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dArKeR Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-16-04 12:44 AM
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Cocaine `vaccine' clears research hurdle
THE GUARDIAN , LONDON
Wednesday, Jun 16, 2004,Page 6

Aidan Gray, director of the Conference on Crack and Cocaine

Drug treatment charities in the UK on Monday welcomed the first scientific evidence that a new "vaccine" against cocaine addiction could provide an extra line of defense in fighting drug abuse, helping users to quit by preventing them from getting high.

In early medical trials, the vaccine helped to reduce the likelihood of a relapse in recovering addicts -- and made taking the drug less pleasurable for those who succumbed.

Experts believe cocaine use has become far more prevalent in Britain in the last 10 years. A recent survey by the music magazine MixMag suggested it could soon overtake ecstasy as the dance drug of choice in clubs, and Aidan Gray, director of the Conference on Crack and Cocaine (Coca), says existing drug users have been turning to cocaine -- instead of heroin, for example -- in recent years.

http://www.taipeitimes.com/News/world/archives/2004/06/16/2003175270
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Must_B_Free Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-16-04 12:55 AM
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1. "drug users have been turning to cocaine -- instead of heroin, "
That's terrible for those hard working heroin smugglers...

We MUST stop cocaine!
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thebigidea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-16-04 12:57 AM
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2. quick, send some to the White House!
before he gets all Scarface on everybody!
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stumblnrose Donating Member (405 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-16-04 01:07 AM
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3. I tried this
In the eighties...Something called imipramine, prescribed by a Columbia University professor/shrink, cut down on the effects of the cocaine I was smoking like a fish at the time. It made it easier for me to stop smoking for a day or two, but actually I could still get high if I smoked enough. Nothing works in my experience that comes in a pill or such not. I am a cult member today and it works for me.
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thebigidea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-16-04 01:37 AM
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6. a cult member? Well, gotta admire your honesty.
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Jackpine Radical Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-16-04 07:36 AM
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8. Imipramine is the generic form of a common tricyclic antidepressant.
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Gore1FL Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-16-04 01:09 AM
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4. I wish they could do that with tobacco
give me a shot, make me vomit when I smoke -- that might just do it -- though it may take several weeks if I could muster the will power.
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Journeyman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-16-04 01:35 AM
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5. I used aversion therapy to help me quit smoking. . .
small electrical shocks administered while I smoked with my face over a huge ashtray, surrounded by mirrors. I figure I received in excess of 50,000 shocks that week. It helped. The decision to quit, and the resolve to stay quit, were all me, but the shock therapy helped get me over the initial days of withdrawal. That, and I haven't had to pay a light bill in over 18 years.
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Lucky Luciano Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-16-04 03:32 AM
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7. A little Clockwork Orange-esque there!
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JayS Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-16-04 08:25 AM
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9. "make me vomit when I smoke"
Okay. Remember that every cigarette you put in your mouth was previously slobbered on by Bush. :)

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indy thinker Donating Member (12 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-16-04 08:39 AM
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11. They are also working on a nicotine vaccine
Here is a link:
http://www.xenova.co.uk/dc_ta_nic.html

And the company's press release for the cocaine study:
http://www.xenova.co.uk/PressReleases/pr_20040614_01.html
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newyawker99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-16-04 06:00 PM
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14. Hi indy thinker!!
Welcome to DU!! :toast:
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mulethree Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-16-04 06:23 PM
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15. yummy " nicotine derivative coupled to recombinant cholera toxin B (rCTB)"
"TA-NIC vaccine is designed to act as follows: the nicotine derivative carried by an immunogenic protein will prime the immune system to produce anti-nicotine antibodies. On smoking a cigarette, nicotine readily enters the bloodstream where it is expected that it will encounter and bind to these antibodies. The antigen-antibody complex is too large to cross the blood-brain barrier, so the pleasurable stimulus which usually accompanies smoking will be absent or reduced."

Interesting, it really is a vaccine.
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JayS Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-16-04 08:27 AM
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10. There is a similar experiment going on with alcohol addiction...
...right now. Let's hope it works!
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stumblnrose Donating Member (405 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-16-04 10:37 AM
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12. Addicts are multifacedly addicted
You can't just drug em, shock em or whatever. The holistic person is an addict. Anyone lived with a relatvie who just stopped drinking. Worse than before IMHO.
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JayS Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-16-04 10:58 AM
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13. The treatment I have been reading about deals with...
...getting alcoholics to the point where their dependency on the drug is not so all-powerful that they cannot even begin to deal with the conditions that led to their drinking in the first place. It is a good step but I agree with you that drinking is only one part of a much larger problem. Too bad the War On Drugs exempts alcohol though.

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daleo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-16-04 06:42 PM
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16. Test this cocaine vaccine on a chimp
No, not lab animals, that would be cruel. There is another chimp who would be an interesting test subject, however...
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