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Raster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-12-04 06:39 PM
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Fla. Voting Machines Have Recount Flaw
http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=/ap/20040612/ap_on_el_pr/florida_voting_machines

TALLAHASSEE, Fla. - Touchscreen voting machines in 11 counties have a software flaw that could make manual recounts impossible in November's presidential election, state officials said.

A spokeswoman for the secretary of state called the problems "minor technical hiccups" that can be resolved, but critics allege voting officials wrongly certified a voting system they knew had a bug.

The electronic voting machines are a response to Florida's 2000 presidential election fiasco, where thousands of punchcard ballots were improperly marked. But the new machines have brought concerns that errors could go unchecked without paper records of the electronic voting.

The machines, made by Election Systems & Software of Omaha, Neb., fail to provide a consistent electronic "event log" of voting activity when asked to reproduce what happened during the election, state officials said.

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http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=/ap/20040612/ap_on_el_pr/florida_voting_machines
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shraby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-12-04 06:43 PM
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1. Jeb says,
"never mind the details, full speed ahead! I need to get my brother in the white house again..don't want to have to bother the supreme court this year."
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sam sarrha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-12-04 09:32 PM
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15. jeb said 48,000 people taken off the voter list cant chect it or see it...
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TahitiNut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-12-04 06:48 PM
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2. SMOP
:eyes:
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AlCzervik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-12-04 07:01 PM
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3. Where I live
they haved decided on optical scan ballots instead of touch screen for my county. Thank you Kevin Shelley.
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struggle4progress Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-12-04 07:03 PM
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4. Oh my! I REALLY don't know WHAT to say! This is SUCH a surprise!

You don't think this could play ANY role in the OUTCOME of the election, do you?
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cosmicdot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-12-04 07:05 PM
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5. I fear "minor technical hiccups" nationwide come November 2nd
what will we do if we can't tell who won what?



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struggle4progress Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-12-04 07:06 PM
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6. We'll know who won. And we'll know what SOB stole the election.
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Zhade Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-12-04 07:38 PM
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9. And then we'll march on the White House.
If we fail to act again, we deserve our fate!

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struggle4progress Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-12-04 07:58 PM
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10. I'd bet irate Americans could pull off a credible national strike ...

if they really believed we'd had two fraudulent elections in a row. I'd bet Americans could jam the mails with letters, the switchboards with phone calls, and the national and state capitols with irate visitors.

This, however, would depend on overcoming a significant apathy and a certain slobbering adulation of whatever narcoleptic BS the mass media are selling on election day.
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doni_georgia Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-12-04 07:09 PM
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7. Miami-Dade, and Broward are two affected - who'd a thunk!
Jeb Bush needs to go to jail.
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leftchick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-12-04 07:15 PM
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8. as my son would say.... DUH!!
it is all part of the plan. First the bannana republic of Florida then the whole US.
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stickdog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-12-04 09:05 PM
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11. Of course they do. Recounts are impossible without a Voter Verified
Paper Ballot.
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stickdog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-12-04 09:10 PM
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12. WHAT THE FUCK!!!
Officials with the company and the state Division of Elections said they believe they can fix the problem by linking the voting equipment with laptop computers. Florida's two largest counties — Miami-Dade and Broward — are among those affected by the flaws.

Great idea! What could be more secure than two computers linked together without a physical audit!

On the technical side, what does it say about these folks' programming ability that they need TWO COMPUTERS just to make the bogus voting total equivalent to the bogus event log?
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GOPBasher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-12-04 09:27 PM
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13. Man this is scary.
:scared:
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sam sarrha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-12-04 09:30 PM
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14. the FL chad fiasco was a smoke screen for the computer fraud
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peacetalksforall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-12-04 09:34 PM
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16. ES & S - Senator Chuck Hegel's present or former company.
Please don't tell me that they didn't design it with flaws.
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stickdog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-12-04 10:43 PM
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17. WHAT THE FUCK II !!!
They emphasize that the "glitch" in the touchscreen machines occurs when the audit is done after the election, not when the tally sheet is printed in each precinct when polls close.

:wtf: could explain this? Have they really counted up both by hand to verify that the printout doesn't match the "audit"? It what way doesn't it match?

What could explain the mysterious corruption of these "audit" files other than the fudging of the original total count (and printout?)?
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