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UpInArms Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-10-04 04:29 AM
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Report: U.S. can ignore torture treaties
http://www.miami.com/mld/miamiherald/news/nation/8885107.htm?1c

WASHINGTON - A March 2003 Pentagon report arguing that the United States isn't bound by laws and treaties against torture has worsened a rift between Bush administration officials seeking maximum leeway to question prisoners and military lawyers who fear reprisals against U.S. troops.

The 52-page classified memo, prepared for Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld, offered a sweeping assertion of executive power, declaring that Congress and the federal courts have no authority to limit the detention and interrogation of combatants captured in war if the president approves the actions.

''Any effort by Congress to regulate the interrogation of unlawful combatants would violate the Constitution's sole vesting of the commander-in-chief authority in the president,'' the report claimed.

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''They were trying to reverse a 50-year history of adherence to the Geneva Conventions and torture conventions, and it's very troubling,'' said Scott Silliman, a former Air Force officer who heads the Center on Law, Ethics and National Security at Duke University.

That effort has caused ''a major rift'' between civilian officials in the administration and military lawyers, Silliman said.

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pissing off the CIA and the military?
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JNelson6563 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-10-04 04:40 AM
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1. Here's the thing they don't get
By claiming this "right" they are setting precedent. There will come a time when Americans are subjected to this and the hue and cry will go up. The responsible party can merely point to stuff like the memo the article cites and smile and keep torturing.

Neo-cons have no foresight.

Julie
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UpInArms Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-10-04 04:49 AM
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2. Either no foresight
or a vision from hell.

Do they believe that they can do this power grab and get away with it forever?

Do they believe that this country will allow them to pursue their dream of endless war?

I can only hope and believe that no matter how many riffs and divisions we have, our country is not that weak.
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pfitz59 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-10-04 05:08 AM
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4. Plenty of fore-skin.....
covering their teensy, weensy heads!
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saracat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-10-04 05:03 AM
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3. Maybe this is why they want
to name the Pentegon after Reagan!Talk about skipping town! LOL
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Moderator DU Moderator Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-10-04 05:08 AM
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5. duplicate
Please consolidate discussion in an existing torture memo thread such as this one:
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=102&topic_id=611189
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