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Snazzy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-30-04 04:06 AM
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Texas graduation rate worst in nation, again


Texas graduation rate worst in nation, again
By JASON SPENCER
Copyright 2004 Houston Chronicle

For the second straight year, Texas has the lowest percentage of high school graduates in the nation, according to a U.S. Census Bureau study released Tuesday.

Seventy-seven percent of Texans age 25 and older had a high school degree in 2003, the same percentage as a decade earlier, when Texas ranked 39th in the country. So while other states have seen their graduation rates improve -- a record 85 percent of Americans have high school degrees -- Texas is treading water.

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http://www.chron.com/cs/CDA/ssistory.mpl/topstory/2654323


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hadrons Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-30-04 05:08 AM
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1. this answers a lot of questions ....
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molly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-30-04 08:53 AM
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13. LOL!!!!
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WindRavenX Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-30-04 05:13 AM
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2. This must be the education reform that W was talking about!
...and I'd say it was a great bloomin' success :puke:
Education president my ass...
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struggle4progress Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-30-04 07:32 AM
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6. Oh! It is! It's wonderful! Who needs an education to flip burgers?
Edited on Wed Jun-30-04 07:33 AM by struggle4progress
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NashVegas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-30-04 09:07 AM
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14. Ah, That Texas Miracle
turning out the dead-end wage workers of tomorrow.
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Wink Donating Member (497 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-30-04 05:16 AM
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3. We want to use this as a model for the nation?
Just like the civil rights and environmental standards of Texas? Wouldn't it be wonderful if the entire nation was as wonderful as Texas?
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0007 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-30-04 05:42 AM
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4. .....a product of Ron Paige's Texas educational program
and now Secretary of Education for junior.

Another loser who knows how to 'cook the books.'
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JayS Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-30-04 02:27 PM
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35. Sadly, things have been this way for a long, long time.... n/t
n/t
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izzie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-30-04 06:55 AM
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5. Where can we get the whole list?
Has their ever been a study on unions, church, home schooling, and all that on this? I swear in states that have unions they seem to be better rated and where the right wing nuts are redoing books etc. they seem to be on the low end. But this may be how it fillers through my brain. I would like to see if I am just reading it as I wish to see it.
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JayS Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-30-04 08:39 AM
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10. It would not take much of a study. Lack of money is one big...
...reason. The other is that some cultures here do not value education.
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Solly Mack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-30-04 07:37 AM
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7. "Is our children learning?"
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struggle4progress Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-30-04 09:26 AM
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15. Seldim it is ast.
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Solly Mack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-30-04 10:06 AM
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21. Maybe they should stop putting food on their children
and use books instead...thwap thwap thwap....
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saigon68 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-30-04 11:34 AM
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28. A year ago I cudnt spell gradiate
Now I are One !!!
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DFWJock Donating Member (320 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-30-04 07:48 AM
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8. Clearly,
this is Bill Clinton's fault.
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tlcandie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-30-04 08:27 AM
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9. Florida must be number 6 since we are back to back with this Texas
education policy! They do not want educated teachers to teach the children in Texas...only teachers who are excellent in TAS testing! Forget being prepared for the real world...just get them to pass the TAS test and outta here! :puke:
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Guy Whitey Corngood Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-30-04 08:50 AM
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11. Well, Drinky Mcdumbass said he would do for the country
what he did for Texas. Apparently this is the one time he told the truth.
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bushisanidiot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-30-04 08:53 AM
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12. No Child Left Uneducated Seems to be working like a DREAM!
president dumbass leads by example again..
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AspenRose Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-30-04 09:45 AM
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16. Finally, a list New Mexico isn't at the bottom of
*muahahahahahaha*

Usually it's NM, MS and WV duking it out for the bottom three of ANY positive comparison.

Very interesting.
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kitkatrose Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-30-04 10:15 AM
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23. I'm just glad it's not TN.
We're probably in the bottom 10 though. :(
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denverbill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-30-04 09:51 AM
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17. Yeee-haahh. Look at all them 'red' states.
South Carolina, Alabama, Louisiana, West Virginia, Texas.

Guess that explains Republicans aversion to education.
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AspenRose Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-30-04 09:53 AM
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18. "Fancy Pants Elitist!"
Heh heh heh. ;-)
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Demonaut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-30-04 09:58 AM
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19. is this comparison a bit unfair? Texans aged 25 and older???
shouldnt we be looking at 2003 high school graduates?
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TahitiNut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-30-04 10:09 AM
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22. It probably reflects ...
... the number of people who flock to Texas after escaping the painful experience of high school ... where they'll feel 'normal.' :evilgrin:
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napi21 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-30-04 10:02 AM
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20. I sure don't mean this as a slam, but
I suspect the top 5 states hold that spot at least partly because of their low population. It's a lot easier to have 90% of a small number than say, NY or Cal.

As far as TX & SC.....I've lived in both of those states. Lots of people just don't care about their kids succeding in life. One fellow workir of mine in SC told his 16 son to just damn quit school, he wasn't going to amount to anything anyway, so go get a labor job with the crew don the street. Pretty sad.
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TrogL Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-30-04 11:24 AM
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27. Huh??
It's a lot easier to have 90% of a small number

If we were talking of a small sample like a couple of hundred, I might agree with you. One student either way could throw the percentages off. But we're talking thousands here.

What are you talking about?
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The_Casual_Observer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-30-04 10:31 AM
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24. Ron Paige and chimp what a pair
Ever notice that paige is never willing to do interviews or comment when any bad news comes up? I suppose if he did he would be working 24 hours a day.

Paige/chimp "no child left behind"is simply another bush fraud that didn't work in Texas and has, of course, failed in the grand scale nation wide.
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Fleshdancer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-30-04 10:37 AM
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25. We don't need no education
Edited on Wed Jun-30-04 10:45 AM by GloriaSmith
Well if we Texans are going to be bad at something, then we damn well will be the best at being the worst!!!

on edit: Growing up, I spent my elementary years at a public school in Northeast Austin. My parents decided to move to a different school district because my teachers were sending home notes filled with mispellings and incorrect grammar. The elementary school was put on academic probation as soon as I left.

I entered middle school not knowing how to divide and never learning about sentence structure.

And by the way, the Texas Education Agency's budget was slashed this year by about 40%.
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CO Liberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-30-04 10:38 AM
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26. IQ Goes Down as GOP Registrations Go Up
Right???
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Zynx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-30-04 11:49 AM
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29. Although Wyoming and Alaska were at the top.
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-30-04 12:00 PM
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AspenRose Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-30-04 12:17 PM
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32. Now how do you expect to raise the minority #s in the GOP
with THAT kind of an attitude?

Oh YEAH, you don't WANT them in the GOP! My bad.

'Moran!'
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mbperrin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-30-04 12:18 PM
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33. Why would you think all Hispanics are in the country illegally?
Go back to 1971 for Odessa, Texas, when the district was 98% white, and the graduation rate was 50%, about the same as now. In fact, only half of all Odessans over the age of 22 have a high school diploma, 12% have a bachelor's degree, and 2% have a graduate degree of any kind.

Why? Because for 65 years, the oil industry required only a strong back to work, and poor kids want to make money. (And this is a poor area - wages are 75% of the Texas average, which is only 60% of the national average to begin.)

Poverty, poverty, poverty, combined with an irrelevant regime of oppressive high stakes testing, that's what makes low graduation rates!
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CO Liberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-30-04 01:59 PM
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34. Looks Liike I Missed a Doozy of a Message
Too bad I was in a teleconference......
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xxqqqzme Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-30-04 12:00 PM
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30. there appears 2 B a connection
Edited on Wed Jun-30-04 12:13 PM by rozf
between freezing your ass off 3 months of the year and not.


I know, I know, U can freeze your ass off in WV. I lived there for 10 years. The education system there was horrible. The principal @ the high school, where my 'X' taught, openly encouraged kids 2 drop out if he viewed them as trouble makers or if they had the 'wrong' family name.

We home schooled our kids until we moved.
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MountainLaurel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-30-04 03:39 PM
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36. Let's goooooo Mountaineers!
Looks like we'll have to change the unofficial state motto from "Thank God for Mississippi!" to "Thank God for Texas!"
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One_Life_To_Give Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-30-04 04:20 PM
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37. Not Good
As bad as Texas is. New Hampshire is nothing to be proud of. And we expect these people to cast ballots?
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