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NNN0LHI Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-27-04 05:50 AM
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New Iraqi police fight US troops who trained them
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml?xml=/news/2004/06/27/wirq127.xml&sSheet=/news/2004/06/27/ixnewstop.html

With american fighter jets and helicopters buzzing the skies overhead, an officer in Iraq's new police force approaches a group of fighters on Fallujah's front lines with an urgent call to arms.

"I need a man who can use an RPG," says Omar, who wears the uniform of a first lieutenant. Four hands shoot up and a cry rings out: "We are ready." He chooses a young man, Bilal, and they drive to an underpass on the outskirts of the city.

There, on Highway One, an American Humvee is driving east. Bilal aims and fires his rocket propelled grenade, turning the vehicle into a smoking, twisted, metal carcass. The fate of its occupants is unknown.

First Lt Omar is sworn to uphold the law and fight the insurgency that threatens Iraq's evolution into a free and democratic state. Instead, he is exploiting his knowledge of US tactics to help the rebel cause in Fallujah.

"Resistance is stronger when you are working with the occupation forces," he points out. "That way you can learn their weaknesses and attack at that point."

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Swamp Rat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-27-04 05:55 AM
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1. Oshun!
Our girls and boys are in really in trouble over there. Let's bring them home NOW!
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dbt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-27-04 06:03 AM
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2. "Cakewalk into Baghdad," my shiny metal ass.
BTW, anybody heard "stay the course" in the last couple of weeks? What about "bring them to justice?"

:freak:
dbt
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Sirveri Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-27-04 06:42 AM
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3. Well it was a cakewalk on the way in...
In fact I found it downright impressive. Bill's boy's as I like to call them, they did a EXCELLANT job. It's too bad that when they dug that tunnel they failed to keep it from collapsing back upon themselves.
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xchrom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-27-04 10:16 AM
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4. it was a souffle
then somebody slammed the oven door and it fell.
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Eloriel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-27-04 12:14 PM
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8. Yes, and they had some help on the outskirts of Baghdad
You did know, didn't you, that we bribed -- bought off -- the troops outside Baghdad? Remember that unusual delay once we arrived at Baghdad? Several days. Genl Zinni confirmed it at one point. I don't think I have a link anymore, but it's true.

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lfairban Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-27-04 03:02 PM
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12. I have several links.
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donsu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-27-04 10:22 AM
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5. bring all the troops home now - chaos will not insue


let the Iraqi figure out what they want to do. let them handle their own common criminals.

No huge embassy in a green zone

No 14 US military bases - that is obscene
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reprobate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-27-04 01:31 PM
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10. More obscene is the 750 acknowledged bases we have....

....in other peoples countries. And that's just the bases the pentagon admits to. Add in the secret bases and the bases like in england that are still called RAF bases but have only americans bases there, and you come to probably over a thousand.

That's an empire no matter what others call it.

I wonder how many of the really important needs of this country could be implemented if the empire pulled its hornes in just a little?


Another Narfism:

Are you pondering what I'm pondering, George?

Well, I think so Dick. But with all those tax cuts do you think we can afford to buy Micheal Moore?
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psychopomp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-27-04 10:39 AM
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6. Strange to see such reporting in the Telegraph
I would not be surprised to see such journalism from the Guardian. Kimmett must be itchin' to level the place. Wonder how those Kurds are doing these days? Are they still "on board?"
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indepat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-27-04 10:58 AM
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7. This would sound like a comical farce were it not so deadly tragic
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DS1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-27-04 12:22 PM
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9. Do I have to be the first to say DUH!
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frankly_fedup2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-27-04 02:43 PM
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11. In one instance I find this shocking, especially after our soldiers
provided them with the jobs and training that they got paid for. In another instance I'm not surprised at all.

Muslims are not to kill other Muslims. That is in their Koran.

Look how the Saudis tell us one thing, and then turn around and do exactly the opposite.

They can lie to our faces, then as soon as we turn around, saw our heads off.

How does one try to help people with this mentality. Also, how does one fight people with this mentality.

STOP THE INSANITY.
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Mari333 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-27-04 03:24 PM
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13. Bring the troops home now.
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IndianaGreen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-27-04 03:27 PM
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14. Iraqis are fighting for their country
while our troops are fighting for a lie, as we did in Vietnam.

Bring the troops home now and forget all of this bullshit about "staying the course"!
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Jacobin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-27-04 04:08 PM
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15. Who could have anticipated?
Who could have anticipated that an Iraqi trained by an invading force would use that training to help his countrymen eject the invading force when he had the chance?


Anyone? (except the neo-cons, I suppose)
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