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Edited on Sun Jun-13-04 02:36 AM by kiahzero
You said: The wearing of VISIBLE religious paraphernalia is a silent way of proclaiming "I believe in this particular faith and I think it is the right one and the only one and therefore anyone who does not have the same faith is an unbeliever."
Are you now recanting on that statement? Otherwise, you've set up a kind of reverse strawman: you started off with a strong statement, and then attempt to justify it with an argument that supports a weaker statement.
If it's "just" jewelry, why don't they wear a pearl drop or a plain round disk? No, they wear the cross or the crescent, the pentacle or the star of david because it means something. And what it means is "I am of this faith and I am proud of it." Who wants to take pride in something other than that which makes them better -- and better than what? Better than those who aren't?
It's not just jewelry, as you say. It's a statement. In other words, it's symbolic speech. And in case you've forgotten in your urge to stereotype people who wear religious jewelry, symbolic speech is Constitutionally protected.
Your claim that being "proud" implies supremacy again puts you in a paradox. Either you, as a proud atheist (you proclaimed it quite openly, and why would you say it if you weren't proud of it), or your assumption is wrong. If you are a proud atheist, you are implying that atheists are better than everyone else, and are therefore a bigot.
Again, pick one. Either you admit you're a bigot, or you admit that your assumptions are wrong.
I fear anyone -- Muslim, Jew, Christian, Buddhist, Sikh, Pagan -- who puts her or his religion before her or his humanity. When a parent demands that his -- or more rarely, her -- child have the RIGHT to display ostensibly religious symbols in a public school, I fear that parent, and I fear for that child.
I'd LOVE to see your explanation of how "showing justifiable self-respect" (one of the definitions of "proud") implies that one puts his or her religion before his or her humanity.
When a parent demands that his or her children have their Constitutional rights protected, they are doing a service to everyone. But when you don't respect the Constitution, it's harder to see that, I suppose.
Absence of religion is not the same as atheism. And atheism is not a religion. Public schools are a branch of the government, of the state. They should never been seen as supporting or condoning any religion. Making accommodations for one religion will almost undoubtedly lead to direct conflicts -- students who won't be allowed to participate in something because of accommodations that have to be made for their religion.
Bullshit. Once again, I remind you of the Free Exercise Clause... you might want to read it sometime. Students are compelled, by the force of law, to attend school. If a school policy (such as the no-head-coverings rule) conflicts with someone's religion, a rational reading of the Free Exercise Clause requires the school to do what it can to accommodate the student, unless doing so would conflict with another requirement of the Constitution.
There's no compelling government interest in preventing a girl from wearing the hijab in schools; the reason for preventing students from wearing head coverings is generally because Western values require individuals to remove their head coverings indoors. This lesson obviously doesn't apply to individuals who wear said coverings for religious reasons.
IMNHO, religion and its expression, including the wearing of specifically religious symbols, belong in the home and the hosue of worship. They do not belong in the schools.
In other words, you support eliminating the Free Exercise Clause from the Constitution.
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On edit: Clarified the first paragraph.
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