Bush Backs Condom Use to Prevent Spread of AIDS

[CShine]

President Bush said on Wednesday for the first time that the United States should "learn from the experience" of countries like Uganda in fighting AIDS and embraced the use of condoms to prevent its spread, a sensitive issue among conservative groups that have fought the adoption of any strategy that does not focus on abstinence.

Announcing some modest changes to government financing for antiretroviral drugs in front of a church-affiliated group here, Mr. Bush also argued for sexual abstinence. But in his comments, he appeared to be offering something to both sides in the debate: his base of social conservatives as well as moderates in crucial election states like Pennsylvania, who have argued that Mr. Bush has been too slow to embrace effective methods of preventing AIDS.

"We can learn from the experiences of other countries when it comes to a good program to prevent the spread of AIDS, like the nation of Uganda," Mr. Bush said. "They've started what they call the A.B.C. approach to prevention of this deadly disease. That stands for: Abstain, be faithful in marriage, and, when appropriate, use condoms."

The approach was working and was a "practical, balanced and moral message," Mr. Bush said. He was quick to add that "in addition to other kinds of prevention, we need to tell our children that abstinence is the only certain way to avoid contracting H.I.V."

http://www.nytimes.com/2004/06/24/politics/campaign/24bush.html

[mbperrin]

1. Uh-oh! Start talking about condoms and the next

thing you know, they'll be wanting to you-know-what!

(Kinda gives a new perspective to the phrase "pray harder", doesn't it?)

[geek tragedy]

16. Man on dog sex?

Kinky sex club romps?

Or is that just Republicans?

[DinahMoeHum]

2. Well, duh! the ABC's for safe sex for me are. . .

A for Abstinence
B for Beat Your Own Meat (masturbation)
C for Condom

WTF took Monkey-Boy so long? And anyway, he should go back to his Bible-thumping buddies on this, not the rest of us.


:evilfrown:

[LTR]

3. His dad should have worn one

:evilgrin:

[justjones]

15. No, castration was definitely in order.....

Especially since seeing his spawn in action. Too bad foresight isn't 20/20.

[gatlingforme]

29. LOL, His dad should have used them *** all *** the time. LOL

[Jacobin]

4. Bullshit

His executive orders to have made it impossible for them to be used.

Liar

[fdr_hst_fan]

7. Remember, folks-

it's ELECTION TIME-time to make the same promises and take the same stands you took LAST time, only to abandon them once you've STOLEN the election, AGAIN!

[ChavezSpeakstheTruth]

5. He's so desparate he's abandoning his base

you ain't foolin' us scumbag!!!!

[daveskilt]

6. does that make bush anti catholic too? nt

[fdr_hst_fan]

9. He already is-

but you'll NEVER convince me that there's a place for religion in politics.

[daveskilt]

11. agreed - I hate it when politicians use god as an excuse

or anyone for that matter. A politician has a job to to work in government for the people, like a plumber has a job to fix my toilet. I wouldn't want a plumber in my house telling me he is putting in extra pipes because his god told him he should, and I sure as hell don't want a politician telling me that he is changing the laws to match what his god thinks.

I just found it funny that bush is pro rubbers after all the Kerry is anti catholic crap.

[silverweb]

8. Too little too late.

No body believes you anymore, George. Every time you open your mouth, everyone knows you're just politicking and don't mean a damn word you say.

Just go away and shut the fuck up.

[fdr_hst_fan]

10. You GO, Silverweb!

[silverweb]

14. *LOL*

Maybe if we all chant it in unison?

Something like,

Go away Bush!
Shut the fuck up!
(repeat ad infinitum)

:D

[Career Prole]

12. Sure, bush*!

Take two condoms.
Leave the condoms in the packaging.
Tape one condom securely over each beady eye.
What AIDS problem? I don't see any AIDS problem!

(Someone want to Photoshop it? I have to get home! :evilgrin:)

[Nevernose]

13. "In other political news, Pres Bush endorsed concept of round earth"

Though it still remains to be seen how the President stands on such contreversial topics as the Earth orbiting around the sun, or the alleged equiality of the black race.

Just now catchin' on to rubbers, GW?

[nodehopper]

17. you beat me to it

was gonna say the same thing, LOL

[Tansy_Gold]

19. Yeah, right, so now we can learn from the experience of Uganda

after ignoring the experience and knowledge and expertise and SCREAMING BLOODY FUCKING MURDER of America???

What a fucking moron.

And what a fucking lying moron, 'cause we all know he is just talkin' out of his lyin' ass.

Tansy Gold, who had bad day (like Unka Dick) and is lettin' off some fuckin' steam (but isn't torturing anyone in the process)

[Kinkistyle]

22. This "Uganda" sounds like one high-tech, progressive country!

Wow, they must be on the fore-front of sexual disease prevention if America is learning how to do it from them!

[struggle4progress]

27. Think our torture memos were based on Amin's old legal theories?

[teryang]

18. A democratic representative on CSPAN

...within the last couple of days was just slamming chimp big time with reproductive issues and how he was interfering with such on an ideological basis internationally to the detriment of women everywhere.

I wish I could remember her name, she was impressive. She quoted every bill, every regulation and every executive order he signed in appeasement to the reactionary far right. I can't imagine any women or health care personnel that would be inclined to vote for chump after listening just a few minutes to the list of ill considered reactionary public health horrors based on bush disregard for choice and women's rights.

[Geo55]

20. Well , well...

It IS reSelection time !
Playin' with fire pinhead , throw moderates a bone an' piss off the base.
Pretty slippery treading that line !

[Colin Ex]

21. You heard the president, guys! Wrap it before you tap it!

It's about goddamned time he did something right, oi. :-)

-C

[Rose Siding]

23. Look at us; learning from Uganda

Welcome to the 21st century, you freak.

[Solly Mack]

24. It's the old moderate act before an election routine

"But in his comments, he appeared to be offering something to both sides in the debate: his base of social conservatives as well as moderates in crucial election states like Pennsylvania, who have argued that Mr. Bush has been too slow to embrace effective methods of preventing AIDS."

[iamjoy]

25. Like Some Maple Syrup, Georgie?

To go with your waffle?
(Sure Howard Dean would love to serve it to you.)

[struggle4progress]

26. Still saying one thing and doing another. eom

[Senior citizen]

28. Where condoms won't be worn: the sanctity of marriage

In recent years there has been a great increase in HIV infections among married, monogamous females. It seems that male spouses who become infected often do not wish to start wearing condoms because, if they've never worn condoms before, the change of habit might arouse suspicion.

About 15 years ago the California legislature worked up what was popularly known as a Spousal Notification Act, that would make it legal for doctors to notify a spouse when they were treating their marital partner for HIV. But by the time the lobbyists got through with it, it permitted doctors to notify everyone EXCEPT a spouse. The rationale was that if a person were promiscuous or shared needles with many people, they could be notified that they had been exposed to HIV without violating the privacy of the infected patient. But in the case of a non-drug-using, monogamous marital partner, such notification would immediately point to their only possible source of infection, their spouse, thus violating the spouse's privacy.

This is another reason I think marriage should be illegal. In marriage one "partner" can legally be forced to forfeit their life because the law doesn't want the other "partner" to even forfeit any of their privacy. This "partnership" is like the one between the taxpayers and Halliburton: all take on one side and all give on the other. I say, if you don't want to give up any privacy, don't get married.

[DeadHead67]

30. Does this mean Roman Catholic Bishops . . . . .

. . . will 'admonish' the faithful not to vote for Bush because he now advocates an 'unnatural' method of birth control? I DOUBT IT!!!! I can't help but think that the Bishops have some other agenda in mind, given the Church's track record since it became the official religion of the Roman Empire under Constantine. Considering the behavior of the heirarchy up until the nineteenth century, it's not hard to understand why Karl Marx said, or wrote, some of the things he did.

[nolabels]

31. I keeping my stock options open, this brand might be up and coming

http://www.pconline.com/~millcity/condom/condom2.htm

On edit, haven't they been fruitful enough already?

http://encyclopedia.thefreedictionary.com/Population%20timebomb
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* Strategy r-selected : the species has a high reproduction rate, but is very sensible to environmental factors, in particular predation. Therefore, the populations do exceed the carrying capacity. This strategy is typical of insects.
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. In common parlance, the term specifically refers to the relationship of human population to the planet Earth For alternate uses see: Earth (disambiguation).

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Malthus's theory

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, Thomas Malthus

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argued in An Essay on the Principle of Population that, if left unrestricted, human populations would continue to grow until they would become too large to be supported by the available agricultural land. He proposed that that while resources tend to grow geometrically, population grows exponentially. At that point, the population would be restrained through mass famine and starvation. Malthus argued for population control Population control is the practice of curtailing population increase, usually by reducing the birth rate. The practice has sometimes been voluntary, as a response to poverty, or out of religious ideology, but in some times and places it has been government-mandated. This is generally done to try to prevent a believed threat of Malthusian catastrophe, or overpopulation in general.

Given the nature of human reproductive biology, controlling the birth rate generally implies one of the following practices:

* sexual abstinence
* contraception
* sterilization
* abortion
* infanticide
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[daleo]

32. I thought "every sperm is sacred"

Sorry, wrong movie.

[NickB79]

33. "They've started.. the ABC approach" ?!?! Yeah, 18 F**KING YEARS AGO!!!

Last I read, Uganda began the first steps of its ABC program in 1986, a full 18 years ago. It took us 18 years, millions already dead and 45 MILLION currently infected people worldwide to FINALLY figure out that condoms *might* be a good idea to use if you don't want to get AIDS?

C-student my ass. I WISH we had a C-student president right now, that would be moving up in the world.