling' programs.



http://www.smh.com.au/articles/2004/05/28/1085641716180.html

May 29, 2004


As the United States spends billions of dollars rebuilding Iraq's civil and military infrastructure, evidence of widespread looting is mounting. Brand new components for oil rigs and water plants, military equipment and even entire buildings are leaving the country on the backs of trucks.

In one operation, at least 100 semi-trailers loaded with what is billed as scrap metal are streaming each day into Jordan, one of six countries bordering Iraq.

In the past several months, the International Atomic Energy Agency, based in Vienna, has been closely monitoring satellite photographs of hundreds of military-industrial sites in Iraq.

Initial results from the analysis are disturbing, said Jacques Baute, director of the agency's Iraq nuclear verification office: entire buildings and complexes consisting of as many as a dozen buildings have been vanishing from the photographs.

"We see sites that have totally been cleaned out," Dr Baute said.

[0007]

8. Eric Cartman is just the person to ask - if he's not to busy..

[Cooley Hurd]

10. Believe it or not, King Hussein & Saddam were relatively close...

Back during BushWar I, King Hussein's Jordan was one of the only ME countries that vehemently disagreed w/ Poppy's war plans (and refused to give material support to coalition troops)...

[Media_Lies_Daily]

6. Hate to use NewsMax as a source, but take a close look at one name....

<http://www.newsmax.com/archives/articles/2003/2/27/211021.shtml>

Excerpt:

"UNITED NATIONS -- Iraq has agreed "in principle" to chief weapons inspector Hans Blix's directive to destroy its al-Samoud 2 missiles by week's end, an official for the U.N. Monitoring, Verification and Inspection Commission said Thursday.
The official cited a letter from Iraqi President Saddam Hussein's science adviser.

Blix's deputy, Demetrius Perricos, who is in Baghdad, was working out details with Iraqi authorities, said the official, who requested anonymity."

So, Blix's deputy was involved in the destruction of the Iraqi missiles, but now he's trying to stir up crap about waht remains of the missiles? Interesting. I wonder who he really works for.

No wonder the engines, or what's left of them, were found in a junkyard. It's called metal-salvage.

[muriel_volestrangler]

7. From a report a couple of days later

"The inspectors say Iraq has at least 100 Al Samouds and was continuing to produce them. Today they destroyed just 4. Time is pressing. the Chief Inspector's next report to the Security Council is on Friday.

Deputy Executive Chairman of UNMOVIC: "I do not believe that it is technically very easy to finish all the missiles, all the components, all the launchers, all the equipment within four days. It could be within two weeks. But as I say, it depends on the rate and the effort of the Iraqi side.""

http://www.channel4.com/news/2003/03/week_1/01_missile.html

And 2 weeks was about what they had before Bush ordered the inspectors out so he could bomb. The destruction probably went a bit slow - since the US and UK were already trying to push the second UN resolution authorising an invasion, what incentive was there for the Iraqis to hurry up and destroy their rockets? Eventually, these parts are available because of the invasion and subsequent carelessness of Bush:

"In his briefing to the Security Council, Perricos said U.N. inspectors do not how much material has been removed from Iraq that they had been monitoring.

U.N. inspectors were pulled out of Iraq just before the war began in March 2003, and the United States has refused to allow them to return, instead deploying its own teams to search for weapons of mass destruction.

Perricos suggested that the interim Iraqi government, which will assume sovereignty when the U.S. and British occupation of the country ends on June 30, may want to reconsider "the whole policy for the continued export of metal scrap" which apparently started in mid-2003 and is regulated by the U.S.-led coalition.

"The removal of these materials from Iraq raises concerns with regard to proliferation risks ... thereby also rendering the task of the disarmament of Iraq and its eventual confirmation, more difficult," Perricos said. "

[0rganism]

9. As long as they know where the "business end" of the missiles are

Oh wait. I guess they don't anymore, now that Iraq has turned into a farking guerilla warzone.

[markses]

12. These are the infamous "banned" missiles that went 15 km beyond limit

If I remember correctly, the maximum range of missiles allowed after GWI was 100 km; these al-Samoud 20's were shown to travel 115km. A scandal, to be sure! It was only the first desperation move in the conservative cretins desperate gambit to "show" that Iraq continued to be in violation of the sanctions regime; it was so flagrantly desperate that anyone with any sense knew the whole enterprise was a fraud and a scam immediately. I remember hearing about it and saying "They have to be joking." Needless to say, as the bodies pile up in a huge and mournful mound, they were not joking, or their joke isn't particularly funny. Fifteen fucking kilometers. Ridiculous.

We're now up to 55 dead Americans per kilometer over the limit. If we factor in 10,000 dead Iraqis, though there are certainly more, we're up to 722 dead humans per kilometer over the limit. Feeling much safer now, Mr. Bush.....